The DNC Just Screwed Over Bernie Sanders and Spit in Voters’ Faces - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;49717901]Still something for Sanders supporters to worry about until they do switch over, if they do. As it currently stands, superdelegates are not in their favor and though it's early in the election for anyone, it's still worth a concern.[/QUOTE] its only worth a concern when its too obvious, like NH, hillary should not come away with more delagates than sanders when she lost by 20+ points, those early tallies of primary states do count a bit for a candidate's momentum, but oddly enough our poll-mania actually makes the numbers less and less important when its all about % anymore

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;49718020]Except the GOP hasn't a superdelegate apparatus to skew the results of the party's primaries[/QUOTE] I was more talking about the rumors that the GOP would do a brokered deal with Rubio.

is there any poll of what people in Nevada Think of Sanders/Hilary

So, they took votes that Hillary was lacking from Bernie and gave them an equal share? As in socialism?

[QUOTE=plokoon9619;49716004]And this is why were fucked. If it comes down to Hilary vs Donald, I'll vote Donald, not because I just can't stand Hilary, but because I want the country to go into Anarchy. [/QUOTE] As an anarchist, posts like this drive me up the wall [editline]11th February 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Ridge;49718468]So, they took votes that Hillary was lacking from Bernie and gave them an equal share? As in socialism?[/QUOTE] is this how the soviet union fell

[QUOTE=plokoon9619;49716004]And this is why were fucked. If it comes down to Hilary vs Donald, I'll vote Donald, not because I just can't stand Hilary, but because I want the country to go into Anarchy. Just imagine, a Conservative as president, majority control of the supreme court, and house going into the Republicans. Each part of the government will be controlled by the same Ideology. Homosexuality will be banned and outlawed, Obama care gone, Insurance rates skyrocket, Pharmacy prices go up 3000%, Minimum wage is abolished, unemployment skyrockets to 30% and above, education is restricted to the privileged and wealthy, interest rates go up 40-50% on all loans, riots in the street, middle class families can no longer support themselves to even have a roof, all the government programs such as social security are gone, Corporations gain continued rights and protections, minority genocide occurs, martial law is declared across the country, a revolution is declared and squashed, and through all this happening, we will be born again as a true Christian nation as the son of God intended it to be![/QUOTE] as left as I am, the republicans aren't psychotic barbarians lol As much of a shithead trump is, he at least knows how to shuffle bills. Hilary, who knows, I wouldn't trust her with management of a gas station

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;49717536]Holy fuck. The fact that someone said Hillary would be Obama 2.0 is baffling. Obama isn't corrupt, and if he is, it's relatively nothing compared to Hillary. Dear god I'd take Obama another four years over Hillary (and Sanders). The fearmongering over a Republican victory is childish and absurd. Come out of your basements please.[/QUOTE] It isn't "fearmongering" if you're LGBT, want the right to have an abortion, or rely on Obamacare.

[QUOTE=Billy-Bobfred;49716162]thats uh very edgy and unrealistic of you buddy[/QUOTE] But if it did happen it'd have the opposite effect. Ripping away that much progress would invoke mass resistance (protests, strikes, revolution, whatever), and out of that chaos we would become a hella free country. But, it has to happen to begin with, and I doubt even Trump is dumb enough to try something that big.

and I thought the UK's election process was shit

Oh come on guys, what the fuck. Why do you allow this shit? It's a method of buying elections, established by people who buy elections. Whoever heard of checks and balances? Voters holding their government to account? This is maddening to watch, and I guess it just never appeared before because we've never had such a battle of good vs 'evil' as we're seeing this time.

[QUOTE=ThatSprite;49719273]and I thought the UK's election process was shit[/QUOTE] It's shit, just a different kind of shit. Like comparing dogshit to horseshit.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49715856]Then start a political party.[/QUOTE] This, american politics will stay fucked when there are only two god damn parties that ever get in power. Learn a little from us, plz merica.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;49717319]I have no sympathy for those who don't vote. They have no right to complain about the results as they made no move get someone to that result or not.[/QUOTE] But why would you vote if your vote doesn't matter anyway? American people don't elect shit, the whole system is broken.

[QUOTE=NeverGoWest;49719314]This, american politics will stay fucked when there are only two god damn parties that ever get in power. Learn a little from us, plz merica.[/QUOTE] People have tried, but states have laws that prevent you from getting into the primaries unless you register as a Republican or Democrat (some states, not all), and many states with large voting populations have severely gerrymandered voting districts.

[QUOTE=Buck.;49719481]But why would you vote if your vote doesn't matter anyway? American people don't elect shit, the whole system is broken.[/QUOTE] better to make an unimpactful attempt at change than to wallow in complacency

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;49716011]I'm voting for Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson so I hope I'm at least bringing some tiny, probably insignificant but still there attention to the fledgling Libertarian Party as an option other than Red and Blue.[/QUOTE] The Libertarians give money to the GOP, so you are indirectly still supporting the two party system, thus the status quo. The same goes for the green party.

[QUOTE=Squad1993;49716367]This country will be absolutely [B]FUCKED[/B] if Clinton wins.[/QUOTE] Dude, Bernie's a lot lot better, but it's not like Clinton is a uniquely bad force in US politics. There'd probably be little change from Obama.

[QUOTE=patq911;49716458]NO. STOP. I don't like superdelegates but if bernie wins more pledged delegates they will SWITCH. THEY WILL NOT SWING AN ELECTION, THAT IS SUICIDE.[/QUOTE] This. (Hopefully.) Doing so would piss off their voter base and virtually guarantee a Republican victory in November.

[QUOTE=Rocko's;49716116]God the election process in the US is a joke... I wish Sanders had the capability of going Teddy R in the election and forming his own "Bull Moose Party", but nowadays I'd imagine that'd be impossible.[/QUOTE] Imagine if Bernie won the general election purely through write-ins. :v:

As dumb a thing as super delegates are, their votes are not locked in. They can be changed at any time during the primaries, and the vast majority of them threw their card in with Hillary as the only "serious" candidate ages ago, when Bernie's campaign was still tiny and most people thought it wasn't going to go anywhere. Now there are still serious doubts that Bernie had the momentum to carry this campaign through to the end, IF he does pick up steam and start wining a significant enough number of state delegates, it is highly likely that a number of the super delegates would change their vote. This ain't Hillary's doing either, btw. This just how the DNC does their shit. It is stupid as hell, but it's not like it was Hillary's idea or unique to this election.

[QUOTE=Zero-Point;49719980]Imagine if Bernie won the general election purely through write-ins. :v:[/QUOTE] Votes can go missing you know.

[QUOTE=Jon27;49719301]Oh come on guys, what the fuck. Why do you allow this shit? It's a method of buying elections, established by people who buy elections. Whoever heard of checks and balances? Voters holding their government to account? This is maddening to watch, and I guess it just never appeared before because we've never had such a battle of good vs 'evil' as we're seeing this time.[/QUOTE] oh don't worry, if clinton gets the nomination through these shenanigans the country is gonna be -outraged- people are already outraged about this, the only times a president has actually won through delegates alone were VERY close calls. We'll just have to see how the rest of this goes

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;49720011]As dumb a thing as super delegates are, their votes are not locked in. They can be changed at any time during the primaries, and the vast majority of them threw their card in with Hillary as the only "serious" candidate ages ago, when Bernie's campaign was still tiny and most people thought it wasn't going to go anywhere. Now there are still serious doubts that Bernie had the momentum to carry this campaign through to the end, IF he does pick up steam and start wining a significant enough number of state delegates, it is highly likely that a number of the super delegates would change their vote. This ain't Hillary's doing either, btw. This just how the DNC does their shit. It is stupid as hell, but it's not like it was Hillary's idea or unique to this election.[/QUOTE] Hasn't the DNC been caught proving up hillary on at least 5 occasions?

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;49715919]Again, that's shitty for the country as a whole, though. If the election goes like this: Candidate A - 24% of votes Candidate B - 24% of votes Candidate C - 24% of votes Candidate D - 28% of votes Candidate D will win with 72% of the US not wanting him. On top of that, I'm pretty sure one cannot even legally win the presidency with such a voter rate.[/QUOTE] I think the solution to this would be not just voting for your #1 choice, but also your #2 and #3 choices. That way if lets say it comes to a vote similar to this, it would drop away the lowest polling candidate, and split up those #1 votes to their #2 votes. Keeps breaking it down until just two candidates and everyone has voted for who they would prefer to be president in the correct order. Can't imagine it would be more complicated than the current system we have.

[QUOTE=Reshy;49721101]Hasn't the DNC been caught proving up hillary on at least 5 occasions?[/QUOTE] oh most certainly, the best thing that can be done now is a huge stir is made of it (as there is, and surely will be more of). If sanders gets more support, then the DNC will have no choice but to bow to the popular vote. It'd be suicide to fight a majority opinion on this, Clinton wouldn't stand a single chance if she won through a tired, worthless old system, especially given the new highly vocal demographic of voters.

Whenever I get mad over my nation's political bullshit, I look at America and feel a bit better.

[QUOTE=The bird Man;49721517]Whenever I get mad over my nation's political bullshit, I look at America and feel a bit better.[/QUOTE] oh how so? whats bad about you'rs ?

It seems as if the game is rigged :tinfoil:

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;49718053]The problem with that is that it needs to be both parties, not one or the other because if sanders goes independent the democratic vote will be split and the [B]democrats[/B] will win. Same goes for the republicans. If Trump goes independents then the republican vote will be split and the democrats will win.[/QUOTE] So Democrats win no matter what?

[QUOTE=plokoon9619;49721603]So Democrats win no matter what?[/QUOTE] We're fucked if Hillary wins.