• Thanks For Screwing The PC Over
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[QUOTE=Silly Sil;26400858]Wait, it's a good thing that we're getting the half-assed console ports? How?[/QUOTE] Totally misreading the article.
the pc gaming industry needs the next doom something that will stop all developers and publishers right in their track and create the next generation i feel we're still kind of stuck in that post-half-life age
I'm hoping ID pulls through with Rage and restarts the Doom/Quake Era of gaming.
doom 3 made me think id lost that drive
[QUOTE=thisispain;26400984]the pc gaming industry needs the next doom something that will stop all developers and publishers right in their track and create the next generation i feel we're still kind of stuck in that post-half-life age[/QUOTE] That is really, [i]really[/i] hard to do in this day and age. Doom was a technological marvel back in the day and introduced a genre that didn't previously exist. The last game that tried to even be as close to Doom in the past five years was Crysis, and it practically scared all publishers and developers [i]away[/i] from the platform because of the graphical arms race it created.
[QUOTE=Banned?;26401113]The last game that tried to even be as close to Doom in the past five years was Crysis[/QUOTE] not really crysis didn't spawn dozens of knock offs halo did
[QUOTE=thisispain;26401139]not really crysis didn't spawn dozens of knock offs halo did[/QUOTE] I meant more as something that tried to be the next technological marvel of gaming. Point taken tho.
[QUOTE=Banned?;26400901]Totally misreading the article.[/QUOTE] How so? He said it's good that they are focusing on consoles because that stops the hardware rush. So I am asking. How's that a good thing that we're getting half-assed console ports?
I don't think the console market will ever die. Too many people rely on it and it is quite a large income for studios to develop on. Despite what technical marvels the PC can handle, that's not in their interest. Their interest is $$$. I do find it refreshing that the PC is however being treated to an entirely new market. I don't think PC gaming will ever die but instead evolve. We all love PC gaming for different reasons. Some of us are modders, others are hardware enthusiasts, some just grew up on PC's and found no reason to switch. Either way we are a community. No different then the console community. We just get treated to a different taste of gaming. Ours is a bit more varied. Good or bad is taken on whoever is playing. Consoles are limiting game developers though. That is something that no one can deny. If we had all gamers united on a single system capable of the PC's marvels then I believe our gaming experience would be skipped ahead a few years. The thing about computers is that a lot of people don't wanna get involved. They see the differences and try to deny them for the simple reason that they have no idea how to build one and all the ones they see are overpriced 2000$ machines. Consoles can play any game made for them at around 200$. PC's can be cheaper and an investment beyond gaming but people don't really go into that technological aspect when gaming. [editline]30th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Banned?;26401113]That is really, [i]really[/i] hard to do in this day and age. Doom was a technological marvel back in the day and introduced a genre that didn't previously exist. The last game that tried to even be as close to Doom in the past five years was Crysis, and it practically scared all publishers and developers [i]away[/i] from the platform because of the graphical arms race it created.[/QUOTE] Yeah I have to agree with that. We need something new that is revolutionary in terms of gameplay, not graphics. Think about it. Did Crysis really introduce new gameplay features? We had the nanosuit but that's argueably basic superpowers that half the games released eventually have. Graphics don't equal out to a fun game. Tetris is a timeless classic and it's fun as shit, basic detail though. Just shapes. Nothing fancy needed. A "modern day Doom" is indeed what the PC needs. It's what all gamers need though. Something to make everyone stop and think for a bit. Something to break the tradition of regen health and basic gameplay mechanics that CoD has adapted everyone to. I just think it'll be harder since Doom introduced to us the fundamental gameplay aspects. We have that stuffed nailed down now. All that is to come would be improvements and adjustments to the base. It is like teaching someone how to make a ham and cheese sandwich. Doom gave us the ham and cheese. That is the key components. All that we can see in the future will be mayo, lettuce, pickle, toppings to the recipe. That's why it won't be as revolutionary. It's just impossible. (Crap analogy right?)
People forget that the consoles with their unifications, straight and set development tools and requirements are MUCH easier to develop for than PC. This way the developers can concentrate on the GAME rather than on "will it run with graphics card XX and processor XXX". That's a huge advantage. As an artist you don't want to bother whether your pen works or not, you want to draw straight away. And that's why the console don't limit games in my opinion. That's what's good about them. A console may limit the graphics, I give you that. But I don't see how it limits a game in ideas, gameplay and complexity.
I wonder how long my GTX 275 will last. It's a bitch when you have to upgrade
[QUOTE=gazzy_GUI;26387703]I doubt consoles can go until 2015, they are already outdated massively.[/QUOTE] Another 300-600 $ for the next console, while PC the same as it is. Just few upgrades here and there, not a completely new built for the next gen. :v: That the downfall from consoles, they'll just keep making more bullshit up.
[QUOTE=Agent Cobra;26387262]I've got a 9800 GT, and am still loving it now :buddy:[/QUOTE] I've got this as well, it's one hell of a card and can run any game I want to on High.
[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;26392641]i dont have to blow a disk to get it to work[/QUOTE] You don't have to clean scratches/dirt off a cartridge either.
I'm more sad that most games get ported from console to PC, wich limits the PC to the graphics of the console. Recent example: CoD: Black Ops The reason it all the problems with pc was in the beginning was that it was designed for quad cores, and a lot of people still use dual cores (like myself) wich blackops coudn't handle. Talk about a bad port.
Something surely needs to be made that would redefine gaming, but that's a really hard task
I read the title expecting a big-ass rant on how pirating destroyed PC gaming. I was pleasantly surprised to say the least.
[QUOTE=ADT;26390535]Differents ways to counter piracy on PC games: -Cheap price (40$/€ max. for example) -Good support (Patches, Updates, FAQ, etc...) -No bullshit 3rd-program DRM (Steam is fine, although a Non-Steam version is still a good alternative) A lot of game developers seem to forget that easily. Too bad for them.[/QUOTE] You're forgetting that a lot of people are dicks and just go "LOOK! FREE SHIT! MINE!". Look at the Humble Indie Bundle for example, you could pay however much you wanted down to a fucking cent, it had no DRM and the support for the titles included has been fantastic. Not only did people pirate the humble indie bundle, but they actually used an exploit to download it for free right off the website, costing the developers money. On another note, I think the reason the PC is sort of being abandoned to do its own thing is because developers simply can't be fucked to navigate that particular minefield. Every console has the same set of hardware, the only difference lies in what monitors people choose to play it on, which doesn't really impact development outside of the maximum resolution the game has to look good on.
This article is kinda dumb while also being true. Crysis 2 will be another graphics landmark whether he likes it or not. It's not like they're porting it from the console...
[QUOTE=Hypernova;26386666]There's a certain charm about PCs that will never diminish for me: The way you have so much control over them, the way you can customize them. I don't think I personally could ever fully move onto console gaming. It's just so... bland.[/QUOTE] This is one important thing to consider when comparing PC vs consoles.
[QUOTE=Bullet100;26408351]This is one important thing to consider when comparing PC vs consoles.[/QUOTE] Console games feel so horribly dumbed down for me, PC will always be ontop for me. Regardless of how many are sitting on their console
[QUOTE=gk99;26386755][img_thumb]http://static.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/img_thumb] [editline]29th November 2010[/editline] Mine's lasted 4 years.[/QUOTE] My previous PC lasted 7 years. [editline]30th November 2010[/editline] Oh, and it's still working, almost 9 years then.
My 4870 sounds like a jet turbine after all the use and I bet I will still be running games on max for the next 2 years with it. [editline]30th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Bullet100;26408351]This is one important thing to consider when comparing PC vs consoles.[/QUOTE] PC's are like Supercars, but with that Tuner edge and style to it. Classy and brilliant, but also incredibly powerful with the ability to upgrade.
I have a Nvidia 8800GT from late 2007 in my PC and it's still working like a charm, running games on med high graphics even still and i'm not planning on upgrading yet. The only thing i've upgraded is my HDD from a 230GB to 1TB fast Western digital. Nuff said my pc is 3 years old and i don't feel out of league with the current games. I can run MW2 on full resolution and graphic settings without lag.
[QUOTE=Elstumpo;26391575]I think its because disks can hold more.[/QUOTE] Cartridges are expensive.
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I really only play PC games because of modding applications. Plus, most PC have free online, not the shitty MMORPGs either. If consoles ever allow to modify files, or make your own stuff and use it with your favorite FPS game, than sure, I'd get a console.
[QUOTE=WebOfTrust;26404849]You don't have to clean scratches/dirt off a cartridge either.[/QUOTE] you could try taking care of your discs
The main reason I love using my pc is because of the god damn mouse and keyboard.
I don't see why this is a good thing. It's just pointing out (again) that consoles are bottlenecking game quality/development. I don't want to just be content with indie games for the next five years or whatever until the next generation of consoles come out, sorry. What I'd rather see is a change in the range of available graphical settings with higher maximums so that there's something prettier and more challenging for better systems. Devs don't have to shut out users of older computers, they just have to give benefit to users of newer builds.
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