Special nail polish may help detect date-rape drugs - Polidicks

[QUOTE=NiandraLades;45825761]Much appreciated; both are pretty interesting although somewhat disheartening reads. I understand this perfectly fine and victim-blaming is something that needs to be stopped, I can't say I agree at all that it suggests otherwise. Apologies if my tone was a tad sneery![/QUOTE] Apologies for not posting a source first.

[QUOTE=Snickerdoodle;45825681]I did not state that the majority of feminists think this, but [URL="http://www.newsweek.com/controversy-over-nail-varnish-date-rape-drug-detector-267126"]here[/URL] and [URL="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/27/activists-argue-drug-detecting-nail-polish-promote/"]here[/URL] is an example of what you requested.[/QUOTE] Jesus, some people have huge victim complexes. When I was learning to drive my dad always taught me to assume that everybody else on the road is not only a moron (which they do seem to be unfortunately), but that they were actively out to get you. It's a lesson that pays off; even when you have the right of way, be cautious. Taking adequate countermeasures against people being idiots, or worse, malevolent is [I]NOT[/I] the same as conceding that you're at fault for some reason. What the hell?

[QUOTE=Snickerdoodle;45825755]Also I searched up "nail polish rape" into Tumblr's search tool and [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/k596PVC.png[/IMG][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/HE4TVDe.png[/IMG][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/NtX4x2q.png[/IMG][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/VrBPqif.png[/IMG] these are all on the first page.[/QUOTE] People like that are just counter productive and make it worse for others. Yeah shit sucks, we get it. In the mean time do something to protect yourself. Here you get a great invention to do it and you're mad about it? Fucking really? Tumblr feminism is one big joke that only endangers women more.

If I was a chick and used this and found out my drink was spiked, I would switch drinks with the douchebag when he isn't looking.

[QUOTE=itisjuly;45825822]Tumblr feminism is one big joke that only endangers women more.[/QUOTE] We should stop referring to this type of feminism as tumblr feminism. It misleads people into thinking that this type of thinking is limited to tumblr. People like this are pretty common.

For this we have a law in germany that forces the manufactures to mix rohypnol with a blue substance so if someone spikes your drink with it you'd notice the blue color of your drink. Don't know if it's the same with Xanax and the other type which was mentioned in the article. Why not do something like this for every rape date drug?

Does it glow in the dark

[QUOTE=AntonioR;45825450]It freaks me out that there is even a need for something like this.[/QUOTE] Does it also freak you out that your house has a lock, your car has an alarm? People will always try to do bad things. You can't stop people from being bad humans, but you can at least try to create preventatives that will prevent the crime from happening. Humans will always be pieces of shit. I'd love for date rape to just _not exist_ but that isn't happening any time soon.

"Teaching males not to rape" as if it's totally normal behavior. How delusional can you be?

[QUOTE=NoDachiUK;45825480]Honestly, if someone did that to you - perhaps you should question the impression you give women.[/QUOTE] Perhaps I shouldn't be assumed to be a rapist.

[QUOTE=FalconKrunch;45825928]"Teaching males not to rape" as if it's totally normal behavior. How delusional can you be?[/QUOTE] It's not like you even really [I]can[/I] do that. The most you can do is teach what proper consent is, and that putting drugs in people's drinks is bad. That's not going to stop some asswipe from raping someone.

[QUOTE=NoDachiUK;45825480]Honestly, if someone did that to you - perhaps you should question the impression you give women.[/QUOTE] Or women are being a bit too paranoid. However, this has very, very little effect. She dips her finger in a drink. If it comes clean, there's no big commotion. No big deal at all. Simple process that doesn't take away much from your experience.

[QUOTE=Aphtonites;45825521]I'll seriously never understand the mental gymnastics that are used to come up with logic like that. [/QUOTE] I can, because some people have taken the idea of victim blaming to such an extreme that they consider safety precautions to be implicit victim blaming. I've seen it even here on Facepunch quite a bit- when a comment as straightforward as 'you shouldn't walk home late at night alone through a bad part of town' gets labeled victim-blaming, they're basically saying a person has no responsibility in avoiding becoming a victim. A product allowing women to take a proactive measure for their own safety is implicitly giving them some responsibility, and so some see that as victim-blaming. By discouraging active prevention and saying 'just teach men not to rape', they're ironically disempowering women and encouraging them to be helpless victims. If we treated any other issue this way it would be ridiculous- 'don't teach your children not to take candy from strangers, that's victim blaming', or 'don't lock your doors at night, that's victim blaming'. In a perfect world, we would be able to stop people from becoming pedophiles or burglars or rapists in the first place and nobody would have to take these precautions, but unfortunately that isn't the real world and people need to be proactive about their own safety as long as the threat is there. Anything that makes that easier for women so they can just live instead of being paranoid about safety is a good thing in my book.

[QUOTE=Mr. Jelly;45825961]It's not like you even really [I]can[/I] do that. The most you can do is teach what proper consent is, and that putting drugs in people's drinks is bad. That's not going to stop some asswipe from raping someone.[/QUOTE] It's the same as every crime. I dare you to tell me that the idea that "murder is bad, don't do it" isn't drilled into the mind of every person in normal society. And yet, its still a crime you hear about often. People don't say "teach people not to kill," because, no shit, that step's been done. There are still going to be a few screw balls who do it. Replace murder with rape, and suddenly, nothing is good enough unless we reach utopian levels of crime.

[QUOTE=catbarf;45825994]I can, because some people have taken the idea of victim blaming to such an extreme that they consider safety precautions to be implicit victim blaming. I've seen it even here on Facepunch quite a bit- when a comment as straightforward as 'you shouldn't walk home late at night alone through a bad part of town' gets labeled victim-blaming, they're basically saying a person has no responsibility in avoiding becoming a victim. A product allowing women to take a proactive measure for their own safety is implicitly giving them some responsibility, and so some see that as victim-blaming. By discouraging active prevention and saying 'just teach men not to rape', they're ironically disempowering women and encouraging them to be helpless victims. If we treated any other issue this way it would be ridiculous- 'don't teach your children not to take candy from strangers, that's victim blaming', or 'don't lock your doors at night, that's victim blaming'. In a perfect world, we would be able to stop people from becoming pedophiles or burglars or rapists in the first place and nobody would have to take these precautions, but unfortunately that isn't the real world and people need to be proactive about their own safety as long as the threat is there. Anything that makes that easier for women so they can just live instead of being paranoid about safety is a good thing in my book.[/QUOTE] I think it's all about responsibility. Protecting yourself is taking some responsibility into your own hands. Telling someone else to tell men not to rape shifts that responsibility onto someone else. They don't want responsibility, they want everything handed to them.

You guys love to complain about feminists but you decide to pre-emptively shit on them and say dumb things which is only going to guarantee a confrontation. I dont get it. Its a good invention. The problem feminists have is that its a [I]reactive[/I] solution instead of a [I]proactive[/I] solution. It only helps treat the symptoms of sexual assault instead of the cause. More efforts should be focused on educating people about how our cultural attitudes harm women and lessen the severity of sexual assault.

I think they are doing a great thing. Don't know what everyone is complaining about.

Its not like the rapist doesn't know rape is bad, he is fully aware of the harm he's doing but that's not stopping him. Educating them is pointless.

[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyGunz;45826205]You guys love to complain about feminists but you decide to pre-emptively shit on them and say dumb things which is only going to guarantee a confrontation. I dont get it. Its a good invention. The problem feminists have is that its a [I]reactive[/I] solution instead of a [I]proactive[/I] solution. It only helps treat the symptoms of sexual assault instead of the cause. More efforts should be focused on educating people about how our cultural attitudes harm women and lessen the severity of sexual assault.[/QUOTE] You pretty much just said "teach men not to rape" in a bit longer sentence and smarter wording.

[QUOTE=Covalent;45826247]I think they are doing a great thing. Don't know what everyone is complaining about.[/QUOTE] It seems to be lost on a lot of people that, in the world's current state, responsibility for crime prevention goes both ways

Nail me, if you dare~

[QUOTE=NiandraLades;45825589]Do you have any actual evidence that feminists are saying this and it is the majority who is doing so? Because even Tumblr has been saying this is fantastic and a good thing. So if they, who are often thought of as problematic and discredited, think it's good, I'm wondering what sort of source IS saying it's bad and why it should be acknowledged.[/QUOTE] There is a telegraph writer who went off the fucking deep end about this. If that helps. Her entire article is a load of shit that even Tumblr couldn't match.

[QUOTE=Hanso;45825891]If I was a chick and used this and found out my drink was spiked, I would switch drinks with the douchebag when he isn't looking.[/QUOTE] And then they're both spiked.

Everyone always says "Teach men not to rape" but no one ever gives even the slightest hint as to how.

dont suggest anyone try and defend themselves from rape. That's victim blaming and sexist. It's not women's fault that men rape

[QUOTE=A_Pigeon;45826662]dont suggest anyone try and defend themselves from rape. That's victim blaming and sexist. It's not women's fault that men rape[/QUOTE] It's not your fault your house gets broken in to, but you still put a lock on your door.

[QUOTE=NiandraLades;45825589]Do you have any actual evidence that feminists are saying this and it is the majority who is doing so? Because even Tumblr has been saying this is fantastic and a good thing. So if they, who are often thought of as problematic and discredited, think it's good, I'm wondering what sort of source IS saying it's bad and why it should be acknowledged.[/QUOTE] Spend five minutes in Imgur usersub and you'll see it clear as day.

[QUOTE=Hanso;45825891]If I was a chick and used this and found out my drink was spiked, I would switch drinks with the douchebag when he isn't looking.[/QUOTE] Well, you can still become gay/transsexual and do that. I'll wait results.

Man, I bet there'll be situation where one of these doesn't work and someone gets raped, than a lawsuit will ensue.

[QUOTE=FalconKrunch;45826672]It's not your fault your house gets broken in to, but you still put a lock on your door.[/QUOTE] that was sarcastic? [editline]28th August 2014[/editline] are we really at a point where a post like that can be taken seriously?