Thousands Expected to Attend Earth’s Largest Pro-Marijuana Law Reform Rally in Seattle - Polidicks

Lets haze shit up!

[QUOTE=lavacano;37301989]That was my problem at first too, but then I figured "well the only reason cigarettes are at 18 is because you can't get high off tobacco"[/QUOTE] What? Yes you can, why do you think people smoke it tobacco? It's a stimulant.

It's funny how something that has such a widespread culture is illegal.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;37313534]Except marijuana is a naturally occurring plant that requires almost no processing to use. It's like putting a 25% tax on a tomato. It's stupid and immoral.[/QUOTE] If only tomatoes were hallucinogens, then you might have a valid point here, eh?

[QUOTE=Ardosos;37316836]If only tomatoes were hallucinogens, then you might have a valid point here, eh?[/QUOTE] Marijuana isn't a hallucinogen either...

[QUOTE=yawmwen;37316843]Marijuana isn't a hallucinogen either...[/QUOTE] 'if only tomatoes had hallucinogenic properties' There, happy?

[QUOTE=Ardosos;37316868]'if only tomatoes had hallucinogenic properties' There, happy?[/QUOTE] What about coffee beans(stimulant), nutmeg(anticholinergic), and datura(hallucinogen), which are all legal and don't have a 25% sales tax associated with them? [editline]19th August 2012[/editline] Oh yea, I forgot about Salvia, which is also completely unregulated and is a hallucinogen as well.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;37316957]What about coffee beans(stimulant), nutmeg(anticholinergic), and datura(hallucinogen), which are all legal and don't have a 25% sales tax associated with them? [editline]19th August 2012[/editline] Oh yea, I forgot about Salvia, which is also completely unregulated and is a hallucinogen as well.[/QUOTE] All of the examples you mentioned are either already too shoe-horned into our economy to have their removal feasible, have negligible effects compared to cannabis, or are pending legal review.

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[QUOTE=Ardosos;37317033]All of the examples you mentioned are either already too shoe-horned into our economy to have their removal feasible, have negligible effects compared to cannabis, or are pending legal review.[/QUOTE] None of those drugs have negligible effects compared to marijuana. In fact, all those drugs(salvia excluded) are WAY more dangerous than marijuana.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;37317057]None of those drugs have negligible effects compared to marijuana. In fact, all those drugs(salvia excluded) are WAY more dangerous than marijuana.[/QUOTE] Salvia was what I meant when I said negligible effects, coffee is already way too shoehorned into our economy to have removal feasible, think all of the already existing companies like starbucks that would go out of business, not to mention a sudden removal of coffee would create a huge market for other, potentially dangerous and unregulated substances. [editline]e[/editline] In addition, caffeine and cannabis have very different effects, and what can be seen as harmful or beneficial can be subjective and is almost always politically charged. [editline]e[/editline] Also, "we should legalize this because other things worse/just as bad/slightly better/ than it are legal"? What kind of logic is that?

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[QUOTE=Ardosos;37317090]Salvia was what I meant when I said negligible effects, coffee is already way too shoehorned into our economy to have removal feasible, think all of the already existing companies like starbucks that would go out of business, not to mention a sudden removal of coffee would create a huge market for other, potentially dangerous and unregulated substances.[/quote] Nobody ever said anything about removing caffeine, where did you get that from? [QUOTE=Ardosos;37317090]Also, "we should legalize this because other things worse/just as bad/slightly better/ than it are legal"? What kind of logic is that?[/QUOTE] More like "we should legalise this because the things that ARE more harmful (and unregulated) have negligible effects".

[QUOTE=BoysLightUp;37312066]what happens when gangs undercut legal sales with cheaper, more dangerous products (because any legalised drug system would require stringent quality control (i.e. no bleach in the meth) which costs more)? addicted junkies will buy that instead; result: gangs continue on drug profits![/QUOTE] Yeah have fun under cutting legally grown stuff that [i]will[/i] undoubtedly hit you like a freight train, yeah I'm sure everyone will be desperate to go back to paying the cartels and shit for brick weed.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;37317057]None of those drugs have negligible effects compared to marijuana. In fact, all those drugs(salvia excluded) are WAY more dangerous than marijuana.[/QUOTE] Tell me you're not saying coffee is going to harm someone like a drug it has caffine in it boo fucking hoo that's going to harm so many innocent people omg caffee shud be banned!!!1!11 :downs:

[QUOTE=Morris Vander;37318810]Tell me you're not saying coffee is going to harm someone like a drug it has caffine in it boo fucking hoo that's going to harm so many innocent people omg caffee shud be banned!!!1!11 :downs:[/QUOTE] You know that coffee is pretty addictive right, and you actually get physically ill from caffeine withdrawal: [quote]Caffeine addiction leads to some levels of physical dependence. The most frequently seen withdrawal symptoms are headache and fatigue. Such symptoms affect consumers’ mood, but show no evidence of influencing ones’ performance. In prolonged caffeine drinkers, symptoms such as increased depression and anxiety, nausea, vomiting, physical pains and intense desire for caffeine containing beverages are also reported. The symptoms reflect consumers’ expectancy effects on caffeine to some degree.[10]. Withdrawal symptoms – including headache, irritability, inability to concentrate, drowsiness, insomnia, and pain in the stomach, upper body, and joints – may appear within 12 to 24 hours after discontinuation of caffeine intake, peak at roughly 48 hours, and usually last from 2 to 9 days.[66] Peer knowledge, support and interaction may aid withdrawal.[/quote] Source: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_effects_of_caffeine#Toxicity_and_intoxication[/url]

[QUOTE=Ardosos;37317090] Also, "we should legalize this because other things worse/just as bad/slightly better/ than it are legal"? What kind of logic is that?[/QUOTE] It's consistent logic. We shouldn't ban something harmless and then leave incredibly harmful stuff legal. I mean IMO every drug should be legal as long as people are warned of harmful effects, but it's wholly inconsistent to leave harmless drugs illegal and harmful drugs legal.

[QUOTE=Ardosos;37317090]Salvia was what I meant when I said negligible effects, coffee is already way too shoehorned into our economy to have removal feasible, think all of the already existing companies like starbucks that would go out of business, not to mention a sudden removal of coffee would create a huge market for other, potentially dangerous and unregulated substances. [editline]e[/editline] In addition, caffeine and cannabis have very different effects, and what can be seen as harmful or beneficial can be subjective and is almost always politically charged. [editline]e[/editline] Also, "we should legalize this because other things worse/just as bad/slightly better/ than it are legal"? What kind of logic is that?[/QUOTE] Seems like a pretty good logic to me

[QUOTE=Ardosos;37317090]Salvia was what I meant when I said negligible effects, coffee is already way too shoehorned into our economy to have removal feasible, think all of the already existing companies like starbucks that would go out of business, not to mention a sudden removal of coffee would create a huge market for other, potentially dangerous and unregulated substances. [editline]e[/editline] In addition, caffeine and cannabis have very different effects, and what can be seen as harmful or beneficial can be subjective and is almost always politically charged. [editline]e[/editline] Also, "we should legalize this because other things worse/just as bad/slightly better/ than it are legal"? What kind of logic is that?[/QUOTE] What do you mean salviaas neglible effects? that stuff makes you trip balls

[QUOTE=Stormcharger;37324647]What do you mean salviaas neglible effects? that stuff makes you trip balls[/QUOTE] Really? Everyone I've talked to about it said it was still legal because it doesn't actually contain enough THC to get you high?

[QUOTE=Ardosos;37328522]Really? Everyone I've talked to about it said it was still legal because it doesn't actually contain enough THC to get you high?[/QUOTE] What? They're all retarded, that shit is a powerful hallucinogenic and if you aren't aware of what you're discussing you should really stop.

[QUOTE=Ardosos;37328522]Really? Everyone I've talked to about it said it was still legal because it doesn't actually contain enough THC to get you high?[/QUOTE] Dude, THC isn't even in Salvia. THC is in cannabis, a completely different drug. Also, it makes you trip really fucking hard. Do some research. [editline]20th August 2012[/editline] Seriously, what the fuck

[QUOTE=soccerskyman;37328886]Dude, THC isn't even in Salvia. THC is in cannabis, a completely different drug. Also, it makes you trip really fucking hard. Do some research. [editline]20th August 2012[/editline] Seriously, what the fuck[/QUOTE] Well in my defense, "none" is in fact an amount that is not enough to get one high.

I'm not sure what motivates you to talk about something you haven't got a clue about. [editline]20th August 2012[/editline] Wait do you think THC is in every drug or something and it's the only reason a high occurs? [editline]20th August 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Ardosos;37328912]Well in my defense, "none" is in fact an amount that is not enough to get one high.[/QUOTE] Are you actually saying that Salvia doesn't get you high because it doesn't have THC in it?

[QUOTE=Andokool12;37329115]I'm not sure what motivates you to talk about something you haven't got a clue about. [editline]20th August 2012[/editline] Wait do you think THC is in every drug or something and it's the only reason a high occurs?[/QUOTE] Hopefully he's smarter than that, otherwise he would need to explain how every drug has unique effects despite the active molecule being THC :v:

[QUOTE=Andokool12;37329115]I'm not sure what motivates you to talk about something you haven't got a clue about. [editline]20th August 2012[/editline] Wait do you think THC is in every drug or something and it's the only reason a high occurs? Are you actually saying that Salvia doesn't get you high because it doesn't have THC in it?[/QUOTE] That's what people told me about salvia, I'm just amazed that school, law enforcement officials, acutal drug users, and people from this very forum would all misinform me, and with the same misinformation, no less. So clearly I am ignorant on the subject of salvia, where would be a valid place to get informed? Every source I find is biased due to various political ties.

[QUOTE=Ardosos;37329219]That's what people told me about salvia, I'm just amazed that school, law enforcement officials, acutal drug users, and people from this very forum would all misinform me, and with the same misinformation, no less. So clearly I am ignorant on the subject of salvia, where would be a valid place to get informed? Every source I find is biased due to various political ties.[/QUOTE] Pretty much all you need to know is that those people who told you that is was all about THC need to be slapped with a biology textbook, I don't have any sources specifically for Salvia, but you could try Erowid.

[QUOTE=soccerskyman;37328886]Dude, THC isn't even in Salvia. THC is in cannabis, a completely different drug. Also, it makes you trip really fucking hard. Do some research. [editline]20th August 2012[/editline] Seriously, what the fuck[/QUOTE] I don't think salvia has any serious long term health repercussions, though. That's why [i]I[/i] said it has a negligible effect, although comparable to cannabis. I'm not talking about high, just dangers. [QUOTE=Ardosos;37329219]That's what people told me about salvia, I'm just amazed that school, law enforcement officials, acutal drug users, and people from this very forum would all misinform me, and with the same misinformation, no less. So clearly I am ignorant on the subject of salvia, where would be a valid place to get informed? Every source I find is biased due to various political ties.[/QUOTE] THC is the MAIN active ingredient in Cannabis. It's the psychoactive that gets you high, although other cannaboids also influence the high you get. Salvia's main active component is Salvinorim A, which differs greatly in effect from THC. [editline]20th August 2012[/editline] Also, if you are ever told anything about ANY drug. Double check on both Wikipedia AND Erowid. Erowid gives a more "layman's" explanation of the drug, while Wikipedia will give a slightly more technical explanation. [editline]20th August 2012[/editline] And both have the possibility to be wrong.

If they did, it would have to being with a year long campaign teaching teenagers and "gangstas" about abuse and everything, and educate. Oh, and have a limit like Czech Republic and Portugal

[QUOTE=BadDrum;37330115]If they did, it would have to being with a year long campaign teaching teenagers and "gangstas" about abuse and everything, and educate. Oh, and have a limit like Czech Republic and Portugal[/QUOTE] Why would you limit how much someone can buy? If it's a legal substance then there's no reason to limit it whatsoever.