• Hillary Clinton's shortlist for VP candidates leaked - includes Bill Gates and Bernie Sanders
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[QUOTE=srobins;51222371]I think.. I think I have some bad news for you[/QUOTE] A corpse would be better than any of our current candidates.
[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;51222486]A corpse would be better than any of our current candidates.[/QUOTE] Holy fuck stop posting this garbage in every thread, if you don't want to get involved in this election that's your prerogative but we don't need everyone shitting up every thread with this. YES neither viable winner is perfect, but this is such a childish and apathetic mentality that is detrimental to our democracy.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;51222462]Sanders endorsed Clinton out of his own volition[/QUOTE] Did you even notice how disappointed he looked during the DNC? He's whipped.
[QUOTE=Sableye;51222347]the mayor of NYC is pretty much a governor by default, its not like he wouldn't be qualified, though remember the VP just basically has 2 jobs, to sit around being alive, and to announce the president once a year, with occasionally being allowed to sit in the senate if they promise to be extra quiet[/QUOTE] Occasionally? President of the Senate is the VPs entire job. In fact, that's his ONLY job. He gets to cast a tie breaking vote.
[QUOTE=Blizzerd;51222477]In practice and bills they got in, they directly oppose each other. On what they say they lean a bit into the same direction in opposition to trump but its not like they are nearly the same politician.[/QUOTE] In practice and bills? They voted the same way [B]93%[/B] of the time while senators. Is that [i]seven percent[/i] of difference between their voting records more than the difference between Trump and Sanders? Really? How the fuck can you believe that?
[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;51222440]Clinton is the antithesis of what Sanders stands for[/QUOTE] And yet most of her policies are Bernie's policies from primaries.
[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;51222511]Did you even notice how disappointed he looked during the DNC? He's whipped.[/QUOTE] Because someone who's whipped and controlled by the DNC quits the party immediately after the convention, right?
[quote]Michael Bloomberg[/quote] I'd go Oswald mode if this ever came true. Fuck Cuntberg, and fuck his antics on NY as a whole.
[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;51222547]Yes, him leaving the party after the DNC just further symbolized how he doesn't want to be involved with the Clinton campaign or the Democrat corruption anymore[/QUOTE] It really just showed he was returning to where he always was from. As it is, Bernie's smarter than you think. Staying in the organization means he can get his work done, as they've already retooled their policies for his policies. That's the best course of action for him. Not acting like a whiny brat when he doesn't get his way. He knows there's still work to be done.
[QUOTE=ccg;51222399]Didn't you hear Jobs is currently kicking it with Tupac and Biggie smoking mad weed?[/QUOTE] So they're all hanging out in serbia? How cool is that? [video=youtube;dkqTM4K68ME]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkqTM4K68ME[/video]
[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;51222547]Yes, him leaving the party after the DNC just further symbolized how he doesn't want to be involved with the Clinton campaign or the Democrat corruption anymore[/QUOTE] And that's why he spent months working with the DNC Platform Draft Committee to get his ideas cemented into the Democratic Party? That's why he made a pretty glowing endorsement of her (combo'd with a strong denouncement of Trump)? The delusional mind-bending idiocy it takes to think Sanders hates Clinton so much he'd rather have Trump be president is impressive. It's shoving your head up your ass, back out your mouth, back into your ass, repeated six times over. There's literally nothing stupider when you can read, in plain text, Sanders' repeated condemnations of Trump and his reluctant approval of Clinton. Is it ideal? Obviously not, he was running against her. Does it mean he supports Trump? Only if you lobotomized yourself with a tire iron when you were three.
[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;51222595]?? You're delusional if you think Sanders would favour Hillary over Trump in any universe, but neither represents what Sen. Sanders originally proposed Also besides the theatrics on the stage this isn't the face of a man who "glowingly endorsed" hillary [/quote] Honestly, you're the only one here seeming delusional to me. Trump plans to reduce the taxes for the upper class. [video] [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgicDQHbV3M[/url][/video] Trump's plan is as far away from [B]anything[/B] Bernie would ever support. Trump's campaigns Deputy manager is David Bossie. The president of Citizens United, the group that sued, and caused the Citizens United ruling. You really think Bernie would stand for that? Or are you just, as I presume, talking out your ass? Yeah, Bernie was no doubt upset. Do you think adults don't get over their emotions and remember their long term goals and get back to the job? He's got work to do, he's got a goal, and a road to go down before he gets there and he knows he has to work. He's clearly doing the thing that will allow him to do this. You're the delusional one if you think anything about Trumps policy, or mindset, or ego, or attitude, or anything about that fucking orange piece of shit is admirable to him.
[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;51222511]Did you even notice how disappointed he looked during the DNC? He's whipped.[/QUOTE] I imagine he looked disappointed because of not being able to win for his supporters. It was insane how much applause he got when he stepped out to speak at the convention. If I were him, I would've been honored but depressed for not being able to land the nomination for those people.
[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;51222595]?? You're delusional if you think Sanders would favour Hillary over Trump in any universe, but neither represents what Sen. Sanders originally proposed Also besides the theatrics on the stage this isn't the face of a man who "glowingly endorsed" hillary [IMG]https://media.giphy.com/media/l0HlxtmFWEkvOVrS8/giphy-facebook_s.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] holy hell that's a misrepresentation You realize that picture was taken when his brother, a delegate, was giving him glowing praise on-stage. He was crying because his brother's word touched him. He didn't look like that during the rest of the DNC. Jesus.
[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;51222595]You're delusional if you think Sanders would favour Hillary over Trump in any universe[/QUOTE] Except he already has in this one? You're the one being delusional here.
[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;51222595]?? You're delusional if you think Sanders would favour Hillary over Trump in any universe, but neither represents what Sen. Sanders originally proposed Also besides the theatrics on the stage this isn't the face of a man who "glowingly endorsed" hillary [IMG]https://media.giphy.com/media/l0HlxtmFWEkvOVrS8/giphy-facebook_s.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Really? You think Sanders [i]prefers Donald Trump over Hillary[/i]? Fucking really? How absolutely unbelievably deluded are you? This is like thinking the Earth is fucking flat in pure ignorance. "[B]Donald Trump is not going to become president[/B] for a number of reasons, and the major reason is that [B]we cannot have a president who has insulted Latinos and Mexicans[/B], who has insulted Muslims, who every day is insulting women in one way or another, who has insulted veterans like John McCain and others, who has insulted African-Americans in a very profound way…. [B]Mr. Trump will not become president[/B] because the American people understand that our strength is in our diversity." "I think [B]Donald Trump is a pathological liar.[/B]" "I think that what Trump is doing is appealing to the baser instincts among us: [B]xenophobia and, frankly, racism.[/B]" Get out of your delusional hugbox and actually read what the candidates are saying. You are literally, objectively, [I]undeniably wrong[/I].
[QUOTE=.Isak.;51222462]Sorry, I think you meant Trump, not Clinton. Clinton and Sanders have some strong disagreements, no question, but Sanders endorsed Clinton out of his own volition because the threat of Trump being elected is so completely against everything he stands for that he can set those disagreements aside for a common good.[/QUOTE] Yes, he endorsed Clinton because the alternative was a Trump presidency. That does not invalidate the fact that Clinton is absolutely opposite to the core principles Sanders stands for.
meanwhile seconds later [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/eHMPE0I.png[/IMG] Also jesus fucking christ try getting context for once.
[QUOTE=srobins;51222646]Yes, he endorsed Clinton because the alternative was a Trump presidency. That does not invalidate the fact that Clinton is absolutely opposite to the core principles Sanders stands for.[/QUOTE] More so than Trump? Definitely not. Hilary isn't good by any stretch of the imagination. But she's not even as far from the mark as is being proposed in this thread.
[QUOTE=srobins;51222646]Yes, he endorsed Clinton because the alternative was a Trump presidency. That does not invalidate the fact that Clinton is absolutely opposite to the core principles Sanders stands for.[/QUOTE] so thats why her voting record matches with Sanders' over 90%?
[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;51222653]Yes, so can you explain to me what point you're trying to make for me? I never mentioned to support for Trump once. Stop thinking in your box.[/QUOTE] Honestly dude, drop it. The facade is pathetic. You outright said [QUOTE]You're delusional if you think Sanders would favour Hillary over Trump in any universe[/QUOTE] that's an outright fucking falsehood, a misrepresentation of the truth, a total lie, a figment of your imagination that you can't defend in any context. So you respond with this drivel about "I don't support Trump". I didn't bring that up for a fucking second. What I brought up is [B]WHETHER SANDERS WOULD.[/B] Based on his policies, he clearly wouldn't. But you're not interested in that, are you?
[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;51222653]Yes, so can you explain to me what point you're trying to make for me? I never mentioned to support for Trump once. Stop thinking in your box.[/QUOTE] You claimed he wouldn't favor Hillary over Trump in any universe. But he endorsed her in this one and has [i]repeatedly[/i] slammed Trump over and over. His endorsement of Hillary mentioned Trump more often than it mentioned Hillary, because he recognizes the dangers that Trump poses to the US and allied himself with someone he shares [B]ninety fucking three percent of his senate voting record with[/B] in order to defeat Trump. Thinking that he wouldn't favor Hillary over Trump necessarily implies that he would favor Trump over Hillary. That's how the English language works. But that's clearly wrong, because he demonstrably doesn't. You're genuinely delusional. Bernie [I]despises[/I] Trump.
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Honestly if bill gates ran for president i'd probably vote for him, regardless of party affiliation.
[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;51222653]Yes, so can you explain to me what point you're trying to make for me? That doesn't invalidate any of my points that Hillary is also an antithesis for Sanders. for I never mentioned to support for Trump once. Stop thinking in your box.[/QUOTE] Even in this convoluted edit of your post, no, Hilary is by no means his "Antithesis". She is not his literal opposite. What do you not understand about this? Their voting record matches up over 90%. You're the delusional one trying to peddle an outright fabrication.
[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;51222689]Miswrote that, sorry. Both Trump and Hillary are horrible people, but Hillary even more so because she plays for the highest bidder.[/QUOTE] So her playing to the highest bidder is related to her voting record matching Sanders' almost exactly how?
[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;51222689]Miswrote that, sorry. Both Trump and Hillary are horrible people, but Hillary even more so and she has a record on that.[/QUOTE] prove it
[QUOTE=srobins;51222646]Yes, he endorsed Clinton because the alternative was a Trump presidency. That does not invalidate the fact that Clinton is absolutely opposite to the core principles Sanders stands for.[/QUOTE] No she isn't, they both made it clear in the primaries (even in the debates) that they agree on about 90% of issues. They have some differing principles, but being 90% in agreement doesn't make them complete opposites.
[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;51222689]Miswrote that, sorry. Both Trump and Hillary are horrible people, but Hillary even more so because she plays for the highest bidder.[/QUOTE] And Trump doesn't? Trump is going to be reducing the taxes for all the other "Highest bidders". He's going to be giving them incredible freedom, his policies all show this as such. Trumps attitude, and his policies, now those are the antithesis to Bernie. Those are the literal exact opposites to Bernie. Trump is supported by Citizens United itself, the group that sued for a court ruling so that corporations could be seen as people. Trump is literally "The highest bidder" concept himself. That's who's running and you're saying "Nah he's not as bad". No. He is as bad. He is worse. Clinton is bad but she will be held to task by millions of reluctant voters. Trump would be set ape on the world.
[QUOTE=Bread_Baron;51222628]Except he already has in this one? You're the one being delusional here.[/QUOTE] I knew Sam for years on Steam/Gmod. He's pretty racist against blacks, and moderately homophobic. Best to ignore him.
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