[QUOTE=X RaVeN;50388713]
Same is with Max Payne, it shits so fucking much on the game setting as well. As a stand alone it was fine, as a Max Payne-based movie it was atrocious.[/QUOTE]
No, it really wasn't. Even as a standalone movie, Max Payne was fucking awful. It supposedly being based on the game was just salt in the wound.
[QUOTE=Loadingue;50388802]What does this even mean? Is this some sort of attempt to prove that a video game can't have a story worth porting over to a film?[/QUOTE]
Pretty much exactly that. Either it's not worth porting over or it has to be drastically changed to fit a film, which usually ends up completely ripping up huge chunks of it.
I think a good example could be GTAV's online heists. They sound like great stories of heists, but when you take a step back, majority of them do not require 4 people. 3 at most. But a 4th is added to the story so a 4th player can participate. The story contours to the gameplay, which doesn't exist in a movie.
[QUOTE=smurfy;50388864]Video game movies have kind of been dead for the past five years, this and Assassin's Creed seem like an attempt at revival if anything. I mean I can't think of many video game movies that have come out this decade[/QUOTE]Well, there were two Hitman movies. I didn't see the second one, but the first was weird and as a stand-alone thing wouldn't have been so bad, but tied to the Hitman legacy was the worst thing to ever happen to the IP.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;50389263]Well, there were two Hitman movies. I didn't see the second one, but the first was weird and as a stand-alone thing wouldn't have been so bad, but tied to the Hitman legacy was the worst thing to ever happen to the IP.[/QUOTE]
I never played the games, but between the two I enjoyed the story of the first movie more but the action in the second movie was more appealing to me.
[quote]Warcraft, the film adaptation of Blizzard’s MMO behemoth[/quote]
This is wrong. It's like saying that Lord of the Rings is a film adaption of the 'The Hobbit' boks
I'm not going to be swayed by the reviews of some "critics". I have never trusted any movie critic and still don't. I refuse to believe the movie is as bad as they're making out. Guess I'll find out for myself come Monday.
[QUOTE=Anyx;50389385]I'm not going to be swayed by the reviews of some "critics". I have never trusted any movie critic and still don't. I refuse to believe the movie is as bad as they're making out. Guess I'll find out for myself come Monday.[/QUOTE]
I mean these guys do get paid to expertly give their opinion on movies, and a majority can't be wrong. The trailers didn't look very good at all.
[QUOTE=Anyx;50389385]I'm not going to be swayed by the reviews of some "critics". I have never trusted any movie critic and still don't. I refuse to believe the movie is as bad as they're making out. Guess I'll find out for myself come Monday.[/QUOTE]
I don't agree with critics (or a single critic) a 100% of the time, but when the majority of critics say something is bad or mediocre, it probably is. Considering the trailers have looked like shit as well, chances are the movie is bad.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50389255]Pretty much exactly that. Either it's not worth porting over or it has to be drastically changed to fit a film, which usually ends up completely ripping up huge chunks of it.
I think a good example could be GTAV's online heists. They sound like great stories of heists, but when you take a step back, majority of them do not require 4 people. 3 at most. But a 4th is added to the story so a 4th player can participate. The story contours to the gameplay, which doesn't exist in a movie.[/QUOTE]
Halo 4: Forward unto Dawn was (IMO) the closest thing we've ever gotten to a working adaptation, in fact i'd say it works just fine. It tells it's own 'unique' cannon story using parts of the Source material while respecting the rest. It's not without it's problems and the obvious lack of budget does detract but the director had the right idea.
Sadly no one else has tried that since afaik.
Regardless of reviews, I'll be seeing this movie on Saturday, and frankly, while my hopes aren't super high, I have a good feeling that the movie will be entertaining and satisfy my desire for a big-screen Warcraft movie.
My mate really wanted to see this, so we're going to see it Monday on his birthday.
Hopefully it'll at least be entertaining.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50389255]Pretty much exactly that. Either it's not worth porting over or it has to be drastically changed to fit a film, which usually ends up completely ripping up huge chunks of it.
I think a good example could be GTAV's online heists. They sound like great stories of heists, but when you take a step back, majority of them do not require 4 people. 3 at most. But a 4th is added to the story so a 4th player can participate. The story contours to the gameplay, which doesn't exist in a movie.[/QUOTE]
That doesn't mean game stories aren't worth porting over. The only reason why we haven't got many good game adaptations is because apparently the people working on it are not talented enough.
Games like Uncharted can be adapted without difficulty, though [I]of course[/I] you have to considerably reduce the amount of climbing and the puzzles, but everything else works great.
Mass Effect would also work great if you use the same action ratio as, say Star Wars or similar.
It's obvious any adaptation needs... adapting. But the amount of games that would make great movies? There are tons. If only people worked on it as hard as the people who made the games.
[editline]25th May 2016[/editline]
It's like when people suggest that a BioShock movie should be in first person. Of course not, if first person was the only way to get immersed in an original universe a lot of films would suck as they are.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50386743]The basis of a video game is the gameplay, not the story. Most video games have shit stories when looked at solely through that lens. [i]And the few ones that do still are played for the gameplay at the end of the day.[/i][/QUOTE]
This is just objectively false. There are plenty of games out there that are worth playing because of their stories.
[QUOTE=elowin;50390171]This is just objectively false. There are plenty of games out there that are worth playing because of their stories.[/QUOTE]
Yeah! There are quite a couple of games with usual, boring gameplay but a great story. Spec Ops: The Line notably, but also Mass Effect 1.
Though speaking of adaptation, the fact Spec Ops The Line talks about games, the player's point of view, action-oriented heroism and decision-making... those things would be lost in a film adaptation, but the story stands on its own as a more modern Apocalypse Now, which is certainly good enough.
Just a little comment on SOtL.
I realise this probably doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things but I saw a collection of film reviews from German critics, most of which are positive. Still taking everything said with a grain of salt, however. Just thought I'd throw out not a majority of critics seem to hate this thing.
[QUOTE=Loadingue;50390199]Yeah! There are quite a couple of games with usual, boring gameplay but a great story. Spec Ops: The Line notably, but also Mass Effect 1.
Though speaking of adaptation, the fact Spec Ops The Line talks about games, the player's point of view, action-oriented heroism and decision-making... those things would be lost in a film adaptation, but the story stands on its own as a more modern Apocalypse Now, which is certainly good enough.
Just a little comment on SOtL.[/QUOTE]
nah sotl would make a great movie if done right, especially since i felt that it was always walker's story and my personal choices never mattered
the story from a third person narrative is fine but pushing the whole IT'S YOUR FAULT angle too hard was stupid and heavy handed ("don't want to do the thing? turn off the game!!")
[QUOTE=Jund;50390310]nah sotl would make a great movie if done right, especially since i felt that it was always walker's story and my personal choices never mattered
the story from a third person narrative is fine but pushing the whole IT'S YOUR FAULT angle too hard was stupid and heavy handed ("don't want to do the thing? turn off the game!!")[/QUOTE]
Yeah that's what I meant, that "it's your fault" thing can't be applied to films but the rest is certainly good enough to warrant a good film, relatable to Apocalypse Now or The Deer Hunter.
The only "good" video game movie was Silent Hill imo. It wasn't perfect, but pretty good for what it was. It's always best to get a director who's actually played and loved the games if a movie is being planned for it.
Too bad they didn't bring the same guy back for the sequel, 'cuz holy moly that movie [i]sucked. [/i]
[QUOTE=archangel125;50386688]On the subject of terrible movie renditions of popular media, does anyone here remember Eragon?
Just thinking back to it makes me cringe.[/QUOTE]
Honestly just thinking of the book makes me cringe. There really wasn't any way they could have salvaged that plot.
The worst offender was book 2 or 3.
Just saw the movie, I enjoyed it but I never played the warcraft games or WoW so I can't really criticize how faithful it is to the games lore but my friend enjoyed it and he's very into the warcraft series.
[url]https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/may/25/world-of-warcraft-the-beginning-review-end-already-nigh[/url]
[quote] The prospect of a predominantly white, European realm being invaded by foreign, primitive, darker skinned hordes (they are actually called the Horde) might set alarm bells ringing in our current climate of immigration anxiety. Is this a veiled Ukip broadcast? Or a pro-Trump one? Nobody suggests the orcs are there to steal Azeroth’s jobs or exploit its benefits system, thankfully, though they are intent on overrunning their adoptive country and sucking the souls out of all its living creatures. [/quote]
haha what the fuck am i reading
yeah im waiting for the movie
[QUOTE=wraithcat;50392267]Honestly just thinking of the book makes me cringe. There really wasn't any way they could have salvaged that plot.
The worst offender was book 2 or 3.[/QUOTE]
Seriously? I thought the books were good. Book 2 was a bit off, but the rest was great.
[QUOTE=Pastor_Necro;50392712][url]https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/may/25/world-of-warcraft-the-beginning-review-end-already-nigh[/url]
haha what the fuck am i reading
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Modern gaming journalism quality writing.
[QUOTE=wraithcat;50392267]Honestly just thinking of the book makes me cringe. There really wasn't any way they could have salvaged that plot.
The worst offender was book 2 or 3.[/QUOTE]
no its 4, he introduced dragon-nukes and then proceeded to use them in the big climax that he spent 3 books building to.
it was a terrible book, but then YA books became garbage so relatively speaking its good, because everything else in its genera is garbage
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[QUOTE=Pastor_Necro;50392712][url]https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/may/25/world-of-warcraft-the-beginning-review-end-already-nigh[/url]
haha what the fuck am i reading
yeah im waiting for the movie[/QUOTE]
(someone who isn't aware that the green skinned horde is [I]literally evil and driven to kill everything in their path[/i])
[QUOTE=Nidhogg;50390853]The only "good" video game movie was Silent Hill imo. It wasn't perfect, but pretty good for what it was. It's always best to get a director who's actually played and loved the games if a movie is being planned for it.
Too bad they didn't bring the same guy back for the sequel, 'cuz holy moly that movie [i]sucked. [/i][/QUOTE]
All people I know that's tried to watch it has stopped mid-way because of it being completely shit :v:
[QUOTE=usaokay;50388700]I honestly find Warcraft's story to be shite.[/QUOTE]
The real value of later -craft games was mainly just seeing how the story continued and the arcs got resolved for fans, especially the Starcraft 2 expansions. But in terms of actual storytelling, it's really the cinematic method in how they told their stories with strong atmosphere and the character cast, rather than the stories themselves and their writing. No one is going to say Starcraft was a pinnacle of originality and/or storytelling, same for Diablo or Warcraft.
So to be completely blunt, the movie doesn't exactly have a high bar to shoot for in the first place.
Norways biggest newspaper gave it 5 out of 6, she said it will probably be a 4 for people who dont play the games but a 5 for those who do, cant wait to see it tonight!
Silent Hill Revelations is a bit of a guilty pleasure for me I gotta admit, cus it has Sean Bean who [sp]survives, seriously he survives barely any movie but he gets away in this one without a scratch from the worst town on Earth unharmed [i]twice[/i]. Hell, he's the only major character to survive in the first one.[/sp]
Anyway, back on topic, a friend on Facebook watched it and said the Warcraft movie is pretty cool - so nothing mindblowing, but not shit I guess. Might watch it myself now.
[QUOTE=paul simon;50394700]All people I know that's tried to watch it has stopped mid-way because of it being completely shit :v:[/QUOTE]
Well I can't speak for your friends, but I thought the movie was made well enough and actually took its content seriously. The only part I can ever really complain about was the forced insertion of Pyramid Head since he was only a character from SH2 and had nothing to do with SH1. Some fans might also complain about the protagonist being changed to female, altering the villain and her motives, and finishing with a different ending, but the director defended himself saying he felt making a carbon copy of the game's original story wouldn't have brought anything new to the table that the game already had, as well as being impossible to fit the entire story in a 2 hour time limit.
In all it's probably the story's altered content that turned off a lot of fans; but the movie still holds up well on its own as a standalone movie and doesn't feel cringey and hamfisted like most other video game movies do.
Did anyone genuinely expect it to be good?
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