The first Warcraft movie reviews are in - Polidicks

The whole movie seems like it's marketed towards 12 years olds.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;50395291]Did anyone genuinely expect it to be good?[/QUOTE] Because of the director, yes.

I love how the story was twisted to the point of the Alliance being the bad guys who have to learn to trust the kill-crazy murder hordes that came to their planet with the sole intention of slaughtering everyone they meet. Like come on the Alliance already gets shat on by all the content, now they lose their consolation prize of getting to be the "good" guys?

[QUOTE=RikohZX;50394747]No one is going to say Starcraft was a pinnacle of originality and/or storytelling, same for Diablo or Warcraft.[/QUOTE] ok hol up my guy because sc1 had one of the best stories of all time

[QUOTE=willer;50395353]I love how the story was twisted to the point of the Alliance being the bad guys who have to learn to trust the kill-crazy murder hordes that came to their planet with the sole intention of slaughtering everyone they meet. Like come on the Alliance already gets shat on by all the content, now they lose their consolation prize of getting to be the "good" guys?[/QUOTE] They're shown as the bad guys in the game as well, with Horde being rather.. well, very weak after the whole garbage hellscream thing. I don't know why they're trying to push the "ALLIANCE TUFF!!!!" thing so hard, its really really dumb :v: -- I feel this movie will become a great B movie. [editline]26th May 2016[/editline] Oh and on the topic of media movies, I thought that the Enders' Game movie came out excellent. [editline]26th May 2016[/editline] The WoW story has been steadily declining with the current writer.

The previews give me the impression of a badly-imitated Hobbit (which was disappointing enough on its own) stuffed into the warcraft universe.

[QUOTE=Map in a box;50398498]They're shown as the bad guys in the game as well, with Horde being rather.. well, very weak after the whole garbage hellscream thing. I don't know why they're trying to push the "ALLIANCE TUFF!!!!" thing so hard, its really really dumb :v: -- I feel this movie will become a great B movie. [editline]26th May 2016[/editline] Oh and on the topic of media movies, I thought that the Enders' Game movie came out excellent. [editline]26th May 2016[/editline] The WoW story has been steadily declining with the current writer.[/QUOTE] From what I can tell the Alliance has been shown as people who are trying to do well, but with a lot of "bad apples" that accidentally become corrupt by demon magic or something and end up killing a lot of innocent people. The Horde I really don't understand, because half of the races are about preserving nature and being really honorable and then the other half are constantly committing war-crimes and atrocities at an alarming rate. I can understand how the Tauren and Orcs helped each-other out when they first met, but you'd think that the noble naturalists would have realized that their goals aren't in line with the aliens that came to the planet to find things to kill, or the undead leagues who are known to slaughter people just to add to their own ranks, or the greedy money-grunding goblins that are always destroying the environment to make a quick buck. Now that you mention it, most of the new lore and stories have been getting pretty abysmal in comparison with the earlier ones. That's probably the cause of a lot of these stupid inconsistencies.

[QUOTE=willer;50401034]From what I can tell the Alliance has been shown as people who are trying to do well, but with a lot of "bad apples" that accidentally become corrupt by demon magic or something and end up killing a lot of innocent people. The Horde I really don't understand, because half of the races are about preserving nature and being really honorable and then the other half are constantly committing war-crimes and atrocities at an alarming rate. I can understand how the Tauren and Orcs helped each-other out when they first met, but you'd think that the noble naturalists would have realized that their goals aren't in line with the aliens that came to the planet to find things to kill, or the undead leagues who are known to slaughter people just to add to their own ranks, or the greedy money-grunding goblins that are always destroying the environment to make a quick buck. Now that you mention it, most of the new lore and stories have been getting pretty abysmal in comparison with the earlier ones. That's probably the cause of a lot of these stupid inconsistencies.[/QUOTE] Tends to happen when you add in new major factors to lore, including entire sub-factions and races, in a steady manner that's less for practicality of the lore and more for having a new race and things to play with. Combine that with WoW running for 12 years onwards, with so many of its own on-going changes and rewrites and other factors, and you're inevitably going to have problems.

When I saw that Ork guy on the poster all I could think of was this guy from small soldiers: [t]http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/8823/10031275_1.jpg?v=8CE71411C11F350[/t]

Well, it's not getting any better... [img]http://i.imgur.com/yW5Whkd.png[/img]

It even has the orange and blue cover. Goddamn.

[QUOTE=willer;50401034]From what I can tell the Alliance has been shown as people who are trying to do well, but with a lot of "bad apples" that accidentally become corrupt by demon magic or something and end up killing a lot of innocent people. The Horde I really don't understand, because half of the races are about preserving nature and being really honorable and then the other half are constantly committing war-crimes and atrocities at an alarming rate. I can understand how the Tauren and Orcs helped each-other out when they first met, but you'd think that the noble naturalists would have realized that their goals aren't in line with the aliens that came to the planet to find things to kill, or the undead leagues who are known to slaughter people just to add to their own ranks, or the greedy money-grunding goblins that are always destroying the environment to make a quick buck. Now that you mention it, most of the new lore and stories have been getting pretty abysmal in comparison with the earlier ones. That's probably the cause of a lot of these stupid inconsistencies.[/QUOTE] Orcs are aliens too. They're not from Azeroth, they're from Draenor. Gnomes are robots cursed into flesh, Dwarves are stone people cursed into flesh (both made by Aliens called the Titans), Humans are some weird hybrid race because they're the offspring of Vykrul (Half-Giants) which are the descendants of Giants which were made by the Titans. Nightelves are evolved from Trolls after being tainted by the Well of Eternity. High elves are Nightelves who were exiled off to a far off land and created their own source of magical power called the Sunwell, after the Third War in which their city was razed and the Sunwell defiled they became the Blood Elves and were later corrupted by fel magic (demon magic) so their appearance changed, there are still some High Elves around though. Draenei are aliens from the planet Argus which was destroyed by the Burning Legion (demons). Trolls are Trolls and have always been, Tauren have existed before the Titans too. Pandaren have existed during and before the Titans, they once shared an empire/alliance with the Nightelves until the Nightelves started using arcane magic recklessly. Worgen are in two types one is a druid form the other is a magical curse, the playable ones are the accidental tampering with magic and letting trapped insane druids out of the Emerald Dream (an astral plain not normally accessible) who then infected normal Humans. Forsaken are the result of a magical plague created by the Burning Legion that killed them and raised them into undeath, they regained their free will and basically just want to live in the lands that were theirs before they died, but everyone hates them and tries to kill them because they're "unnatural". Fun fact- an undead priest is actually one of the most hardcore characters in the game, why? Because they channel holy magic which literally immolates them, tears at them and causes them agonising pain in order to heal others. They have a few bad apples and a few crazies that want to see the world burn but really they just want to secure their survival. As they can't procreate they rely on resurrecting the fallen in order to defend their holdings and such. Goblins were slaves of the Trolls until an ore called Kajamite made them super smart and they overthrew the Trolls and made them their slaves instead. And these are just the main (playable) races there are so many more: Nerubians, Murlocs, Gnolls, Troggs, Tuskarr, Naga, Mogu, Tol'vir, Qiraji, Naaru, Old gods, etc.

Mark Kermode gave it a fairly positive review. I have no interest in seeing it in the cinema but, maybe I'll wait till it is on VHS.

After all the time I've waited for this movie, hearing the news about the reviews is a tad disheartening. But seeing as how I'm a huge Warcraft lore nut I'm probably gonna go see it regardless. Then my love or hate for the movie will be entirely justified.

[QUOTE=willer;50401034]From what I can tell the Alliance has been shown as people who are trying to do well, but with a lot of "bad apples" that accidentally become corrupt by demon magic or something and end up killing a lot of innocent people. The Horde I really don't understand, because half of the races are about preserving nature and being really honorable and then the other half are constantly committing war-crimes and atrocities at an alarming rate. I can understand how the Tauren and Orcs helped each-other out when they first met, but you'd think that the noble naturalists would have realized that their goals aren't in line with the aliens that came to the planet to find things to kill, or the undead leagues who are known to slaughter people just to add to their own ranks, or the greedy money-grunding goblins that are always destroying the environment to make a quick buck. Now that you mention it, most of the new lore and stories have been getting pretty abysmal in comparison with the earlier ones. That's probably the cause of a lot of these stupid inconsistencies.[/QUOTE] The tauren wants to stay out of conflict but then the alliance (for some reason???) took camp taurajo, which the horde are (eternally apparently) retaliating by attacking ashenvale. There's grom hellscream which was a joke of an arc who somehow managed to brainwash all the orcs who wanted peace, and after he was defeated apparently the entire world south and north of orgrimmar still thinks he's the leader. I get its a big world, but continuity is a big thing.

Just watched it. It was okay, with a bunch of retcons though, - never played WoW [del]because MMORPGs are cancer and so is it's playerbase[/del] a lot of things are different from original games, unsurprising honestly because of the new subplots and races added later. All in all, a surprisingly good videogame movie. also, it was better than Uwe Boll movies.

[QUOTE=Map in a box;50403933]The tauren wants to stay out of conflict but then the alliance (for some reason???) took camp taurajo, which the horde are (eternally apparently) retaliating by attacking ashenvale. There's grom hellscream which was a joke of an arc who somehow managed to brainwash all the orcs who wanted peace, and after he was defeated apparently the entire world south and north of orgrimmar still thinks he's the leader. I get its a big world, but continuity is a big thing.[/QUOTE] The taking of camp taurajo was really kind of weird all-around. It seems kind of weird that the Alliance would be a fairly small influence on the Barrens and then suddenly have a foot-hold right on the doorstep to Mulgore, and on top of that the soldiers didn't seem to be interested in fighting at all, which is usually the opposite of how battles go down. Add to that that they specifically targeted the civilians and even killed children, the whole scene seems kind of weird. After thinking about it I'm down for the Alliance turning evil, they're just making the changes quite suddenly. Usually characters start out pretty good and only slowly get corrupted, but this is like a sudden shift from good to absolute evil.

[QUOTE=willer;50417860]The taking of camp taurajo was really kind of weird all-around. It seems kind of weird that the Alliance would be a fairly small influence on the Barrens and then suddenly have a foot-hold right on the doorstep to Mulgore, and on top of that the soldiers didn't seem to be interested in fighting at all, which is usually the opposite of how battles go down. Add to that that they specifically targeted the civilians and even killed children, the whole scene seems kind of weird. After thinking about it I'm down for the Alliance turning evil, they're just making the changes quite suddenly. Usually characters start out pretty good and only slowly get corrupted, but this is like a sudden shift from good to absolute evil.[/QUOTE] Camp Taurajo is unique. The Alliance commander who lead the attack actually ordered for there to be a gap in their lines so that the civilians could escape; many of them did in fact escape because of that. However, they had conscripted several dozen criminals into their ranks out of necessity. These criminals very much fit the "once a criminal, always a criminal"-archetype, as they began killing everything in sight. Once the battle was over and the camp taken, the criminals went AWOL and destroyed the camp entirely, and began looting the corpses; something that's considered a war crime in Alliance. So really, everything that happened at Camp Taurajo wasn't necessarily part of the plan. The commander, despite his best efforts, could not keep the conscripted criminals in line, and then they went and made the attack much, much worse than it needed to be. Now, on topic. I went and saw the film, and I enjoyed it a lot. The ending honestly send shivers down my spine, god damn. There's a lot of retcons, yes, some which are alright, others that are less than desirable. Some of the dialogue is pretty cringy, same with some of the scenes, but overall, it's actually a good fantasy movie. The CGI isn't as bad as you'd think, at least I don't think so. Most of the time things're going just fast enough for you not to notice any glaring mistakes in the CGI.

[QUOTE=The_J_Hat;50386867]For those who are worried about Duncan Jones's career, he's already got another project in the pipe, so he's not totally screwed by this[/QUOTE] I was under the impression that if warcraft didn't do well we wouldn't get another Moon movie (sequel, prequel, whatever). Is that still the case and this other project is something else or could that other project be a Moon movie?

[QUOTE=smurfy;50386656][t]http://imgkk.com/i/jyq_.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] Everything about the poster wreaks of "uninspiring" to me, classic army formation at the bottom, slightly faded out main cast in the middle, half face split of two opposing sides at the top. It's like they followed the "movie poster template" straight out of a google search.

[QUOTE=Punchy;50420629]Everything about the poster wreaks of "uninspiring" to me, classic army formation at the bottom, slightly faded out main cast in the middle, half face split of two opposing sides at the top. It's like they followed the "movie poster template" straight out of a google search.[/QUOTE] cool movie poster designs epic movie poster layout how to position movie characters on poster

[QUOTE=Punchy;50420629]Everything about the poster wreaks of "uninspiring" to me, classic army formation at the bottom, slightly faded out main cast in the middle, half face split of two opposing sides at the top. It's like they followed the "movie poster template" straight out of a google search.[/QUOTE] At least it's not the worst one. [thumb]http://cdn.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/warcraft-poster-dominic-cooper-king-llane.jpg[/thumb]