Democrat Enthusiasm Gap - Turnout Down Significantly Across Primary States - Polidicks

[QUOTE=OmniConsUme;49859904]And there is people who want to see America Burn because Hilary was nominated.[/QUOTE] I'm a Bernie supporter, and I understand full well people who would be disgruntled if Hillary got the democratic nominee over Bernie (myself included). However, I don't understand why some supporters would rather "see America burn" than vote for Hillary. If one wants to voice their concerns, I think it would be much better to abstain from voting or vote for a third party candidate like Jill Stein (or just write-in Bernie's name anyway to voice your dissatisfaction). If they genuinely think Trump would be a better president than Hillary and want to vote for him, that's fine too, but voting Trump in over Hillary because of sentiments like "it'd be better if America burned" seem pretty childish to me. A lot of people who make these statements are middle-class college-aged white kids who wouldn't really feel the brunt of a resulting burn anyway, but instead minorities and poor people would be left to rot.

[QUOTE=OmniConsUme;49859783]Not many people want to vote in a candidate that might not get in the full first year without the candidate going to jail/or impeached.[/QUOTE] It would be absolutely incredible if Clinton won the primary, chose Sanders as her running mate, beat Trump to the presidency, then got impeached and removed from office in her first year, leaving Sanders as president.

[QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;49860001]Good luck to him getting rid of the taint he's put on himself after his comments on Mexicans and Mulisms. That shit won't be easy to wash off in the eyes of the American public and he'll risk alienating the far right, where he has found his success to begin with. It will certainly be interesting to see what he does though, I don't think even he thought he'll make it this far.[/QUOTE] The terrifying thing is he'd probably get away with swinging center, what with the capacity for compartmentalization people need to support him. Trump is the mind of person who can convince people we've always been at war with East Asia.

[QUOTE=Leo the Leo;49860080]I'm a Bernie supporter, and I understand full well people who would be disgruntled if Hillary got the democratic nominee over Bernie (myself included). However, I don't understand why some supporters would rather "see America burn" than vote for Hillary. If one wants to voice their concerns, I think it would be much better to abstain from voting or vote for a third party candidate like Jill Stein (or just write-in Bernie's name anyway to voice your dissatisfaction). If they genuinely think Trump would be a better president than Hillary and want to vote for him, that's fine too, but voting Trump in over Hillary because of sentiments like "it'd be better if America burned" seem pretty childish to me. A lot of people who make these statements are middle-class college-aged white kids who wouldn't really feel the brunt of a resulting burn anyway, but instead minorities and poor people would be left to rot.[/QUOTE] Why watch America burn when you can still voice your opinion? Vote Trump if Bernie isn't nominated, then immediately immigrate elsewhere. 4 years of quality Canadian comedy-news on my island retreat.

[QUOTE=catbarf;49860105]It would be absolutely incredible if Clinton won the primary, chose Sanders as her running mate, beat Trump to the presidency, then got impeached and removed from office in her first year, leaving Sanders as president.[/QUOTE] And then he dies 3 weeks into his presidency because he's old as shit and then we get stuck with President Paul "Biden's Bitch" Ryan

[QUOTE=OmniConsUme;49859666]Apparently If democrats know what good for them, they need to back Bernie Sanders. Too Bad it's not happening cause Hilary got the Money.[/QUOTE] Sanders isn't bringing in the voters either. It seems the democrats aren't too excited about either of them.

[QUOTE=1/4 Life;49860192]Why watch America burn when you can still voice your opinion? Vote Trump if Bernie isn't nominated, then immediately immigrate elsewhere. 4 years of quality Canadian comedy-news on my island retreat.[/QUOTE] This is so childish lmao. Like the little kid who didn't get his way so he's gotta ruin it for everyone else

[QUOTE=KillRay;49860334]This is so childish lmao. Like the little kid who didn't get his way so he's gotta ruin it for everyone else[/QUOTE] It's satire if the entire brick wall worth of it didn't make it obvious.

[QUOTE=OmniConsUme;49859666]Apparently If democrats know what good for them, they need to back Bernie Sanders. Too Bad it's not happening cause Hilary got the Money.[/QUOTE] Hillary isn't winning because money, Hillary is winning because she has the Clinton name and she has been in and around the DNC for long enough to where people are wanting her in.

[QUOTE=1/4 Life;49860341]It's satire if the entire brick wall worth of it didn't make it obvious.[/QUOTE] But there's a lot of people who seriously think like that, which is my issue. But you're right, I did miss the satire and I apologize.

FYI, turn out is low despite Sanders running. Plenty of people know who Sanders is, but an aged socialist from Vermont isn't really doing it for them. The key point they make in the article is that largely, young and non-white voters "Obama voters" aren't turning out like they did in 08' and 12' for either Clinton or Sanders.

[QUOTE=emly;49859988]*Trump is elected in, pulls off Trump mask to reveal Trump, swings hardline left+embraces full communism*[/QUOTE] At this point his campaign is so outrageous and crazy, this whole thing has just been "a crazy bastard and doing whatever he wants". It wouldn't be out of character to suddenly swap ideologies and do something else, if that's what he wanted to do.

[QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;49860029]All Hillary has to do is put spotlights on the really nasty side of Trump that GOP hasn't really tried doing since they are pretty far to right themselves. Trump is nowhere near as good as Hillary at debating either.[/QUOTE] I think Trump will be able to deflect such attacks though because he avoids being absolute; he doesn't say, for example, that all Mexicans are rapists, he says Mexico is us their rapists. Not to mention the majority of Americans support [url=http://www.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/184262/american-public-opinion-immigration.aspx]better southern border control[/url], oppose accepting [url=http://time.com/4122938/refugees-syria-america-poll/]Syrian[/url] [url=http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/poll-majority-americans-oppose-accepting-syrian-refugees-n465816]Refugees[/url], and only 40% of voters oppose a [url=http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/immigration/december_2015/voters_like_trump_s_proposed_muslim_ban]temporary ban on Muslims entering the US[/url].

[QUOTE=DaMastez;49860912]I think Trump will be able to deflect such attacks though because he avoids being absolute; he doesn't say, for example, that all Mexicans are rapists, he says Mexico is us their rapists. Not to mention the majority of Americans support [url=http://www.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/184262/american-public-opinion-immigration.aspx]better southern border control[/url], oppose accepting [url=http://time.com/4122938/refugees-syria-america-poll/]Syrian[/url] [url=http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/poll-majority-americans-oppose-accepting-syrian-refugees-n465816]Refugees[/url], and only 40% of voters oppose a [url=http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/immigration/december_2015/voters_like_trump_s_proposed_muslim_ban]temporary ban on Muslims entering the US[/url].[/QUOTE] He wants to avoid absolutes, then goes and says he wants to ban all Muslims (1.6 billion people) from entering the country. Sure.

[QUOTE=DaMastez;49860912]I think Trump will be able to deflect such attacks though because he avoids being absolute; he doesn't say, for example, that all Mexicans are rapists, he says Mexico is us their rapists. Not to mention the majority of Americans support [url=http://www.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/184262/american-public-opinion-immigration.aspx]better southern border control[/url], oppose accepting [url=http://time.com/4122938/refugees-syria-america-poll/]Syrian[/url] [url=http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/poll-majority-americans-oppose-accepting-syrian-refugees-n465816]Refugees[/url], and only 40% of voters oppose a [url=http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/immigration/december_2015/voters_like_trump_s_proposed_muslim_ban]temporary ban on Muslims entering the US[/url].[/QUOTE] It's sad to see Americans want to bomb the fuck out of Syria but refuse to accept refugees.

[QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;49861091]He wants to avoid absolutes, then goes and says he wants to ban all Muslims (1.6 billion people) from entering the country. Sure.[/QUOTE] He gave the vague prefix of "temporary", thus avoiding being absolute. My point was more he hasn't, that I have seen, backed himself into a corner regarding topics most people would find offencive.

Clinton is unpopular because she's corrupt and Bernie is unpopular because the average voters simply thinks "[I]Ew, a [B]socialist[/B][/I]!" without doing any research into his policies. This isn't shaping up to be a good election for the Democrats.

[QUOTE=sgman91;49860325]Sanders isn't bringing in the voters either. It seems the democrats aren't too excited about either of them.[/QUOTE] Because the media is extremely bias and hardly cover and when they do, its negative. Trump on the other hand baths in media coverage.

[QUOTE=Toyokunari;49861392]Because the media is extremely bias and hardly cover and when they do, its negative. Trump on the other hand baths in media coverage.[/QUOTE] The media loves Trump, he gives them nice sound clips that get those sweet sweet views.

[QUOTE=Lurr;49861367]Clinton is unpopular because she's corrupt and Bernie is unpopular because the average voters simply thinks "[I]Ew, a [B]socialist[/B][/I]!" without doing any research into his policies. This isn't shaping up to be a good election for the Democrats.[/QUOTE] This isn't shaping up to be a good election for anyone apart from Trump himself. Well, until he's crushed that is.

[QUOTE=Toyokunari;49861392]Because the media is extremely bias and hardly cover and when they do, its negative. Trump on the other hand baths in media coverage.[/QUOTE] Sure, but the other candidates in the GOP primaries are also getting huge turnouts compared to other elections. It's not just Trump.

[QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;49861534] Well, until he's crushed that is.[/QUOTE] [I]If[/I] he gets crushed.

[QUOTE=sgman91;49861535]Sure, but the other candidates in the GOP primaries are also getting huge turnouts compared to other elections. It's not just Trump.[/QUOTE] Because there are also a lot more candidates on the republican side, means more get out to vote operations where as democrats only have two get out the vote operations, not only that but the times are more favourable when Bush left office when the economy is in shambles making more people come out to vote for democrat. But also the DNC is a factor, scheduling debates at terrible times, when everyone's asleep or watching a game. I'm sure there is more to the DNC than that, but not very concrete information.

because they see the two front runners and think "gee a marxist and a criminal, we're so lucky"

[QUOTE=Toyokunari;49861807]Because there are also a lot more candidates on the republican side, means more get out to vote operations where as democrats only have two get out the vote operations, not only that but the times are more favourable when Bush left office when the economy is in shambles making more people come out to vote for democrat. But also the DNC is a factor, scheduling debates at terrible times, when everyone's asleep or watching a game. I'm sure there is more to the DNC than that, but not very concrete information.[/QUOTE] I don't think you understand. The second and third place GOP candidates are STILL getting more votes than the GOP candidates last time around. Even individually they are getting more. It has nothing to do with there being a lot of candidates.

Bernie's pretty much lost. But I'll be damned if I go anywhere near someone who literally campaigned for a segregationist. She's potentially more dangerous than either of the republican candidates. Her husband passed Don't Ask, Don't Tell and she honestly didn't give a damn about healthcare until bernie proposed medicare for all. I'm defecting and voting for trump. If he's facist at least I can watch the world burn.

[QUOTE=Lurr;49861367]Clinton is unpopular because she's corrupt and Bernie is unpopular because the average voters simply thinks "[I]Ew, a [B]socialist[/B][/I]!" without doing any research into his policies. This isn't shaping up to be a good election for the Democrats.[/QUOTE] Its kind of sad seeing people with their head so far up their own ass that the only reason they can possibly conceive to explain others having different opinions and stances than theirs is because they're simply illiterate

[QUOTE=sgman91;49861859]I don't think you understand. The second and third place GOP candidates are STILL getting more votes than the GOP candidates last time around. Even individually they are getting more. It has nothing to do with there being a lot of candidates.[/QUOTE] And that is not my only reason, did you read? Also if you haven't got it, It has nothing to do with Bernie being uninteresting as for the reason for the low democratic turn outs. All the points I mention all add up for lower turn out in democrats. Also apparently Hillary has high unfavourable ratings, not hard to see why turn out is lower when the only interesting candidate on the democratic side is hidden or highly scrutinised due to bias and all the points I mentioned.

Have y'all actually read Trump's positions on the issues, on his website? They're pretty reasonable. His healthcare plan isn't single payer/universal, but it's better than the massive blowjob to the insurance companies that is Obamacare. And he wants to ad Women's heath stuff to the V.A.

[QUOTE=Anders118;49859951]You people are idiots if you think Trump will defeat Hillary in the 2016 election. TOXX ME UP BITCHES! :toxx:[/QUOTE] rip