• Democrat Enthusiasm Gap - Turnout Down Significantly Across Primary States
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[QUOTE=proch;49865468]rip[/QUOTE] postal is going to have a fucking field day when these toxx go through.
[QUOTE=Anders118;49859951]You people are idiots if you think Trump will defeat Hillary in the 2016 election. TOXX ME UP BITCHES! :toxx:[/QUOTE] You're an idiot for thinking that Hilary could beat Trump tbh. I'm a Bernie supporter but I don't find Clinton as offensive as many here do, and in many instances think she'd be a great choice for the white house. But there's not a shot in hell that she'd best Trump in the polls. She doesn't have excitement, he does. Especially if disaffected Bernie fans as seen in this thread either don't vote or do a write in, splitting the already lean vote and handing it to the Republicans. Basically the best thing that can happen at this point is that Cruz and Rubio either team up to beat Donald or one of them does, resulting in Trump foolishly continuing to run siphoning votes off them on the general election because he really thinks he's worth it
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;49865510]You're an idiot for thinking that Hilary could beat Trump tbh. I'm a Bernie supporter but I don't find Clinton as offensive as many here do, and in many instances think she'd be a great choice for the white house. But there's not a shot in hell that she'd best Trump in the polls. She doesn't have excitement, he does. Especially if disaffected Bernie fans as seen in this thread either don't vote or do a write in, splitting the already lean vote and handing it to the Republicans. Basically the best thing that can happen at this point is that Cruz and Rubio either team up to beat Donald or one of them does, resulting in Trump foolishly continuing to run siphoning votes off them on the general election because he really thinks he's worth it[/QUOTE] I really hope all of the hardcore Bernie supporters do a write in vote and cause the Republicans to win. That would be splendid. Also considering Bernie said "I will not run independent."
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;49865510]You're an idiot for thinking that Hilary could beat Trump tbh. I'm a Bernie supporter but I don't find Clinton as offensive as many here do, and in many instances think she'd be a great choice for the white house. But there's not a shot in hell that she'd best Trump in the polls. She doesn't have excitement, he does. Especially if disaffected Bernie fans as seen in this thread either don't vote or do a write in, splitting the already lean vote and handing it to the Republicans. Basically the best thing that can happen at this point is that Cruz and Rubio either team up to beat Donald or one of them does, resulting in Trump foolishly continuing to run siphoning votes off them on the general election because he really thinks he's worth it[/QUOTE] You would rather have two religious conservatives in the white house who would tear this country apart just to repeal the same-sex marriage ruling and keep cannabis banned for the sake of keeping it banned over Trump, a wild card who would most likely be leaning more to the left and not bother to repeal same sex marriage at all or bother keeping cannabis banned when it can increase his popularity among all youth voters and pull left votes to him? No one can pin point Trump on a issue like those two since he would keep flipping and say he never supported it or that he changed his mind. The only guy on the right who I could've tolerated in the white house was Rand Paul but Donald Trump is unfortunately the better choice of the three stooges.
[QUOTE=AnonymaPizza;49864689]Bernie's pretty much lost. But I'll be damned if I go anywhere near someone who literally campaigned for a segregationist. She's potentially more dangerous than either of the republican candidates. Her husband passed Don't Ask, Don't Tell and she honestly didn't give a damn about healthcare until bernie proposed medicare for all. I'm defecting and voting for trump. If he's facist at least I can watch the world burn.[/QUOTE] How immature of you None of the effects of "the world burning" will probably even affect you so way to wish suffering upon those who will
I now starting to think that the BernieBros are real... Not in the way Clinton's Media has described them, but rather the ones who would vote for trump to see the world burn if Bernie's not nominated.
Trump supporters and the hardcore Bernie supporters are two sides of the same coin. They don't really give any fucks about the well being of the American people (and to a lesser extent the rest of the world since the POTUS is hugely influential) they only care about their candidate and nothing else. Self centered as fuck and as bad as each other.
In sum, Americans are retarded.
I think the effects of a Trump presidency are WAY overblown, you guys need to chill the fuck out. He isnt the second coming of Hitler like people keep heavily implying. Has anyone actually bothered to look at his policies or is everyone still overtly rustled over him firing up the base with immigration ideas HE knows are not possible and will have to be negotiated down?
[QUOTE=Durandal;49866426]I think the effects of a Trump presidency are WAY overblown, you guys need to chill the fuck out. He isnt the second coming of Hitler like people keep heavily implying. Has anyone actually bothered to look at his policies or is everyone still overtly rustled over him firing up the base with immigration ideas HE knows are not possible and will have to be negotiated down?[/QUOTE] Even if he didn't yell out extreme xenophobic tripe the idea that this egoistical man child who's dumb as fuck, will have the highest position of power in the world's most powerful and influential country is god damn terrifying. It'll also mean GOP will have nigh complete control of the country.
[QUOTE=Durandal;49866426]I think the effects of a Trump presidency are WAY overblown, you guys need to chill the fuck out. He isnt the second coming of Hitler like people keep heavily implying. Has anyone actually bothered to look at his policies or is everyone still overtly rustled over him firing up the base with immigration ideas HE knows are not possible and will have to be negotiated down?[/QUOTE] um putting a man who's had his business go bankrupt several times in charge of a country is not a very smart idea friend!
[QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;49866397]Trump supporters and the hardcore Bernie supporters are two sides of the same coin. They don't really give any fucks about the well being of the American people (and to a lesser extent the rest of the world since the POTUS is hugely influential) they only care about their candidate and nothing else. Self centered as fuck and as bad as each other.[/QUOTE] I fail to see this, how would electing Bernie have negative implications the like of a Trump presidency on the american people and the rest of the world. I know that Bernie's popular online and people are passionate about him but is a general election really the time to be contrarian
[QUOTE=Duck M.;49866756]I fail to see this, how would electing Bernie have negative implications the like of a Trump presidency on the american people and the rest of the world. I know that Bernie's popular online and people are passionate about him but is a general election really the time to be contrarian[/QUOTE] I never said Bernie would be bad, in fact I wish he could win the nominee since he seems the best suited but that isn't going to be the case. I'm talking about his fanatical supporters who claim they will vote for Trump simply because Bernie lost.
[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;49865552]I really hope all of the hardcore Bernie supporters do a write in vote and cause the Republicans to win. That would be splendid. Also considering Bernie said "I will not run independent."[/QUOTE] and you said you're not a neocon
[QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;49866451]It'll also mean GOP will have nigh complete control of the country.[/QUOTE] He's already promised policy contrary to the GOP and the Republicans in Congress have already openly stated that they won't work with him. I don't think the Republicans will have control of anything if he wins.
[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;49866792]and you said you're not a neocon[/QUOTE] That was sarcasm. I'm a Bernie supporter but I'm not hopelessly optimistic about him.
[QUOTE=catbarf;49867028]He's already promised policy contrary to the GOP and the Republicans in Congress have already openly stated that they won't work with him. I don't think the Republicans will have control of anything if he wins.[/QUOTE] I don't think anyone will have control of anything if he wins.
[QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;49866788]I never said Bernie would be bad, in fact I wish he could win the nominee since he seems the best suited but that isn't going to be the case. I'm talking about his fanatical supporters who claim they will vote for Trump simply because Bernie lost.[/QUOTE] Oh yeah duh, Im dumb
If Donald gets in the white house and republicans don't work with him despite having FOUR YEARS to push a conservative agenda...then they've really fucked themselves in the eyes of the voters. None of the congress republicans will find themselves back in office if they pull a stunt like that. Donald has forced their hand, work with him or be left behind.
It's also the fact that a lot of people are content with either winning. They don't care if it's bernie or hillary, just want a democrat. [editline]4th March 2016[/editline] You really don't see the schisms that you do in the republican party within the democratic party as well. the people can watch hillary and bernie swing it out all day if they want. it's not a matter of OMG HILLARY SUCKS or OMG BERNIES A SOCIALIST!! it's a matter of "Whoa they're both talking about the real issues, i don't care who wins!"
This election is Trump's to lose. While I know those republican numbers are divided up among all the candidates, I think a lot of them will rally behind whomever wins the nomination and right now it's very unlikely Cruz or Rubio will win the nomination. All I know is I will not vote for Clinton. I'll either write in Bernie or vote for Jill Stein.
[QUOTE=Inspector Jones;49867184]This election is Trump's to lose. While I know those republican numbers are divided up among all the candidates, I think a lot of them will rally behind whomever wins the nomination and right now it's very unlikely Cruz or Rubio will win the nomination. All I know is I will not vote for Clinton. I'll either write in Bernie or vote for Jill Stein.[/QUOTE] So you're voting for Trump.
[QUOTE=Anders118;49859951]You people are idiots if you think Trump will defeat Hillary in the 2016 election. TOXX ME UP BITCHES! :toxx:[/QUOTE] I don't think Hilary is going to beat Trump, many of Sanders supporters won't vote in someone who represents the establishment. I'd wager that a decent number of Sanders supporters would even vote for Trump instead for that reason alone.
[QUOTE=Da Bomb76;49867187]So you're voting for Trump.[/QUOTE] I love this mentality. It's why Bernie is having such a hard time against the establishment. Keep being the perfect little pawn they know you will always be regardless if they listen to you or not.
[QUOTE=Lamar;49867229]I'd wager that a decent number of Sanders supporters would even vote for Trump instead for that reason alone.[/QUOTE] They're a very, very vocal minority on an internet forum. If Sanders loses the nomination in July, we have 5 months of Trump headlines/ramping up his attacks & rhetoric, and for Hillary to create a professional campaign to discredit him (especially in the eyes of modeates). Nobody will still be so emotional over Sanders half a year later that they'd vote for Trump out of spite.
I think it's on the candidate to inspire voters to get out and vote, and I'm not just going to vote for Hillary because she has a (D) next to her name. I don't like her as a candidate, voting for her will only send the opposite message and ensure that more candidates like her will run in future elections. I'd rather Trump crush Hillary if it forced the Democrats to be more progressive, but that doesn't mean I'm voting for Trump.
[QUOTE=Lamar;49867229]I don't think Hilary is going to beat Trump, many of Sanders supporters won't vote in someone who represents the establishment. I'd wager that a decent number of Sanders supporters would even vote for Trump instead for that reason alone.[/QUOTE] Well then that would mean those Sanders supporters clearly don't give two shits about anything Sanders represents, if they could easily support Trump and not the candidate who has a majority of the same values.
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;49867269]I love this mentality. It's why Bernie is having such a hard time against the establishment. Keep being the perfect little pawn they know you will always be regardless if they listen to you or not.[/QUOTE] Making a rational determination of which choice will better impact the nation makes me a "pawn"?
[QUOTE=Da Bomb76;49867187]So you're voting for Trump.[/QUOTE] fuck off with this tactical voting mindset people that spout this shit that you're spouting are the reason we're stuck in this abhorrently broken two party system in the first place [B][I]vote for who you agree with[/I][/B]
[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;49867334]fuck off with this tactical voting mindset people that spout this shit that you're spouting are the reason we're stuck in this abhorrently broken two party system in the first place [B][I]vote for who you agree with[/I][/B][/QUOTE] Doesn't make any sense. Imagine you can press 1 of 3 buttons. Button 1 says it will give you $1,000,000 but in reality it doesn't work. Button 2 will give you $100. Button 3 will cause a boxing glove to come out of the wall and hit you in the face. Does it make sense to press button 1 just because "geeze, I'd sure love to have $1,000,000!!!"?
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