Watch_Dogs torrent secretly installing a Bitcoin miner on thousands of computers
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Actually no, even food products have tests from time to time. Pretty frequently actually. They're called [I]samples[/I].
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[QUOTE=ilikecorn;44905213]And they wouldn't make any either. Thus leading them to stop doing what they're doing.[/QUOTE]
But they wouldn't have made that money if the person hadn't pirated (if we are still going with the idea of pirates who never would buy it). If a developer/publisher goes out of business because they aren't making money due to the number of people pirating their games they have no to blame but themselves.
As a lot of people have said in this thread, even hardcore piraters will buy things that they like and interest them. Even if not to support the developers just for the ease of use.
[QUOTE=Egevened;44903453]lol at the people in this thread that view piracy like it's the lowest of the low
you try working a bit above minimum wage, maybe in a country where the euro-local currency rates are bad, and not ask your parents to buy video games for you
see how many games can you easily get on steam[/QUOTE]
games are a luxury...
yeah it sucks to not be able to afford a video game but that's because [b]they are not a necessity[/b].
Just as you can't afford a nice car, or a nice house, or super duper amazing designer clothes~~, games are a luxury all the same that you [b]have no entitlement to.[/b]
Personally these days what I do is I just buy what I'm really interested in and really want to support the people who made it.
If I just don't have that much interest I just don't bother with it, not that I don't understand that people wouldn't want to try out the game or what have you.
That aside, this kind of thing happening isn't much of a surprise, there's always people willing to take advantage of a situation as ripe as a whole bunch of people waiting for a leak to be uploaded.
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;44905248]I'd be all for something like this. Something that lets you play for like 25% of the game. That way you can say "damn this thing is a piece of shit" and get a refund.[/QUOTE]
Skipping the refund part, you mean, like a demo? :v:
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;44905248]I'd be all for something like this. Something that lets you play for like 25% of the game. That way you can say "damn this thing is a piece of shit" and get a refund.[/QUOTE]
Even simpler than that with things like steam, just allow a full return and refund within the first hour or so of playing. IMO if you play a game for an hour you will have noticed if there is any reason to return it.
The 15 minute window on Android apps seems to work nicely.
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;44905261]Haha yes it is. You have to spend 400+ dollars to even start enjoying said entertainment. Video games are a form of entertainment with an extremely high cost of entry.[/QUOTE]
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"Luxury"[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;44905248]I'd be all for something like this. Something that lets you play for like 25% of the game. That way you can say "damn this thing is a piece of shit" and get a refund.[/QUOTE]
You do realize that is the exact same fucking thing as pirating a game, playing it for an hour and going "nah fuck this" and uninstalling, right
I think everyone here is forgetting that people are gaining access to something without paying for it when the only way to acquire it legally is to purchase it.
You can go around and around with your "but it's a COPY" and "it's not a LOST SALE because I never would have bought it in the first place!" but in the end you are gaining access to something you don't have the rights to gain access to.
Games are not and have never been an entitlement. There is no justification for taking something you want simply because you want it and don't want to pay the price for it.
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[QUOTE=RichyZ;44905269]the poor people thing isn't much of an argument because piracy from poor people won't affect the studios at all, since they couldnt afford the game in the first place
(believe it or not, poor people can get their hands on last-gen consoles and mid-tier pcs for really cheap!)[/QUOTE]
except companies have no obligation to support poor people, or any other person for that matter. Yeah, it sucks that someone can't afford a game, and tbh I don't think someone should go to jail over pirating something, but you can't say it's morally right. Poor people don't suddenly get free access to, say, sporting events they can't afford just because they can't afford it.
[QUOTE=Egevened;44903453]lol at the people in this thread that view piracy like it's the lowest of the low
you try working a bit above minimum wage, maybe in a country where the euro-local currency rates are bad, and not ask your parents to buy video games for you
[B]see how many games can you easily get on steam[/B][/QUOTE]
Assuming you have bearable internet with no/large caps, [URL="http://store.steampowered.com/genre/Free%20to%20Play"]these[/URL] and [URL="http://store.steampowered.com/browse/ut2"]these[/URL]?
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;44905264]"Luxury"[/QUOTE]
Where is the argument here? Just because you dislike the games means they're not a luxury?
Or do you perhaps need these two games so desperately that you'd die without them?
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;44905280]Except with this there i'm not committing a crime. You know.. that whole.. legal system thing.[/QUOTE]
Are you for real
A book says "don't download" and you flip shit over people who do for the [I]exact same reason[/I] that you suggested yourself ONLY because "uh illegal".
Not a moral thing? Nothing to do with "it's rude to the developers" or anything like that? It's just "uh, illegal"?
fucking hell
Didn't know so many people here thought that being poor is a justifiable reason for stealing.
I'm out of this thread, this is so filled with disgusting hypocrisy, I can't stand it
bye
This is amusing to read
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;44905342]Are you for real
A book says "don't download" and you flip shit over people who do for the [I]exact same reason[/I] that you suggested yourself ONLY because "uh illegal".
Not a moral thing? Nothing to do with "it's rude to the developers" or anything like that? It's just "uh, illegal"?
fucking hell[/QUOTE]
If developers were to provide a legal manner to do this it would be within the developer's permission that you can do said thing, thus not immoral.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;44905377]except its a victim-less crime, being poor doesn't excuse you from stealing somebody's money because they lose money, pirating a game takes nothing from the publisher and allows someone to be happier for it.[/QUOTE]
While it's victimless, one has to respect the creator of the art/content, and not doing so is immoral.
Demo's would solve a lot of these problems.
Too bad, for some reason, demo's became extinct. And now we can't benchmark new games.
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;44905213]And they wouldn't make any either. Thus leading them to stop doing what they're doing.[/QUOTE]
But they would not lose a dollar.
[QUOTE=Drury;44905411]But they would not lose a dollar.[/QUOTE]
Except for the millions of dollars going into the creation of said game????
They would lose those anyway.
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;44905264].[/QUOTE]
A luxury is not something particularly good or pricey in economic terms. A luxury is an expense on a good that is a non-necessity, like soft drinks or high-end dining.
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;44903664]Or he could wait until he has enough money to actually buy the game...[/QUOTE]
Someone who doesn't have much money but has a computer with internet connection and wants to enjoy a game isn't gonna sacrifice 40 dollars of his precious money for some garbage moral reason.
[QUOTE=KandyMan;44905353]This is amusing to read[/QUOTE]
I'm having a blast for sure.
[QUOTE=MR2;44905462]Someone who doesn't have much money but has a computer with internet connection and wants to enjoy a game isn't gonna sacrifice 40 dollars of his precious money for some garbage moral reason.[/QUOTE]
Then s/he could buy a $5 game maybe? Most games drop a lot in price after a few years, and they're still great. DoW is currently €3.59 on Steam, that's pretty cheap. MDII TW can often be had for €5 or thereabouts as well, and it's still a better game than the new ones.
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;44903736]There's a myriad of other games -- which aren't overhyped 60$ AAA productions -- that people can buy too... there's even free games.[/QUOTE]
But if the person wasn't gonna buy the game anyway because they're poor, pirating makes really no difference. They were never gonna get that sale. And again, nobody who really wants to play a specific game but can't afford it is gonna stop pirating it or is gonna play another game because of meaningless moral reasons.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;44903765] If you don't support them, do not buy the game. This does not give you an excuse to pirate and play it anyway though.[/QUOTE]
Your mistake is thinking that pirates care about giving anyone excuses or moral justifications, "60€ for a game haha fuck off" is all they're ever gonna need to say.
i've never gotten the point in trying to justify pirating. not that i am against pirating, i just don't see the point in putting effort into trying to make it seem like the moral thing to do.
[QUOTE=RautaPalli;44905347]Didn't know so many people here thought that being poor is a justifiable reason for stealing.[/QUOTE]
inb4 copying is not theft video gets posted
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