Watch_Dogs torrent secretly installing a Bitcoin miner on thousands of computers - Polidicks

My boyfriend is sitting across from me playing a pirated copy When should I tell him

Kick him out of the house and claim the relationship is over.

[QUOTE=Toyhobo;44903370]But rather than stealing a physical object from them you still steal potential money from the creators. Also there has to be a original prototype to every car, I'll just steal those that aren't the prototype, they're just copies of that car after all. See? same fucking logic. It doesn't work that way.[/QUOTE] you can't steal potential money you dingus

[QUOTE=Ruisu;44903293]Pretty sure the actual reason people pirate is because they dont feel like paying money for things, not sure what other reason there could be???[/QUOTE] Some pirate something that they already bought simply to remove the DRM. Some pirate to re-obtain something they already bought. Some pirate to try products before they make a financial commitment to them. Some pirate simply because they cannot afford it. Some pirate to get something that's no longer available. Some pirate because their country censors or doesn't import it. Some pirate from companies that they feel don't deserve their money

[QUOTE=Atlascore;44904160]So what? You're still taking something that took millions of dollars and work hours to make for free, which is a dick move.[/QUOTE] Oh no! I STEAL those milions of dollars and HOURS of hard work when i dl a 4 gb file?! What have i been doing?! I must have made people lose trillions of dollars and YEARS of hard work!! Oh fuck i am so sorry for some studio Ubisoft/EA/anyone else bought and ran it into the ground, milking them for more money. I'm sorry everyone.

I can safely say that watch_dogs was one of the worst games that I've ever had the misfortune of playing on my PS3 when it was leaked to torrents. Like, not even bragging here, I could not find a single redeemable thing about it except for the fact that the hacking was fun for about an hour but then even that got kind of repetitive.

[QUOTE=Amic;44904180]Oh no! I STEAL those milions of dollands and HOURS of hard work when i dl a 4 gb file?! What have i been doing?! I must have made people lose trillions of dollars and YEARS of hard work!! Oh fuck i am so sorry for some studio Ubisoft/EA/anyone else bought and ran it into the ground, milking them for more money. I'm sorry everyone.[/QUOTE] I don't get this reasoning. If you think the games, developers and publishers are [I]so bad[/I], why do you want to pirate the stuff in the first place?

[QUOTE=Egevened;44903954]When I'm clicking the download button on a torrent, I will think of itisjuly, laying in my chair, wondering about the meaning of his words. As the seeds appear, I will whisper - [i]I am poor.[/i][/QUOTE] [QUOTE=itisjuly;44903961]While you do that, imagine me in a nazi uniform or something, oppressing the poor.[/QUOTE] All I can think of while reading you two post is this [t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/75932127/Images/lolpiracy%20comic.png[/t] (sorry i am incapable of drawing straight lines)

[QUOTE=spanaren;44904212]I don't get this reasoning. If you think the games, developers and publishers are [I]so bad[/I], why do you want to pirate the stuff in the first place?[/QUOTE] [quote]If you think the games, developers are [I]so bad[/I][/quote] citation needed EDIT: Just because all of you still can't see my point. I don't hate on developers, i hate on EA/Ubisoft/etc. because they evetually buy a good studio and then milk them for money. Those developers make money anyways. I really think you are all just dumb when you defend them, piracy doesn't make harm to developers, it does harm to those assholes and it's good imo. [thumb]http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/0/2610/2161667-zFrTB.jpg[/thumb]

[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;44903266]LOL that's the dumbest excuse for pirating ever[/QUOTE] yet still its a legitimate reason for why people pirate not everyone is in the "oh i pirate to see if i like it" camp

[QUOTE=ScottyWired;44903216]suck shit for pirating[/QUOTE] Some people do it for completely legit reasons that don't have to do with getting the game for free, such as, How far did the developer pull the wool over our eyes to try and secure $60 from everyone, Will it even run worth a shit on my machine even though I meet the requirements, or will I like the gameplay enough to warrant it? A simple demo from the Devs would be nice. If I ran a big company like EA, Every single game would have a demo put out of the build that's being shipped as it's being printed. It's courtesy and a service to the customers without pure snake oil marketing while also putting a little Oomph into quality control to make sure that it doesn't release in a shitty state like BF4 did, since people will be onto it before the release. And if the share holders of said company don't like it, they can eat a dick and give me my multi-million dollar severance package. At least I did something good Anyway, I don't fault people for pirating a game for those reasons. I kind of hope leaks happen more often. The whole 'Release Now Finish Later' deal is getting old and almost out of hand and this would do some good in turning that around

[QUOTE=ScottyWired;44903863]I didn't pirate when I didn't have a job, I don't pirate now that I do. Even with the job my money is tight so I save my pennies and wait for the sales and humble bundles. Sometimes I pool with friends to buy those four-packs on Steam so we all save a bit of dosh. I'm quite happy sitting on this ethical equine thanks.[/QUOTE] So you're accuseing us jews for pirating? [B]YOU'RE AN ANTI-SEMITIC!!!!!!!!!!!![/B] [highlight](User was permabanned for this post ("gimmick" - Orkel))[/highlight]

So many bans, this discussion is a minefield Most people who pirate are broke ass teenagers with no jobs that just want to play vidja all day Like me and proably most of FP, but I play tf2 so its all good

It's kind of weird the perp that made the fake torrent would use a CPU mining virus for bitcoin because it would make him almost no money, even if he had several thousand machines mining it. The difficulty is well over 10 billion and it solely in ASIC farm territory now. Even if he had a GPU mining virus instead, the profit would be barely worth mentioning. If he was smart, he would have mined some altcoin with a lower difficulty and converted it on an exchange.

[QUOTE=GiGaBiTe;44904383]It's kind of weird the perp that made the fake torrent would use a CPU mining virus for bitcoin because it would make him almost no money, even if he had several thousand machines mining it. The difficulty is well over 10 billion and it solely in ASIC farm territory now. Even if he had a GPU mining virus instead, the profit would be barely worth mentioning. If he was smart, he would have mined some altcoin with a lower difficulty and converted it on an exchange.[/QUOTE] Hell, even dogecoin would be more profitable to be honest.

[QUOTE=Coyoteze;44904407]Hell, even dogecoin would be more profitable to be honest.[/QUOTE] So then it really would become Watch Doge... Bleck

[QUOTE=TheTalon;44904276]A simple demo from the Devs would be nice. If I ran a big company like EA, Every single game would have a demo put out of the build that's being shipped as it's being printed. It's courtesy and a service to the customers without pure snake oil marketing while also putting a little Oomph into quality control to make sure that it doesn't release in a shitty state like BF4 did, since people will be onto it before the release[/QUOTE] A demo isn't something that you can shit out in an afternoon though, particularly with an open world game like Watch Dogs. You have to put a fair amount of expense into removing content, restricting gameplay elements, getting it quality assured, and passing it through certification. If it's a demo for a multiplayer game, you then also have to factor in server costs and maintenance. Furthermore, much like what happened with BF4, the vertical slice that you provide may not accurately represent what the final product ends up being, and that lands you in even more shit than if you hadn't bothered. So in the vast majority of cases producing a demo is, unfortunately, just not worth it for developers.

This reminds me of Lostboy.exe where the download included a backdoor RAT file.

This thread has the stupidest argument. At the end of the day, if you pirate something and keep it forever, you're still a twat and have no excuse and deserve anything wrong that happens to you, whether it be a notice from your ISP or a bitcoin miner that destroys your PC. You have better things to worry about, too, if you do it because you're "poor". Get a job, kiddies.

[QUOTE=Wiggles;44904470]A demo isn't something that you can shit out in an afternoon though, particularly with an open world game like Watch Dogs. You have to put a fair amount of expense into removing content, restricting gameplay elements, getting it quality assured, and passing it through certification. If it's a demo for a multiplayer game, you then also have to factor in server costs and maintenance. Furthermore, much like what happened with BF4, the vertical slice that you provide may not accurately represent what the final product ends up being, and that lands you in even more shit than if you hadn't bothered. So in the vast majority of cases producing a demo is, unfortunately, just not worth it for developers.[/QUOTE] Not saying a demo doesn't take a bit of effort, but it takes no more effort than making rehearsed demos for two years

[QUOTE=Egevened;44903908]I will never understand people like this do you really view minimum wage workers as subhumans who are incapable of playing video games[/QUOTE] yeah I totally said minimum wage workers are subhuman People need to seriously stop with instantly assuming things so quickly [QUOTE=Egevened;44903921]uh the part where he says that if you work minimum wage you have bigger issues on your hand than playing video games??? it's like saying "haha oh wow you're not working hard enough to deserve this privilege"[/QUOTE] What i was saying is that you should worry about other issues, not that you're subhuman, you're assuming off the bat I'm saying its the person that has the issues. it's not at all "Hahaha you aren't working hard enough" its "yeah that sucks but you should worry about bigger issues first", being poor doesn't mean you get to just pirate, because you have bigger issues, like working a shitty underpaid job, and yeah, you do have bigger issues, its not your fault, but you have to work with what you get. just get it on sale if it means that much, its what I do anyways. [QUOTE=mchapra;44903922]But hypothetically, level with me here, what if I make just enough to pay the bills and put enough food on the table but not enough to get something I really want to because publishers overprice their games? [editline]a[/editline] Btw that's actually what happens to me 90% of the time.[/QUOTE] 40 dollars isn't overpricing, but its still too pricey for many. it's also always been 60$ as far as I can tell you know, there's no overpricing here, it's just that minimum wage is absolute shit and no one can actually truly live off it. Sadly, they won't capitalize on a bad economy by making their games more affordable thus getting more sales. [QUOTE=Wiggles;44904470]A demo isn't something that you can shit out in an afternoon though, particularly with an open world game like Watch Dogs. You have to put a fair amount of expense into removing content, restricting gameplay elements, getting it quality assured, and passing it through certification. If it's a demo for a multiplayer game, you then also have to factor in server costs and maintenance. Furthermore, much like what happened with BF4, the vertical slice that you provide may not accurately represent what the final product ends up being, and that lands you in even more shit than if you hadn't bothered. So in the vast majority of cases producing a demo is, unfortunately, just not worth it for developers.[/QUOTE] Just cause 2 had the best demo I've ever seen if its open world, cut it to 25% of the map and restrict to side missions only in that area, so you get a low amount of content but tons of free reign.

[QUOTE=GiGaBiTe;44904383]It's kind of weird the perp that made the fake torrent would use a CPU mining virus for bitcoin because it would make him almost no money, even if he had several thousand machines mining it. The difficulty is well over 10 billion and it solely in ASIC farm territory now. Even if he had a GPU mining virus instead, the profit would be barely worth mentioning. If he was smart, he would have mined some altcoin with a lower difficulty and converted it on an exchange.[/QUOTE] Look at the image again. [quote]ltc.exe[/quote] I doubt he was stupid enough to mine btc.

Pricing is always going to be difficult to get a balance between profit and sales, particularly in poorer parts of the world or in places where prices are grossly inflated (Australia), personally I would like to see more pay what you want schemes like the Humble Bundle which has been largely successful, of course some are going to pay the absolute minimum but at least it's being sold for some revenue rather than pirated.

[QUOTE=Recco;44904176]Some pirate something that they already bought simply to remove the DRM. Some pirate to re-obtain something they already bought. Some pirate to try products before they make a financial commitment to them. Some pirate simply because they cannot afford it. Some pirate to get something that's no longer available. Some pirate because their country censors or doesn't import it. Some pirate from companies that they feel don't deserve their money[/QUOTE] Some pirate because they lost their own,legit CD-Key. Some pirate because they are too lazy to find their own legit copy in their mess of a room. I'm guilty of both. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("You won't banned for warez/leaks unless: •You openly declare or brag about it" - Orkel))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=Zotobom;44904556]Some pirate because they lost their own,legit CD-Key. Some pirate because they are too lazy to find their own legit copy in their mess of a room. I'm guilty of both.[/QUOTE] and that's why I love steam so much :v:

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/MVTrk1V.png[/IMG]

[QUOTE=SenhorCreeper;44904572][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/MVTrk1V.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] Ubisoft is known to be shit at optimization in games but it can't be THAT bad can it?

[QUOTE=SenhorCreeper;44904572][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/MVTrk1V.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] lmao bullshit I ran it at the highest possible settings given in 1920x1080 without a problem using a XFX7950 - one that's BREAKING nonetheless. (ASSUMING I read that right. I might've misunderstood, but by "single GPU" I assume he means "one card" instead of "dual GPU" etc.)

[QUOTE=SenhorCreeper;44904572][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/MVTrk1V.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] Holy shit that's a lot of memory usage. I hope it doesn't end up like another GTA IV.

[QUOTE=TheTalon;44904504]Not saying a demo doesn't take a bit of effort, but it takes no more effort than making rehearsed demos for two years[/QUOTE] Except that it does, because with a rehearsed demo you only have to show what you want to show, but with a release demo you're putting the game into the hands of people who are expecting a finished product so everything has to work flawlessly. I would argue having a buggy demo would be worse than having no demo at all.