Watch_Dogs torrent secretly installing a Bitcoin miner on thousands of computers - Polidicks

[QUOTE=SenhorCreeper;44904572][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/MVTrk1V.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] He's wrong. [B]EDIT[/B] I guess I'm dumb then. :v:

[QUOTE=Coyoteze;44904584]lmao bullshit I ran it at the highest possible settings given in 1920x1080 without a problem using a XFX7950 - one that's BREAKING nonetheless.[/QUOTE] hes using the version with the bitcoin miner

[QUOTE=kwk;44904498]This thread has the stupidest argument. At the end of the day, if you pirate something and keep it forever, you're still a twat and have no excuse and deserve anything wrong that happens to you, whether it be a notice from your ISP or a bitcoin miner that destroys your PC. You have better things to worry about, too, if you do it because you're "poor". Get a job, kiddies.[/QUOTE] Hey listen to this guy, he's got authority. He's calling you all kiddies listen up, he's 100% correct [i]kiddies[/i] its that fucking easy, get a job kiddies.

I´m pretty guilty of pirating myself since i don´t have much funds, but i usually do buy the game if i do like it (and i have major plans to do so). Atleast in the NFOs is said by probably all of those crack sites: "If you like the game, support the developers and buy it". [highlight](User was banned for this post ("You won't banned for warez/leaks unless: •You openly declare or brag about it" - Orkel))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=SenhorCreeper;44904596]hes using the version with the bitcoin miner[/QUOTE] In that case, [I][B]oh[/B][/I].

haha, lots of my friends downloaded this Thank god I never torrent [img]http://facepunch.com/fp/emoot/ninja.gif[/img]

is it considered pirating if you download this game to play it early, even though you pre-ordered it on steam? i dont honestly think it is.

[QUOTE=Wii60;44904644]is it considered pirating if you download this game to play it early, even though you pre-ordered it on steam?[/QUOTE] Yes.

Jeez, some of you people. The company didn't release a demo? GET OVER IT. "Oh, I pirate only to TRY it out since there's no demo" yeah bullshit, and if you're not bullshitting congratulations you can go and join the whole 10 people who actually DO do that.

[QUOTE=Tuskin;44904648]Yes.[/QUOTE] but why though like you already paid money for the game, why can't you play it a few days early if you get the chance?

[QUOTE=kwk;44904498]This thread has the stupidest argument. At the end of the day, if you pirate something and keep it forever, you're still a twat and have no excuse and deserve anything wrong that happens to you, whether it be a notice from your ISP or a bitcoin miner that destroys your PC. You have better things to worry about, too, if you do it because you're "poor". Get a job, kiddies.[/QUOTE] Must be nice being so high up on your high horse that you can just go lol get a job, because as we all know global economies are totally back to how it used to be and there's tons of jobs everywhere.

[QUOTE=Wii60;44904664]but why though like you already paid money for the game, why can't you play it a few days early if you get the chance?[/QUOTE] Because you don't own the game. You own a license to the game, you bought a specific licensed copy of the game which does not include the illegally downloaded version.

[QUOTE=Wii60;44904664]but why though like you already paid money for the game, why can't you play it a few days early if you get the chance?[/QUOTE] Because it's not provided by the publisher, simple as that.

[QUOTE=Wii60;44904664]but why though like you already paid money for the game, why can't you play it a few days early if you get the chance?[/QUOTE] If you torrented it, the technical reason is that you also helped distribute the illegitimate version. In addition to what others mentioned above.

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;44904655]Jeez, some of you people. The company didn't release a demo? GET OVER IT. "Oh, I pirate only to TRY it out since there's no demo" yeah bullshit, and if you're not bullshitting congratulations you can go and join the whole 10 people who actually DO do that.[/QUOTE] It's really not bullshit. How else are you supposed to [I]properly [/I]find out if a game is good or bad? If there's no demo, the developer isn't exactly giving you a choice. And don't give me the "oh but lets plays/reviews/first impressions" shit. That doesn't give you the right idea of what a game is, it gives you SOMEONE ELSES idea of it. Not like a demo is too difficult to make either. Cut off a large part of the map, give the player a few of the first missions, and put it on a timer. That way the player gets enough to time experience the views, the functionality, a small part of the story (enough to make them want more), and the side-stuff.

[QUOTE=Wii60;44904664]but why though like you already paid money for the game, why can't you play it a few days early if you get the chance?[/QUOTE] No ones saying there is something wrong with that, but in the end it's still pirating cause pirating is downloading the game for free. Like when Skyrim first came out, before I bought it I pirated it the day before and put it in my steam folder so when I bought it I would have to download like 400 mbs instead of the whole game again. Nothing wrong with that obviously but it's still pirating. (I was already banned for that when I did it mods) It sounds like you just don't like hearing that you "pirated" something lol it's not a big deal though.

[QUOTE=Coyoteze;44904686]It's really not bullshit. How else are you supposed to [I]properly [/I]find out if a game is good or bad? If there's no demo, the developer isn't exactly giving you a choice. And don't give me the "oh but lets plays/reviews/first impressions" shit. That doesn't give you the right idea of what a game is, it gives you SOMEONE ELSES idea of it. Not like a demo is too difficult to make either. Cut off a large part of the map, give the player a few of the first missions, and put it on a timer. That way the player gets enough to time experience the views, the functionality, a small part of the story (enough to make them want more), and the side-stuff.[/QUOTE] You [I]properly[/I] find out if a game is good or bad by purchasing it, not illegally downloading it and hurting the publisher/creators. You also can't go around in life just stealing shit and saying "well I wanted to [i]properly[/i] find out if this juicer could juice carrots very nicely, and since it doesn't I don't feel like stealing it anymore! You're not entitled to anything including demos if a company doesn't want to release one. Get used to it. Stop breaking the law.

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;44904732]You [I]properly[/I] find out if a game is good or bad by purchasing it, not illegally downloading it and hurting the publisher/creators. You also can't go around in life just stealing shit and saying "well I wanted to [i]properly[/i] find out if this juicer could juice carrots very nicely, and since it doesn't I don't feel like stealing it anymore! You're not entitled to anything including demos if a company doesn't want to release one. Get used to it. Stop breaking the law.[/QUOTE] People should stop comparing piracy to physical theft.

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;44904732]You [I]properly[/I] find out if a game is good or bad by purchasing it, not illegally downloading it and hurting the publisher/creators. You also can't go around in life just stealing shit and saying "well I wanted to [i]properly[/i] find out if this juicer could juice carrots very nicely, and since it doesn't I don't feel like stealing it anymore! You're not entitled to anything including demos if a company doesn't want to release one. Get used to it. Stop breaking the law.[/QUOTE] While you are correct in saying a person is not entitled to a demo, simply saying "don't break the law" isn't going to work either, it has been shown time and time again that how well a company treats their players directly influences the amount of piracy, if the publisher refuses to provide basic services to players such as a demo then any loss from that is their own fault.

[QUOTE=Coyoteze;44904686]It's really not bullshit. How else are you supposed to [I]properly [/I]find out if a game is good or bad? If there's no demo, the developer isn't exactly giving you a choice. And don't give me the "oh but lets plays/reviews/first impressions" shit. That doesn't give you the right idea of what a game is, it gives you SOMEONE ELSES idea of it. Not like a demo is too difficult to make either. Cut off a large part of the map, give the player a few of the first missions, and put it on a timer. That way the player gets enough to time experience the views, the functionality, a small part of the story (enough to make them want more), and the side-stuff.[/QUOTE] Reviews/ lets plays/ whatever work perfectly fine for an opinion on the game [B]so long[/B] as you use multiple sources. That way you can construct a fairly strong idea of what the game should be like based on how people with various personalities, agendas, preferences, rigs, etc. have felt about the game. You aggregate their opinions, see where they overlap, see where they differ based on preference, this gives you a fairly solid method of saying "yeah, this game is worth my money". We do it with films, stage shows, TV and music, why are video games exempt from this for some reason? There is no reason to pirate a game. Can't afford it? Well, that sucks but games are a luxury you have to forgo sometimes, I know I've had to miss tons of games recently due to no income. Want a demo? Demos aren't exactly great representations of the finished product most times, so use reviews as mentioned earlier. Don't like the publisher? Don't punish the developer by pirating their game and cutting into their bottom line. Don't like the developer? Don't pirate the fucking game then. Think it's overpriced? Piracy isn't going to convince the publisher to fix this, they'll just impose more restrictions of those of us who aren't stealing their shit (rightfully so, they're the victims in this case). The whole "well I'm just making a copy!!!!" argument is also very flawed, yes you're making a copy, so they aren't losing any produce, but if the ability to do so was non-existent, how many people would be buying the game instead of pirating because they think they're entitled to this entertainment? When they say "lost profits", that is what they refer to. The number of people who are pirating a game because they can, even if they would have bought it.

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;44904732]You [I]properly[/I] find out if a game is good or bad by purchasing it, not illegally downloading it and hurting the publisher/creators. You also can't go around in life just stealing shit and saying "well I wanted to [i]properly[/i] find out if this juicer could juice carrots very nicely, and since it doesn't I don't feel like stealing it anymore! You're not entitled to anything including demos if a company doesn't want to release one. Get used to it. Stop breaking the law.[/QUOTE] So when you buy a game for say 60 dollars, and you play it and think it's shit, not a SINGLE part of you says "golly gee I wish there'd been a way to find this out beforehand so I hadn't wasted my money"? I'm talking people who download a game, test it out for an hour, then uninstall it. If they like it, they buy it. If I don't, whatever. People who pirate just to spite a developer, or people who finish a pirated game, like it, and don't pay for it even later on when they CAN on the other hand should get fucked.

[QUOTE=Amic;44904793]People should stop comparing piracy to physical theft.[/QUOTE] Why? You're taking someone else's work without reimbursing them. That's the main crux of theft. Taking shit without permission or reimbursement.

[QUOTE=Chryseus;44904837]While you are correct in saying a person is not entitled to a demo, simply saying "don't break the law" isn't going to work either, it has been shown time and time again that how well a company treats their players directly influences the amount of piracy,[B] if the publisher refuses to provide basic services to players such as a demo then any loss from that is their own fault[/B].[/QUOTE] There's the entitlement thing again. It's their product and it's well within their rights to do whatever they want with it. Also, I don't think the main driving force behind piracy is "MUH DEMOS" as much as it is "I don't want to pay the money for this product so I'll just steal it instead".

[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;44903266]LOL that's the dumbest excuse for pirating ever[/QUOTE] not really lol if I see a game that I know I will not buy at the price I see it at, ever, yet I would play if it was gifted to me over steam or something, that's a great time to pirate. Also people who don't have credit cards. [highlight](User was permabanned for this post ("alt of perma'd user" - Orkel))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=I'm invisible;44904871]not really lol if I see a game that I know I will not buy at the price I see it at, ever, yet I would play if it was gifted to me over steam or something, that's a great time to pirate. Also people who don't have credit cards.[/QUOTE] They are both absolutely awful reasons to pirate a game, causing legitimate customers to get fucked over with stupidly implemented DRM later down the line. You don't have a credit card? Buy a cash card (VISA cards are available, Steam gift cards, etc.). That's not an excuse. You know you won't buy the game at the advertised price? No matter the price? Then you probably don't give enough of a shit about the game, so why pirate it? If you'd only play it because it was free, then you must not actually want the game.

[QUOTE=Bruhmis;44903300]stealing physical goods causes the company to lose money. choosing not to buy a game doesn't. there's a big difference. we're also talking about a company that has released unplayable port after unplayable port for neigh on a decade, and gone on to claim that PC isn't a relevant platform because statistically 90% of its users only play pirated games. they were too dumb and too lazy to make decent PC products then got mad when nobody bought them and tried to fuck over the PC community by discouraging other developers from making PC products. please give me one reason why anybody should give a single dollar to a company which is by all accounts the scum of the gaming industry[/QUOTE] I think it mostly takes a toll on publishers. They refuse to approach innovative ideas because they fear that it won't sell well. They often tell the developer to scrap it for a generic idea that sells well.

Oh shit.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;44904852]Reviews/ lets plays/ whatever work perfectly fine for an opinion on the game [B]so long[/B] as you use multiple sources. That way you can construct a fairly strong idea of what the game should be like based on how people with various personalities, agendas, preferences, rigs, etc. have felt about the game. You aggregate their opinions, see where they overlap, see where they differ based on preference, this gives you a fairly solid method of saying "yeah, this game is worth my money". We do it with films, stage shows, TV and music, why are video games exempt from this for some reason? There is no reason to pirate a game. Can't afford it? Well, that sucks but games are a luxury you have to forgo sometimes, I know I've had to miss tons of games recently due to no income. Want a demo? Demos aren't exactly great representations of the finished product most times, so use reviews as mentioned earlier. Don't like the publisher? Don't punish the developer by pirating their game and cutting into their bottom line. Don't like the developer? Don't pirate the fucking game then. Think it's overpriced? Piracy isn't going to convince the publisher to fix this, they'll just impose more restrictions of those of us who aren't stealing their shit (rightfully so, they're the victims in this case). The whole "well I'm just making a copy!!!!" argument is also very flawed, yes you're making a copy, so they aren't losing any produce, but if the ability to do so was non-existent, how many people would be buying the game instead of pirating because they think they're entitled to this entertainment? When they say "lost profits", that is what they refer to. The number of people who are pirating a game because they can, even if they would have bought it.[/QUOTE] They never do to me. I watched a bundle of Let's Players (Nerdcubed, PewDiePie, Markiplier, Yogscast AND 2BFP) and reviews of GTA 5 both from good sources (mostly Swedish ones, directly from magazines) before I got to properly play it myself and my impression of it was "meh". When I tried my own hands on it at a friends place, I thought it was awesome. Watching OTHER PEOPLE react to or enjoying a game doesn't do it for me. It doesn't give me a FIRST PERSON hand at the game, and that's what I need to form a proper opinion. The amount of times I've seen a game look "awesome" when others play it only to be disappointed when I did so myself is overwhelming. As for all your other arguments, I'm not advocating any piracy other than "to try" the product. Anyone else, as I've said in my previous post, has no reason to pirate. Can't afford it, you should save up. Don't like the dev, don't play the game. Etc. etc. People who TRY the game for an hour because there isn't a viable way to try it otherwise, are in my opinion perfectly right to do so - as long as they don't FINISH the game or otherwise spend too much time on it repeatedly. JUST enough to get their own impression of it. Look at it this way, a person sees a game but never intends to buy it because he's not convinced of it. He pirates it, and enjoys it, so he goes out and buys it. The developer has now earned a sale. He pirates it, and doesn't enjoy it, so he uninstalls it and goes on with his day. The developer has not earned or lost anything. You're basically saying "People should always pay for a game if they're uncertain if they'll like it or not". It's rude, and flat out stupid.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;44904855]Why? You're taking someone else's work without reimbursing them. That's the main crux of theft. Taking shit without permission or reimbursement.[/QUOTE] The thing is, you don't take shit in person. You don't take a car and someone else now misses it. You don't go to a store and steal the money in the cash. The original copy is still there, and with physical theft, well it isn't.

[QUOTE=SenhorCreeper;44904572][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/MVTrk1V.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] You could think that Ubisoft optimized it only for the Titan because of half-assyness and to make the impression of it being a demanding, visually groundbreaking game which would totally be the reason why it only runs good on titans.