• NSA Monitors Porn to Shame Dissidents
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[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;42998327]But as long as you don't do anything wrong, you have nothing to fear! They might be keeping records of what you buy, who you talk to and about what, where do you go and what you do there, what you watch, listen to, or read, what you cook and eat, drink, what's your living is like, what's your brand preference, and they might even know what do you wank to; in the time of hoping for utmost forgiving privacy with yourself and your embarrassing needs, but there's only just a handful, or maybe just few hundred or maybe thousand people who have access to that data! And even then they are all government employees, every single one of them to be absolutely trusted, of course... aside of the government contractors and technology workers. And probably all the hackers who unavoidably will gain access to the data either by proxy of one of the legit employees or by getting into the system itself here and there, but EVEN THEN There's nothing to be worried about. I for one am glad that if there's going to be another Osama Bin Laden, following a terrorist attack with death toll of thousands they will be able to immediately retailate by shame him using the expert knowledge of his fondness for lucky star genderbent shota gangbang. I actually suddenly feel completely safe. And so should you.[/QUOTE] I bet you get off of people watching you
Dear NSA please for your own psychical health don't look into the average /d/ users porn.
This is some Stasi shit, man [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stasi#Zersetzung[/url]
[QUOTE=proch;42998961]Dear NSA please for your own psychical health don't look into the average /d/ users porn.[/QUOTE] I have three words. Shitting dick nipples.
"Sir, I have critical intel on the radical group. A few of their most infamous members browse websites dedicated to Japanese cartoon pornography." "Good job Johnson you saved America."
Do it, see if I care big brother.
Protecting global freedom
[QUOTE=proch;42998961]Dear NSA please for your own psychical health don't look into the average /d/ users porn.[/QUOTE] No do it, they all might die of insanity. Then nobody will be left to run the NSA and we'll win by default.
Great, now I can setup my idea of a dating website called NSApartner4u which automaticly assigns someone to you according to the matching preferences.
Oh shit now they know I like girls. Whatever shall I do.
[QUOTE=catbarf;42998436]That was a [url=http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/06/11/let_the_smearing_of_edward_snowden_begin]news agency that exploited it[/url], you have to be dense to blame it on the government.[/QUOTE] And you think NSA didn't want and expect just that to happen?
[QUOTE=mchapra;42998380]It's like a high school bitch fight I can't wait till the NSA says Snowden was totally sleeping with mongolia that slut[/QUOTE] snowy fucked putin!!!!
[QUOTE=GoldenGnome;43000804]snowy fucked putin!!!![/QUOTE] Snowden put it in Putin [I]I'll get my coat...[/I]
I think this particular program was not created to bully and attack dissidents (although if they can pull that off they'll do it). I think it was a way to get funding out of the secret NSA budget for browsing porn for years on end. Whoever got this program past the noses of the bureaucrats, I applaud you, sir. :v:
This is fucking exactly what the fuck I have always been worried about with them watching me. All you fucking people out there who always call me crazy for being paranoid about the NSA THIS IS EXACTLY WHY it's not because I am a criminal, its because I believe that the government will use it's power to coerce me to think/vote a certain way and that is WRONG! I don't care what the implications of this post are, it doesn't matter at all. This is flat out wrong.
[QUOTE=frozensoda;43000928]This is fucking exactly what the fuck I have always been worried about with them watching me. All you fucking people out there who always call me crazy for being paranoid about the NSA THIS IS EXACTLY WHY it's not because I am a criminal, its because I believe that the government will use it's power to coerce me to think/vote a certain way and that is WRONG! I don't care what the implications of this post are, it doesn't matter at all. This is flat out wrong.[/QUOTE] The idea of NSA literally spying on your porn habits sounds like a joke. You're still crazy.
[QUOTE=Durrsly;43001465]The idea of NSA literally spying on your porn habits sounds like a joke. You're still crazy.[/QUOTE] That doesn't make the NSA any more in the right though. Under no circumstances should they be allowed the power to invade peoples' privacy to this degree.
Jesus. Some of the justifications people give to shit like this are just really scary. And I'm assuming most of you are pretty young (since that's the demographic of this website). There's no hope. Nothing that gets released will make americans get out of their asses and do anything. Enjoy what your life will be like in 20 years and remember that you didn't do anything to stop it. gl hf
Will the NSA put me in a watchlist now if I have a thing for Arabic women?
[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;43002071]Will the NSA put me in a watchlist now if I have a thing for Arabic women?[/QUOTE] sexy_Arabic_milfs_unveiled.avi
[QUOTE=adnzzzzZ;42998656]How can you be that dense? It has been shown in previous news that they've been tracking Obama since 2004 and Merkel way before she was chancellor. Do you really believe they haven't used stuff like this domestically? Stop being so fucking naive.[/QUOTE] Yeah man you should be terrified of drones, the president allowed a drone strike on some insurgents in Yemen so [I]obviously[/I] they're also being used on political dissidents within the US, stop being so fucking naive Or in less snarky terms, citation needed. The fact that six ([I]six[/I]) non-US people have been blackmailed by a US spy agency is unsurprising and really doesn't imply that they do it to Americans as well. [I]Everybody[/I] uses blackmail. Do you really think the NSA is the first spy agency to do so? And if not, where's the paranoid hand-wringing about all the other spy agencies in the world blackmailing their own citizens? Like if the article were a document that showed that the NSA was gathering data on Americans and using it towards political goals by blackmailing Americans then [I]holy shit[/I] that would be reason to march in the streets. But instead the headline is 'American spy agency spies on six non-Americans' and the peanut gallery is looking for new and creative hyperbolic extremes. [QUOTE=Falchion;43000364]And you think NSA didn't want and expect just that to happen?[/QUOTE] So the NSA intentionally smeared Snowden when a completely unrelated news agency looked into Snowden's personal life and used it to make a headline, because it seems beneficial to them. So it's their fault, even though someone else did it, because it helps their case (somehow?). You want to run that by me again?
[QUOTE=catbarf;43002221]Yeah man you should be terrified of drones, the president allowed a drone strike on some insurgents in Yemen so [i]obviously[/i] they're also being used on political dissidents within the US, stop being so fucking naive Or in less snarky terms, citation needed. The fact that six ([i]six[/i]) non-US people have been blackmailed by a US spy agency is unsurprising and really doesn't imply that they do it to Americans as well. [i]Everybody[/i] uses blackmail. Do you really think the NSA is the first spy agency to do so? And if not, where's the paranoid hand-wringing about all the other spy agencies in the world blackmailing their own citizens? So the NSA intentionally smeared Snowden when a completely unrelated news agency looked into Snowden's personal life and used it to make a headline. You want to run that by me again?[/QUOTE] "This isn't bad because others are worse" You are fucking stupid mate, I'll take my ban.
[QUOTE=frozensoda;43002242]"This isn't bad because others are worse"[/QUOTE] a++ reading comprehension If you want to argue that governments shouldn't be spying on foreigners and each other then that's another thing entirely, but the notion that this alone is evidence that the US is some police state Orwellian nightmare is pretty clearly contradicted by the multitude of countries that do the same thing and are [I]not[/I] freedom-hating hellholes of repression.
[QUOTE=catbarf;43002259]a++ reading comprehension If you want to argue that governments shouldn't be spying on foreigners and each other then that's another thing entirely, but the notion that this alone is evidence that the US is some police state Orwellian nightmare is pretty clearly contradicted by the multitude of countries that do the same thing and are [I]not[/I] freedom-hating hellholes of repression.[/QUOTE] Where is your line? I always see you making excuses for obvious breeches of trust with our government. What's it gonna take for you to see this for what it is?? even if someone told you that they were placing an agent in every home to record everything everyone does and says you would still be like "others are worse, its for your safety"
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[QUOTE=frozensoda;43002287]Where is your line? I always see you making excuses for obvious breeches of trust with our government. What's it gonna take for you to see this for what it is??[/QUOTE] My line is that I hate sensationalism, hyperbole, and extreme overreaction. Just about every headline involving the NSA in the last two months has boiled down to 'NSA does its job, leaked documents show' and the threads are full of people crying police state, blithely ignoring that the activity in question has been done basically by everyone since forever, and ironically suggesting they move to countries that do the same damn thing. I'm not saying it's good. I'm not saying it's justified. I'm saying it's the status quo, not a shocking revelation, not something the US is alone in doing and certainly not something every other country gets a free pass on. Stick with the facts. [QUOTE=frozensoda;43002287]even if someone told you that they were placing an agent in every home to record everything everyone does and says you would still be like "others are worse, its for your safety"[/QUOTE] Show me people being falsely accused, arrested, or imprisoned due to government mismanagement, or personal intrusion of privacy (as opposed to carefully anonymized metadata relationship maps), or government agencies using their powers directly against their own people for political goals, and I'll be out protesting too. Anything less doesn't affect me negatively or intrude upon my personal rights.
[QUOTE=catbarf;43002339] Show me people being falsely accused, arrested, or imprisoned due to government mismanagement, or personal intrusion of privacy (as opposed to carefully anonymized metadata relationship maps), or government agencies using their powers directly against their own people for political goals, and I'll be out protesting too. Anything less doesn't affect me negatively or intrude upon my personal rights.[/QUOTE] [URL]https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/timeline[/URL] 2013 Oct. 30: hacking of Google's and Yahoo's data centers. Not metadata only. 2007 Oct. 24: Senator Obama Promises Strong Opposition to FISA's Retroactive Immunity for Telecommunications Companies 2008 Jun. 20: FISA Amendments Act Passes House, Senator Obama Breaks Promise and Votes For the FISA Amendments Act 2008 Jul. 8: Congress Passes FISA Amendments Act, Giving Telecom Companies Immunity and Expanding Wiretapping Powers 2004: NSA ordered wiretap of Barack Obama [URL]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/20/russ-tice-nsa-obama_n_3473538.html[/URL] Is it really a stretch to maybe think that they intentionally put Obama in power? And that they did that by blackmailing a bunch of important people (americans!)? Unless you somehow have EVIDENCE that this happened, it totally didn't happen, right? Again, stop being so dense/naive. People aren't overreacting to this and you shouldn't assume that an organization that has been shown to be untrustworthy (they've lied about many things that are now known to be true) should be trusted. Do you tend to assume the best out of people you can't trust? Are you stupid?
[QUOTE=adnzzzzZ;43002727] Is it really a stretch to maybe think that they intentionally put Obama in power? And that they did that by blackmailing a bunch of important people (americans!)? Unless you somehow have EVIDENCE that this happened, it totally didn't happen, right?[/QUOTE] My sides.
[QUOTE=adnzzzzZ;43002727]Unless you somehow have EVIDENCE that this happened, it totally didn't happen, right? [/QUOTE] Generally, yes, that is how rational people think. 9/11 wasn't a conspiracy, aliens never landed at Roswell, and Obama isn't secretly a reptilian overlord. [QUOTE=adnzzzzZ;43002727]People aren't overreacting to this and you shouldn't assume that an organization that has been shown to be untrustworthy (they've lied about many things that are now known to be true) should be trusted. [/QUOTE] Untrustworthy to whom? In what way? Government organizations lie to protect classified information, especially when it comes to national security, but that doesn't mean they aren't accountable to their people. I can list plenty of agencies that lie off their asses to other governments but have been reliable in working for the good of their people, from a number of countries. It's not a matter of trust, it's a matter of evidence. Politicians lie too but that doesn't mean every politician secretly wants to become a fascist dictator and we ought to kill them all now before it's too late (evidence be damned). Obviously you should be keeping a close eye on organizations and people that lie for a living, but that doesn't mean you can start assuming the worst simply because you can envision it as a possibility. You need direct evidence, not fearmongering and slippery slope arguments. [QUOTE=adnzzzzZ;43002727]Do you tend to assume the best out of people you can't trust?[/QUOTE] Of course not. That's why we have all kinds of checks and balances inherent in the system. Go take a look at just how many organizations can legally serve as whistleblowing agencies, or how many people there are between agencies keeping watch on one another. For a conspiracy of the type you're suggesting to be pulled off would require the absolute complicity of everyone operating on the project, everyone overseeing the project, and everyone keeping tabs from other agencies- and in the case of intelligence agencies, these are young people chosen for independent critical-thinking ability, because yes-men make fuckawful analysts and problem-solvers. Does that kind of conspiracy seem likely to you? I don't think the government is perfect. I don't think the people running the show necessarily have pure altruism at heart. But I expect [i]evidence[/i] for strong claims, not wild speculation with the tacit admission (with the 'wake up sheeple' style rhetoric) that it's all just an asspull.
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