New Xbox confirmed: Will be called just "Xbox", $500 (or $300 with a subscription), always-online, $
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[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;40208872]Fuck the people who live out in areas that don't have internet or broadband I guess. Guess Microsoft doesn't want their service.[/QUOTE]
Microsoft doesn't care about their service, their big cash cow is Live subs.
It's very important to note that this guy doesn't know shit. Just like all of the articles, he is going purely off rumors and supposed leaks. The entire rumor about requiring internet started in the following vgleaks article and unsurprisingly is entirely unfounded. (and then of course Kotaku of all sites ran a ton of articles and it spread like wildfire)
[url]http://www.vgleaks.com/durango-xdk/[/url]
[IMG]http://www.vgleaks.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/xdk5.jpg[/IMG]
Literally the only thing even remotely close is the part that says the following...
"Durango will implement different power states so that it can always be powered on, but will draw minimal electricity when not in use, the console will be ready instantly when users want to play, and will always maintain a network connection so that console software and games are always current. With this “Always On, Always Connected” design, users will quickly and easily enjoy their connected entertainment experiences, with no waiting for the console to restart or install games."
Which quite literally just says that the next Xbox will have more than one power state, presumably meaning it will have a "sleep" function much like computers, and will be able to update itself in said state.
Nothing in the XDX even remotely hints at "always online" DRM for neither the console itself or it's games, nor does it say a single thing about the system disallowing used games. So can we please all just accept that Kotaku is shit and stop spreading these stupid rumors? And maybe do a little bit of digging for yourself rather than believing every shit rumor, especially when it starts on Kotaku and their "source" (this article) doesn't even back up their claims.
[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;40208817]i think hes lmaoing more at people who cal thenselves gamers, or people like you who take it a step further and insist that they are "real" gamers
which I'm gonna be honest thats pretty fucking hilarious[/QUOTE]
Please, I'm pretty sure it's a safe bet that now we can start throwing around the label of "real gamer" once this new Xbox hits the market. I highly doubt anyone who enjoys playing video games is going to buy something that makes it a huge hassle to play a video game.
But of course you wouldn't listen to people's opinions because you're just a guy who likes to shitpost and laugh at the expense of others. You can find me hilarious, pathetic, whatever insult you want to throw at me to feel better about yourself all you want. Not going to feed you.
[QUOTE=Phaselancer;40208815]What they say it will cost, only $500.00 USD
Real Cost
$500 Console
Internet
$60 games because there is no backwards compatibility
Monthly subscription fee (To play the games)
Which equals, fuck you loyal customers
When did Microsoft turn into EA?[/QUOTE]
Is all of this not normal among all consoles? Games are $60, the PS3 was $600 at launch, you have to pay for the internet for all of them, and the monthly/yearly fee is to play the multiplayer.
[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;40208845]He's right guys. Ruining an entire franchise with 1 installment is quite a brilliant feat.[/QUOTE]
You're right, the spiral to shitdom began after 3, when the game started to gradually feel like cod in the future.
[QUOTE=Pretty Obscure;40208898]It's very important to note that this guy doesn't know shit. Just like all of the articles, he is going purely off rumors and supposed leaks. The entire rumor about requiring internet started in the following vgleaks article and unsurprisingly is entirely unfounded.
Nothing in the XDX even remotely hints at "always online" DRM for neither the console itself or it's games, nor does it say a single thing about the system disallowing used games. So can we please all just accept that Kotaku is shit and stop spreading these stupid rumors? And maybe do a little bit of digging for yourself rather than believing every shit rumor, especially when it starts on Kotaku and their "source" (this article) doesn't even back up their claims.[/QUOTE]
Both sources are reputable analysts who have a history of correct predictions, and it doesn't mention Kotaku anywhere, what are you smoking.
The XDX doesn't mention online DRM, but then again that's also a leak and could be wrong, unfinished, or outdated. The rumors are piling up fast and several sources, including insiders, are confirming them left and right.
New Xbox? Cool
Named "Xbox"? Good, don't need any more stupid pointless numbers
Always on internet connection? GG Micro$oft
$99 budget Xbox 360 model? Bad idea. The Canadian exclusive $99 Wii didn't exactly sell all that well, why would this?
November Release? Also a bad idea. After you reveal exactly what the new Xbox does, it'll take more than a few months to make your consumers think it's a good thing to buy or (less likely) make changes to the system to make your consumers happy.
$500-$300 price tag? Those specs better be pretty damned good and it better have Blu-Ray too.
Wow! I can't believe the hate on something that hasn't even been shown yet! Just wait with the "lololol go PS4, f*uck M$" untill we actually KNOW something!
Though i totally agree that if it would cost 500$ (which i doubt) and will require an internet connection (which i doubt), then it will probably not be very popular for long..
[QUOTE=latin_geek;40208938]Is all of this not normal among all consoles? Games are $60, the PS3 was $600 at launch, you have to pay for the internet for all of them, and the monthly/yearly fee is to play the multiplayer.[/QUOTE]
Huh? The only platform that requires you to pay to play online is the Xbox. Xbox Live started out strong, especially given Playstation 3's weak launch, but now it's a total joke and a ripoff.
[QUOTE=latin_geek;40208938]you have to pay for the internet for all of them, and the monthly/yearly fee is to play the multiplayer.[/QUOTE]
Only on 360. PS3, Wii, DS and WiiU were all free to play online.
[QUOTE=latin_geek;40208992]Both sources are reputable analysts who have a history of correct predictions, and it doesn't mention Kotaku anywhere, what are you smoking.
The XDX doesn't mention online DRM, but then again that's also a leak and could be wrong, unfinished, or outdated. The rumors are piling up fast and several sources, including insiders, are confirming them left and right.[/QUOTE]
If you've been following the news on this always-on rumor at all you'd know that the first site to run an article on it was Kotaku and they cited some hacker and that vgleaks article as sources, neither of which actually even said what Kotaku claimed. Other sites then began to run articles citing Kotaku's sources and Kotaku and so on and so forth until now a "reputable analyst" is perpetuating the rumor due to all of sites running the rumor and claiming "anonymous insider sources" when really they're just trying to play off the buzz.
Gaming journalism is a terrible beast and this is why.
well, I won't be buying a new Xbox that's for damn sure.
Shit like this is why you go PC, brothers
No offline play [U][I][B]AND[/B][/I][/U] no backward compatibility?
Microsoft just lost.
Ps4 will lead
But PC will remain the victor
So let's do a rundown
Your only exclusives are Halo, and Gears of War.
WELP OKAY NONE OF THAT FOR ME
HOW BOUT YOU MISTER PS4
OH YOU'RE ALSO SHIT?
PC TIME
[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;40208913]Please, I'm pretty sure it's a safe bet that now we can start throwing around the label of "real gamer" once this new Xbox hits the market. I highly doubt anyone who enjoys playing video games is going to buy something that makes it a huge hassle to play a video game.
But of course you wouldn't listen to people's opinions because you're just a guy who likes to shitpost and laugh at the expense of others. You can find me hilarious, pathetic, whatever insult you want to throw at me to feel better about yourself all you want. Not going to feed you.[/QUOTE]
calling me out for being an asshole isnt going to make me laughing at you for spazzing out about TRUE GAMERTUDE any less justified
sorry
I think everyone is taking the always online too far. It could merely be that the console is always connected to the internet. My phone is always connected to the internet, my computer is, my ipod is, and most internet capable device I own is connected to the internet. Microsoft making it so that if your internet connection drops and the xbox now suddenly doesnt work would be a bad business move. I highly doubt they would do that if they are actually wanting to compete in the next generation. I may eat my words when the announcement comes out but I think everyone is letting their hate for Microsoft out and making conclusions. Its all rumors, even if it has been a rumor for months it does not make it true. I will be waiting for Microsoft to officially announce anything before i get all butt hurt and start raging at them.
[QUOTE=Sardonus;40209115]So let's do a rundown
Your only exclusives are Halo, and Gears of War.
WELP OKAY NONE OF THAT FOR ME
HOW BOUT YOU MISTER PS4
OH YOU'RE ALSO SHIT?
PC TIME[/QUOTE]
How exactly is PS4 a piece of shit?
Little Big Planet Franchise
Modnation Racers (most likely will become a franchise)
God of War Franchise
Gran Turismo Franchise
Uncharted Franchise
The Last of Us
Heavy Rain
Beyond: Two Souls
Motorstorm Franchise
Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time (technically the franchise since they acquired the license)
Killzone Franchise
Resistance Franchise
Here's a list of a few others coming in 2013:
[url]http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/03/07/the-20-playstation-3-exclusives-of-2013?page=4[/url]
I don't think a console that keeps gaining exclusives titles can be qualified as "shitty."
[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;40209181]How exactly is PS4 a piece of shit?
Little Big Planet Franchise
Modnation Racers (most likely will become a franchise)
God of War Franchise
Gran Turismo Franchise
Uncharted Franchise
The Last of Us
Heavy Rain
Beyond: Two Souls
Motorstorm Franchise
Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time (technically the franchise since they acquired the license)
Killzone Franchise
Here's a list of a few others coming in 2013:
[url]http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/03/07/the-20-playstation-3-exclusives-of-2013?page=4[/url][/QUOTE]
LBP is good
God Of War is stale as hell
Uncharted is stale
Last of Us is neatish
Heavy Rain is cool
Killzone is boring and tired
most of those I don't really carea bout. This console generation just sounds bad, really. All the DR M shit, no used games, always online? No thanks
[QUOTE=Sardonus;40209229]
most of those I don't really carea bout. This console generation just sounds bad, really. All the DR M shit, no used games, always online? No thanks[/QUOTE]
Except only the nextbox even has rumors of those. PS4 isn't going to have those and WiiU doesn't have those either.
I bet Microsoft regretted naming it the Xbox 360 when they realised they would have to come up with another name in six years.
[QUOTE=Sardonus;40209229]most of those I don't really carea bout. This console generation just sounds bad, really. All the DR M shit, no used games, always online? No thanks[/QUOTE]
Except the PS4 isn't always-online and it can play used games? Sony said this themselves. They even said that even though the PS4 can play used games it's really up to the publishers of said game whether or not they want used copies of their games to be playable.
I've got really good cable internet (50mbps), but it's flaky at times. I lose connection for five, six minutes at a time at least once a week.
I will not be buying your crappy console, Microsoft.
Is there any confirmation of this? This guy doesn't work for microsoft, he's just another journalist. He does claim it's microsoft documentation he's working off of but we have nothing but his word that that's true.
In any case, if this is true there's no way I'll get one. I'll stick to PC, I guess - more than enough great games on PC to occupy my limited free time
Oh hey it's like fifth and sixth generation consoles all over again.
wtf are they doing with that pricing a lot of people buy consoles because they don't have enough money for a gaming PC. Sony better make the PS4 at least reasonably priced.
[QUOTE=Tucan Sam;40208747]I can't tell if you are joking or you have never lived outside a nice suburb[/QUOTE]
actually i lived in the middle of nowhere my entire life and even back in 2000 when we moved from dial up to broadband, we didn't have many problems with connection. I don't think my parents have had a major internet outage since 2005. The power goes out more frequently than the internet (which takes the internet down with it)
[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;40209181]How exactly is PS4 a piece of shit?
Little Big Planet Franchise
Modnation Racers (most likely will become a franchise)
God of War Franchise
Gran Turismo Franchise
Uncharted Franchise
The Last of Us
Heavy Rain
Beyond: Two Souls
Motorstorm Franchise
Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time (technically the franchise since they acquired the license)
Killzone Franchise
Resistance Franchise
Here's a list of a few others coming in 2013:
[url]http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/03/07/the-20-playstation-3-exclusives-of-2013?page=4[/url]
I don't think a console that keeps gaining exclusives titles can be qualified as "shitty."[/QUOTE]
TBH the only 2 I give half a shit about on that list are LBP and God of War, and I wouldn't really be interested in new iterations of those as they've already been pretty milked. It's really dumb how people assume because of the xbox doing poorly the PS4 will do well - they could very well both be shit thanks, and I'm certainly not going to get a PS4 if the xbox is shit.
go eat a bag of dicks, MS.
I was going to buy this, but there's no fucking way I'm spending $499 on a console that I can't use half the time.
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;40209049]Huh? The only platform that requires you to pay to play online is the Xbox. Xbox Live started out strong, especially given Playstation 3's weak launch, but now it's a total joke and a ripoff.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=legolover122;40209064]Only on 360. PS3, Wii, DS and WiiU were all free to play online.[/QUOTE]
He listed "internet" as an item besides the membership. I assumed he meant paying for an internet connection.
[QUOTE=Sardonus;40209229] I don't like the ps4 videogames and think drm is bad!!!
No thanks[/QUOTE]
Looking at the rumor mill and all the latest news.
[B]PS4 vs Steam box[/B]
[video=youtube;ZvEnIkz82A0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvEnIkz82A0[/video]
[B]Lets do this bitches.[/B]
[editline]8th April 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=DJK;40209375]wtf are they doing with that pricing a lot of people buy consoles because they don't have enough money for a gaming PC. Sony better make the PS4 at least reasonably priced.[/QUOTE]
even ps4 at 500/600 $ is reasonable
a yearly subsription fee from xbox and 500$ is a shitload of money
never think short term. Short term 600$ is more than 550$. in the long term, XBox rapes you.
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