• Trump, once again, validates leaked intelligence in crybaby Twitter rant, telling NY Times to apolog
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[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51833199] 2) Pure conjecture. [/QUOTE] I could say the same for any involvement the Russians have with Trump. Also, those leaks they supposedly let out? They were all true. So if all the Russians had to do to sway opinion was to reveal the truth, does that really speak well for intentions of the people talking down about it? [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51833202]I don't think you have a leg to stand on when the last few sentences are your view[/QUOTE] Yes because not voting for someone to avoid bastardizing my views is somehow contradictory to this end? Ummm try to make sense please? [QUOTE=Raidyr;51833201]I feel like I have a pretty good grip on all three. What part of my post lead you to believe I was bastardizing my principals?[/QUOTE] I more mean that there's a whole world of policies and forms of government that you haven't yet opened your mind to learning about. I'm sure if you looked hard enough you'd find something you liked better than Social Democracy. [QUOTE=lanhacker1488;51833391]Maybe not. But would I commit crimes or act unethically to "fight back"? I hope not. I assume these people have signed contracts and accepted the responsibilities detailed therein, I don't get to break an NDA just because I get fired when my services are no longer needed nor wanted. I can see the point in leaking documents that objectively will bring improvement to the country or the state of affairs, but in that case I'd rather see them leaked in order to help the country and not as a desperate way of retaining your power.[/QUOTE] I would do the exact same thing if it would lead to positive changes. Sure it's a huge risk to take, but if you feel like the consequences are far outweighed by the potential gains, I feel it is worth a shot.
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51830940][noparse][Media]https://twitter.com/VicBergerIV/status/831879777715908610[/media][/noparse][/QUOTE] Not that it really needs to be posted, but here's some more. [url=https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/793572802729086976]"WikiLeaks emails reveal Podesta urging Clinton camp to 'dump' emails. Time to #DrainTheSwamp!"[/url] [url=https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/790539740118446080]"Why has nobody asked Kaine about the horrible views emanated on WikiLeaks about Catholics? Media in the tank for Clinton but Trump will win!"[/url] [url=https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/789598795315150853]"WikiLeaks reveals Clinton camp’s work with ‘VERY friendly and malleable reporters’ #DrainTheSwamp #CrookedHillary"[/url] [url=https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/789487320290430976]"Huma calls it a "MESS," the rest of us call it CORRUPT! WikiLeaks catches Crooked in the act - again.#DrainTheSwamp"[/url]
Is he really calling for investigations/inquiries into leaking? Does he know how fucked that would make the entire government? It would fuse. It wouldn't be visible [I]from[/I] space, it would fucking [B]be[/B] space.
[QUOTE=space1;51833072]if you read the leaks you would know this isn't true at all. this is the irony of YOU calling me a sheep.[/QUOTE] What are you talking about? Obama defended PRISM and said congress was briefed on it multiple times, who depending on who you asked, were either not briefed enough, or just didn't bother asking. The idea that Trump set the intelligence community therefore he must be doing something good is just absurdly shallow and black-and-white thinking.
[QUOTE=Potus;51833344] Damn, Shepard has some massive balls by saying this. Props to him, seems like the only Fox News person with a spine at the moment[/QUOTE] Shep Smith proving once again that he is the basest man in all of media [sp]except maybe A. Coop[/sp] [QUOTE=space1;51833419] I more mean that there's a whole world of policies and forms of government that you haven't yet opened your mind to learning about. I'm sure if you looked hard enough you'd find something you liked better than Social Democracy.[/QUOTE] What makes you think I haven't looked hard enough or given respective policies and forms of government a chance?
[QUOTE=space1;51833419]I could say the same for any involvement the Russians have with Trump. Also, those leaks they supposedly let out? They were all true. So if all the Russians had to do to sway opinion was to reveal the truth, does that really speak well for intentions of the people talking down about it?[/QUOTE] The fact you ignore the motivation behind this is concerning to everyone but you it would seem. [QUOTE] Yes because not voting for someone to avoid bastardizing my views is somehow contradictory to this end? Ummm try to make sense please?[/QUOTE] I'm making perfect sense. You refrained from voting. You're complaining about the state of the government and the state of elected officials and had an opportunity to contribute. If you chose not to, why does that make sense? [QUOTE] I more mean that there's a whole world of policies and forms of government that you haven't yet opened your mind to learning about. I'm sure if you looked hard enough you'd find something you liked better than Social Democracy.[/QUOTE] Do you have a requirement to talk down to literally everyone you speak to? You're clearly being as condescending as possible, why? What's the point? Do you really think you're that much more infomred you can act like he's a child? Like we're all children?
[QUOTE=DOCTOR LIGHT;51833491]Is he really calling for investigations/inquiries into leaking? Does he know how fucked that would make the entire government? It would fuse. It wouldn't be visible [I]from[/I] space, it would fucking [B]be[/B] space.[/QUOTE] of course he's calling for investigation, anything that dares oppose him has to go under inspection because he will go down to the pettiest shit to get his way. Now do these leaks need some sort of checking on, yes but does everything that he calls out need it? No
[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;51832054]Oh yea, like that one time her tag team sabotaged Bernie Sander's chance and pretty much gave Trump the presidency on a silver platter. Truly a lady of the people /s [editline]fff[/editline] How can you say that bullshit with a straight face? Are you proboardslol's alt?[/QUOTE] Correct me if I'm wrong here, but that was the DNC. And the DNC =/= Hillary Clinton.
[QUOTE=space1;51833419] Yes because not voting for someone to avoid bastardizing my views is somehow contradictory to this end? Ummm try to make sense please?[/QUOTE] imagine being dissatisfied with the current political climate and choosing to protest it by not doing literally the ONE THING that gives you an opportunity to directly affect said climate. By refusing to vote you in essence stated that you were satisfied with either choice. As for this nonsense justification you had for Trumps abhorrent behavior I must point out that Trump is essentially the top diplomat for the United States. All this shit that Trump does reflects negatively on our country. It ruins our diplomatic credibility and makes us look unstable. Trump's instability combined with his constant threats of tariffs and other protectionist measures are going to cause foreign businesses to pull out of the US. He's also fucking up ties with some of our closest allies, especially in regard to his flipflopping on his policy for Russia.
[QUOTE=J!NX;51832035]I hope wikileaks leaks something insanely nasty on trump tbh[/QUOTE] They won't.
[QUOTE=Dookas;51834039]of course he's calling for investigation, anything that dares oppose him has to go under inspection because he will go down to the pettiest shit to get his way. Now do these leaks need some sort of checking on, yes but does everything that he calls out need it? No[/QUOTE] You can't investigate leaking inside a government. It's an area weapon. It's like saying "Let's sort all the anthrax particles one by one". It would literally kill both parties to try and investigate and control leaking.
[QUOTE=Dr.C;51832175]Dude, a Comedy Central Roast was dedicated to him. He's happy to receive sick zingers as long as he's the center of attention[/QUOTE] And even then, jokes about his wealth were off-limits. Good to know that money is THAT super important to him. [editline]18th February 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=space1;51832227] I mean hell, Trump supposedly got a better deal on airforce one and repealed the TPP, so it isn't all 100% bad.[/QUOTE] He claims he convinced Boeing to drop the price to "less than $4 billion", but wasn't it shown to only cost ~$3.2 billion to begin with?
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