BREAKING: Massive Manhunt Underway For Ex-Cop Christopher Christopher Jordan Dorner After Riverside - Polidicks

You probably won't hear shit on the radio. LAPD has so many channels, for so many sectors that you might as well draw one out of a hat. You could probably listen to a few at one time considering it's 3:10 AM there, but come morning and day not a chance [editline]8th February 2013[/editline] They might have a city wide channel for large situations, such as the North Hollywood Shootout, or the stand off that this guy is going to eventually be in, but I don't know for sure [editline]8th February 2013[/editline] This is interesting: OFFICER ASSIST 02/08/13 02:24 (LOS ANGELES - LAPD 46) UPDATE: ASD ON SCENE AND PERIMETER IN PLACE. APPROX. 21 UNITS ON SCENE. COMMAND POST BEING SET UP. RIFLE EQUIPPED UNITS REQUEST [LAX079] The fuck is this I wonder. Ah just some Mexican with a gun who was running from police

[IMG]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-N_yBWd1g32M/TaAAN0g-COI/AAAAAAAAAQQ/kxTQFvTBaQM/s1600/Law-Abiding-Citizen.jpg[/IMG] How has nobody posted this yet? It's like the exact premise of this film. Also, in spite of the pages and pages of discussion, this guy has already won - he's achieved his goal. You guys are all talking about him and discussing his actions, his intentions and his motivations. Something is going to change because of what he's done, not that I condone it.

upload it somewhere else bro

Yeah, this guy might say what he wants, to me it just looks like he's trying to fulfill his murder fantasy (with all that talk about killing police officer's families). [editline]8th February 2013[/editline] Yup, after reading all of it, this guy is a clear nutcase. He's definitely not sane.

[QUOTE=ThatSprite;39515424]Don't twist my words, I never said anything about it being "more true".[/QUOTE] I never said you did, but people are doing this smug "Well how would you have done it?", as if implying that the method this guy has chosen (Kill enough people until others take notice) is in any way justified or valid.

[QUOTE=TheDecryptor;39515668]I never said you did, but people are doing this smug "Well how would you have done it?", as if implying that the method this guy has chosen (Kill enough people until others take notice) is in any way justified or valid.[/QUOTE] Not trying to stir the shit or anything but how would you do it. He tried through the legal channels and got publically shamed. I'm not sure what a single man can do in this situation.

there are situations in life that are going to just fuck you, one way or the other. for some reason, people want to imagine that every time, these situations are wrought by the person in question, but that's not always the case. in this guys case, it seems like he was in a situation that's fucked him. he would have not had any further legal avenue, and taking his statements about his lawyer along with what is known about corruption in the LAPD, it's by no means justification, simply explanation. i don't think this guy had a course of action that's agreeable he didn't want to tarnish his dignity or his reputation and didn't want to let corruption run amok in front of him he didn't have as much hesitation with the idea of killing people not really admirable but the guys a soldier and a cop and from the looks of it, tried his hardest through legal means to stay a good person up to a point i don't know that there was much for him to do of course someones going to take this to mean I'm supporting murder which is not true

[QUOTE=TheDecryptor;39515406]But of course we're going to listen to him now that he's murdered 3 people. That makes his story more true![/QUOTE] Come on Do you really think ANYBODY would read the stuff he wrote if he didn't get the publicity of being an ex-military ex-cop cop killer? No, they wouldn't. So it's either have nobody listen to him (Literally no benefit to him) or get revenge AND have people at least HEAR your side of the story. [editline]8th February 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;39515785]there are situations in life that are going to just fuck you, one way or the other.[/QUOTE] He wasn't just fucked though. His life was completely destroyed beyond all chance of recovery because, according to him, he was standing up for justice.

This is happening in my area, pretty crazy stuff. Some people I know were scared he was going to go and kill random people like them.

[QUOTE=Megadick;39515873]Come on Do you really think ANYBODY would read the stuff he wrote if he didn't get the publicity of being an ex-military ex-cop cop killer? No, they wouldn't. So it's either have nobody listen to him (Literally no benefit to him) or get revenge AND have people at least HEAR your side of the story.[/QUOTE] if you have to kill people to make a point then you're a shitty person who shouldn't be taken seriously

[QUOTE=MisterMooth;39515914]if you have to kill people to make a point then you're a shitty person who shouldn't be taken seriously[/QUOTE] Some damn fine ad hominen there. "shitty person" what does that even mean?

[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;39516088]Some damn fine ad hominen there. "shitty person" what does that even mean?[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure murderers are shitty people dude and how in the fuck is that an ad hominem do you even know what that means

[QUOTE=MisterMooth;39515914]if you have to kill people to make a point then you're a shitty person who shouldn't be taken seriously[/QUOTE] That's an incredibly naive thing to say. Who the fuck would even READ this guy's stuff if it weren't for his publicity? You're not even looking at this situation and considering his side, you're just thinking OH MURDER MUST BE AN EVIL PSYCOPATH. When in reality it's more complicated than that.

[QUOTE=Megadick;39516129]That's an incredibly naive thing to say. Who the fuck would even READ this guy's stuff if it weren't for his publicity? You're not even looking at this situation and considering his side, you're just thinking OH MURDER MUST BE AN EVIL PSYCOPATH. When in reality it's more complicated than that.[/QUOTE] there are ways of getting your word out without having to *murder* people do you think that's literally the only way to make a point [editline]9th February 2013[/editline] jesus christ you guys are trying way too hard to justify murder

and here we go again

[QUOTE=ThatSprite;39516169]and here we go again[/QUOTE] A+ post dude great contribution this guy murdered people tell me, do you guys think he did the right thing by murdering people or no? serious question

[QUOTE=MisterMooth;39516194]A+ post dude great contribution this guy murdered people tell me, do you guys think he did the right thing by murdering people or no? serious question[/QUOTE] and being a dick isn't going to get anybody to agree with you. And if you read my earlier post you'd find that I explicitly said I wish he'd found a better way to get his message out.

[QUOTE=MisterMooth;39516194]A+ post dude great contribution this guy murdered people tell me, do you guys think he did the right thing by murdering people or no? serious question[/QUOTE] Well he's clearly in the wrong, but if you had read what the dude actually wrote out maybe you wouldn't have to wonder why everyone thinks you're an asshole. He makes the point excessively clear that he has tried every single legal method to bring back his good reputation and show that he wasn't lying, and that every time he tried the rest of the PD force would lie and tear apart his efforts at redemption. This was to the point where he lost most of his status in the Navy as well. If you can say that someone who has lost all standing in their life and had their career and reputation ruined for trying to tell the truth shouldn't want some kind of revenge, then your opinion is clearly not important because [U][I]you are not a human being.[/U][/I]

[QUOTE=MisterMooth;39516145]there are ways of getting your word out without having to *murder* people do you think that's literally the only way to make a point [editline]9th February 2013[/editline] jesus christ you guys are trying way too hard to justify murder[/QUOTE] now accusing us of justifying murder. It's nice that youre trying to argue but you need to refine your methods a little. "do you think that's literally the only way to make a point" Stuff like this ^ You are disregarding our arguements and constructing your own "straw man" to assign to us. You are accusing us of supporting something we dont. Whether this is accidental through poor understanding or planned in attempt to subvert our arguements through use of logical fallacies im not sure. Either way, you should take some time out, read what people are saying and present a reasonable arguement. Your techniques might work on your family or playground friends but most people will be able to see through it. [editline]8th February 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=MisterMooth;39516194]A+ post dude great contribution this guy murdered people tell me, do you guys think he did the right thing by murdering people or no? serious question[/QUOTE] And now a loaded question. Just stop please.

[QUOTE=ThatSprite;39516204]And if you read my earlier post you'd find that I explicitly said I wish he'd found a better way to get his message out.[/QUOTE] And he didn't. Instead, he murdered people. He's even threatening to kill *relatives* of his targets. How can you guys be so sympathetic to this guy? [editline]9th February 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=willer;39516226]Well he's clearly in the wrong, but if you had read what the dude actually wrote out maybe you wouldn't have to wonder why everyone thinks you're an asshole. He makes the point excessively clear that he has tried every single legal method to bring back his good reputation and show that he wasn't lying, and that every time he tried the rest of the PD force would lie and tear apart his efforts at redemption. This was to the point where he lost most of his status in the Navy as well. If you can say that someone who has lost all standing in their life and had their career and reputation ruined for trying to tell the truth shouldn't want some kind of revenge, then your opinion is clearly not important because [U][I]you are not a human being.[/U][/I][/QUOTE] yeah man he totally has no choice but to murder people and target their families

[QUOTE=MisterMooth;39516258]And he didn't. Instead, he murdered people. He's even threatening to kill *relatives* of his targets. How can you guys be so sympathetic to this guy?[/QUOTE] Yeah you're going strawman now. I'm not sympathising with the fact he's murdering people!

[QUOTE=MisterMooth;39516194]A+ post dude great contribution this guy murdered people tell me, do you guys think he did the right thing by murdering people or no? serious question[/QUOTE] Understanding why hes doing it =/= Agreeing or supporting why hes doing it I dont understand why you are not getting that point of what they are trying to tell you. They understand or trying too in either case, why hes doing it. But that doesnt mean they are fucking justifying it.

He lost any right to have the slightest bit of attention payed to him when he decided it was okay to kill innocent people for revenge against someone else.

[QUOTE=Unit-05;39516276]Understanding why hes doing it =/= Agreeing or supporting why hes doing it I dont understand why you are not getting that point of what they are trying to tell you. They understand or trying too in either case, why hes doing it. But that doesnt mean they are fucking justifying it.[/QUOTE] really? [QUOTE=Megadick;39515873]No, they wouldn't. So it's either have nobody listen to him (Literally no benefit to him) or get revenge AND have people at least HEAR your side of the story.[/QUOTE] people seem to be arguing that murdering people and targeting their families and associates was his only option that sounds a lot like trying to justify it

[QUOTE=Mingebox;39516280]He lost any right to have the slightest bit of attention payed to him when he decided it was okay to kill innocent people for revenge against someone else.[/QUOTE] So we should just neglect any sort of insight or research why this man is doing what he did? Killing a is not a small thing to do. Killing is one of the biggest extremes of what a human being CAN do. If he is killing people then we msut see why he was pushed to that end. Because just ignoring it, let it take its course and then forget about it can just result in future happenings [QUOTE=MisterMooth;39516299]really?[/QUOTE] Yes?

[QUOTE=MisterMooth;39516258] [editline]9th February 2013[/editline] yeah man he totally has no choice but to murder people and target their families[/QUOTE] Actually yea, that's exactly what I'm saying. He's been in the navy and the police force his whole life, what do you expect him to do when his life is ruined? Write a book about how the police aren't nice people? Go to the streets and tell everyone that the LAPD are kind of twitchy?

[QUOTE=Unit-05;39516306]So we should just neglect any sort of insight or research why this man is doing what he did? Killing a is not a small thing to do. Killing is one of the biggest extremes of what a human being CAN do. If he is killing people then we msut see why he was pushed to that end. Because just ignoring it, let it take its course and then forget about it can just result in future happenings Yes?[/QUOTE] Did you even see what I quoted? [img]http://i.imgur.com/lPTy3B3.png[/img] Tell me, how is this *not* arguing that he no other choice? He's not saying "Dorner felt he had no other choice", he's obviously arguing that he had no other choice. If he was arguing that he Dorner felt that way then I wouldn't have any objection, because that's obvious by his manifesto. But to argue that this was the only thing he could do is just wrong. It's downplaying the seriousness of murder in order to attempt to make a point. [editline]9th February 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=willer;39516347]Actually yea, that's exactly what I'm saying. He's been in the navy and the police force his whole life, what do you expect him to do when his life is ruined? Write a book about how the police aren't nice people? Go to the streets and tell everyone that the LAPD are kind of twitchy?[/QUOTE] so going out and ruining other people's lives is the best course of action when your life is ruined?

Weren't we done with this? Go back to rating people dumb, mooth.

[QUOTE=MisterMooth;39516368]so ruining the lives of innocents is the best course of action?[/QUOTE] Read. The. Source. I'm not even going to answer a question asked by someone who clearly didn't read what the man said.

[QUOTE=MisterMooth;39516368]Did you even see what I quoted?[/QUOTE] Are you not ignoring everyone elses points of what they are trying to tell you and instead giving us a strawman argument while wondering why nobody is agreeing with you?