BREAKING: Massive Manhunt Underway For Ex-Cop Christopher Christopher Jordan Dorner After Riverside
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[QUOTE=The First 11'er;39516394]Weren't we done with this? Go back to rating people dumb, mooth.[/QUOTE]
people rating me dumb is okay, but god forbid if I rate other people dumb...
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;39516368]so going out and ruining other people's lives is the best course of action when your life is ruined?[/QUOTE]
hi, meet my friend Jimbo, he's the kind of guy that exactly matches your descriptions
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[QUOTE=MisterMooth;39516405]people rating me dumb is okay, but god forbid if I rate other people dumb...[/QUOTE]
Maybe because all of your arguments have massive logical fallacies and are saying people support things they don't?
[QUOTE=willer;39516398]Read.
The.
Source.
I'm not even going to answer a question asked by someone who clearly didn't read what the man said.[/QUOTE]
Did you?
[quote]Suppressing the truth will leave to deadly consequences for you and your family. There will be an element of surprise where you work, live, eat, and sleep. I will utilize ISR at your home, workplace, and all locations in between. I will utilize OSINT to discover your residences, spouses workplaces, and children’s schools. IMINT to coordinate and plan attacks on your fixed locations. Its amazing whats on NIPR. HUMINT will be utilized to collect personal schedules of targets. I never had the opportunity to have a family of my own, I’m terminating yours. Quan, Anderson, Evans, and BOR members Look your wives/husbands and surviving children directly in the face and tell them the truth as to why your children are dead.[/quote]
this is all kinds of fucked up
-MY AUTOMERGE-
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;39516368]
so going out and ruining other people's lives is the best course of action when your life is ruined?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]I have exhausted all available means at obtaining my name back. I have attempted all legal court efforts within appeals at the Superior Courts and California Appellate courts. This is my last resort. The LAPD has suppressed the truth and it has now lead to deadly consequences.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;39516405]people rating me dumb is okay, but god forbid if I rate other people dumb...[/QUOTE]
Never said it's wrong. It's better for you since you don't have to talk to say someone's dumb and you don't have to make idiotic points.
[QUOTE=Unit-05;39516306]So we should just neglect any sort of insight or research why this man is doing what he did? Killing a is not a small thing to do. Killing is one of the biggest extremes of what a human being CAN do. If he is killing people then we msut see why he was pushed to that end. Because just ignoring it, let it take its course and then forget about it can just result in future happenings
Yes?[/QUOTE]
How is sending the message that if you want to be heard, killing innocent civilians will work going to stop future violence? For everyone who's been legitimately wronged, there's someone like Brevik who feels no less convinced of injustice.
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;39516414]Did you?
[/QUOTE]
Yes I did. What you just quoted is the reason why everyone here is saying that he is doing this in the wrong way. We don't know at all for sure, but I'd say that he's threatening their family members as an extra persuasive element to make them come clean. Either way threatening their wives and children is clearly a bad move.
Now stop shit posting, I'm supposed to be a lurker.
[QUOTE=The First 11'er;39516440]Never said it wrong. It's better for you since you don't have to talk to say someone's dumb and you don't have to make idiotic points.[/QUOTE]
what idiotic points? that murdering people and threatening innocent children is wrong?
Nowhere have I doubted that Dorner *felt* that he had no other option, all I've been arguing is that he was wrong. Most people here seem to be justifying Dorner's actions by agreeing with him that he had no other options.
Yes, obviously killing people makes an impact. He shouldn't have though, and by murdering people and threatening to murder innocent families because of all this he's only become the "bad guy" himself.
You guys are also pretty content with just taking his word for all of this. Why automatically assume he's right in all this? Did you skim over all the wacko bits, like the "misandrist lesbians"? If it's all true then cool, but I'd rather him have just stuck it up on a blog or something and put up with it not reaching as much of an audience than have innocent people suffer.
Plus we have sites like wikileaks these days, and the whole internet with social networking at our disposal. It's not hard for whistleblowers and the like to get a word out there on alleged corruption
Say what you like about his methods, he's definitely exposed the LAPD to be institutionally corrupt and some of the worst scum in any police department in the USA.
Go make a thread on the Mass Debate forum. Quit shitting up the thread, this should be for updates on what's happening, not for 8 pages long discussion on morals and ethics.
I'm not sure if I got it right, but that guy wants to murder the families of the people that fucked him over? What does a child of wife of his superior have to do with it?
'Cause, if that's the case, he's freaking nuts.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;39516465]How is sending the message that if you want to be heard, killing innocent civilians will work going to stop future violence? For everyone who's been legitimately wronged, there's someone like Brevik who feels no less convinced of injustice.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. Violence is never the answer, but a lot of posts in this thread just seem to promote/accept the idea that it's somewhat justifiable if you feel you've been a victim of injustice.
Trying to understand the man is fine, but people are being too sympathetic to the guy instead of being critical of his actions. Saying that [i]Dorner[/i] felt as if he had no other options and studying that is obviously true and perfectly okay, but to literally say that he had no other options is just sending the wrong message.
I'm not going into detail, but my family was a victim of major corruption. It literally destroyed my family and the system just watched.
I don't condone his actions but I do not condemn him either, because I actually understand how this system can throw people over the edge.
Just consider this:
The media won't run with it, you have no voice.
You don't have a lot of money and lawyers will just rob your pockets while the justice system will sink you anyway regardless of your funds.
You've lost everything and those who've taken it from you walk on by with a grin.
What options do you have left?
What, rally a peaceful protest... nobody gives a shit, let's watch TV and get pissed.
I just hope innocent children are not victims and the corrupted get what's coming to them because no court system or government will do the job. Hell, the LAPD did a number on those two innocent asian women in the truck, this Chris guy must have some dangerous information.
[QUOTE=EndOfTheWorld;39516643]
I just hope innocent children are not victims and the corrupted get what's coming to them because no court system or government will do the job. Hell, the LAPD did a number on those two innocent asian women in the truck, this Chris guy must have some dangerous information.[/QUOTE]Maybe. Or maybe because he said he was going to kill their families?
[QUOTE=Mingebox;39516737]Maybe. Or maybe because he said he was going to kill their families?[/QUOTE]
Well they've done a good job [I][U]possibly[/U][/I] ending two other families if these two women die in hospital.
[QUOTE=Ciycero;39516424]I have exhausted all available means at obtaining my name back. I have attempted all legal court efforts within appeals at the Superior Courts and California Appellate courts. This is my last resort. The LAPD has suppressed the truth and it has now lead to deadly consequences.[/QUOTE]
He did have another option though - he had the option to not kill or threaten people. It's as simple as that. He didn't *have* to murder. Honestly, I'd have rather him just put up with it instead of having several others injured/killed. Or keep fighting it through legal means. If all your legal court efforts have failed then you still have the option of getting your word out publicly. You're simply not going about things the right way if you have to murder/threaten people and their families to get your point across - that just makes you the worse person. Just because it got your word out in the end doesn't make it right.
You can't fight for your innocence by becoming a murderer.
[QUOTE=Strike 86;39515565][IMG]http://www.movieposterdb.com/posters/12_04/2009/1197624/l_1197624_40f069f9.jpg[/IMG]
How has nobody posted this yet? It's like the exact premise of this film.
Also, in spite of the pages and pages of discussion, this guy has already won - he's achieved his goal.
You guys are all talking about him and discussing his actions, his intentions and his motivations.
Something is going to change because of what he's done, not that I condone it.[/QUOTE]
"No Hotlinking Please" was the most underrated film of the 20th century.
[QUOTE=Itsjustguy;39516896]Holy shit !
QUICK LISTEN ! [url]http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?action=wp&feedId=3771[/url][/QUOTE]
Its just static for me
You don't hear rubbery/tyre screeching and other stuff ?
[QUOTE=Itsjustguy;39516925]You don't hear rubbery/tyre screeching and other stuff ?[/QUOTE]
I did, sounds like aliens.
[QUOTE=Itsjustguy;39516896]Holy shit !
QUICK LISTEN ! [url]http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?action=wp&feedId=3771[/url][/QUOTE]
People really have a lot of time on their hands....
[QUOTE=Itsjustguy;39516925]You don't hear rubbery/tyre screeching and other stuff ?[/QUOTE]
Since nothing is actually broadcasting, that would be interference
[editline]8th February 2013[/editline]
Actually its not some light interferece, someone just talked and that screeching overlayed, someone is actually heavily interfering the channel
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;39516829]He did have another option though - he had the option to not kill or threaten people. It's as simple as that. He didn't *have* to murder. Honestly, I'd have rather him just put up with it instead of having several others injured/killed. Or keep fighting it through legal means. If all your legal court efforts have failed then you still have the option of getting your word out publicly. You're simply not going about things the right way if you have to murder/threaten people and their families to get your point across - that just makes you the worse person. Just because it got your word out in the end doesn't make it right.
You can't fight for your innocence by becoming a murderer.[/QUOTE]
ok congratulations you established that the guy's nuts
"he's not crazy he's just a man with a goal"
"I'm going to kill your family to get my point across"
LOL
[QUOTE=Protocol7;39517074]ok congratulations you established that the guy's nuts[/QUOTE]
what is even the point of this post
[QUOTE=Craig Willmore;39517134]"he's not crazy he's just a man with a goal"
"I'm going to kill your family to get my point across"
LOL[/QUOTE]
Sounds like most wars.
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;39517137]what is even the point of this post[/QUOTE]
i could say the same about this post or the rest of yours in this thread
[QUOTE=Protocol7;39517197]i could say the same about this post or the rest of yours in this thread[/QUOTE]
you mean calling out the people who said murder was his only option?
[QUOTE=willer;39516347]Actually yea, that's exactly what I'm saying. He's been in the navy and the police force his whole life, what do you expect him to do when his life is ruined? Write a book about how the police aren't nice people? Go to the streets and tell everyone that the LAPD are kind of twitchy?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Megadick;39515873]Come on
Do you really think ANYBODY would read the stuff he wrote if he didn't get the publicity of being an ex-military ex-cop cop killer?
No, they wouldn't. So it's either have nobody listen to him (Literally no benefit to him) or get revenge AND have people at least HEAR your side of the story.[/QUOTE]
etc.
why is saying that he could just not kill people such a ridiculous concept here
by agreeing with him that he had no other options you're just justifying it
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