• Eco-Friendly ETs Could Wipe Out Polluted Planet Earth To Protect Their Civilisations, Warns NASA
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I just hope we don't come across space PETA.
If we were to encounter alien life they would die within a few days, and most likely if some returned back the rest of them would die.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31879534]If we were to encounter alien life they would die within a few days, and most likely if some returned back the rest of them would die.[/QUOTE] What the fuck are you even talking about Sobotnik? Disease? Human violence? War? A mix of all three? Please do clarify your ever "mind-expanding" statements.
So an eco-friendly alien civilization that goes around attacking anything that isn't eco-friendly? Ought to end badly when they come across some other highly industrialized civilization that doesn't hinder itself with eco-friendlyness. Also the "Nasa" most probably was not a mispelling, it's almost surely intentional (because no-one at NASA said this).
[QUOTE=Lebowski;31880414]What the fuck are you even talking about Sobotnik? Disease? Human violence? War? A mix of all three? Please do clarify your ever "mind-expanding" statements.[/QUOTE] Disease, what mind expanding statements do you seem to be thinking of?
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31880639]Disease, what mind expanding statements do you seem to be thinking of?[/QUOTE] *travel across galaxy* *get a cold and die*
First, it's daily mail. Second, if the aliens are more intelligent than us, then they know they can come down here and teach us new clean energy sources instead of just going genocidal. This is of course, with the thought that they are pacific aliens(and if they're "green" then I can assume they are), if they are war faring aliens then I don't think they'll give a shit about our planet's condition and just wipe us out.
I'd say the aliens would look at how advanced we are, then decide to let us advance and fix our problems ourselves.
The article doesn't even post a source as far as I can see...
[QUOTE=SgtTupelo;31880887]I'd say the aliens would look at how advanced we are, then decide to let us advance and fix our problems ourselves.[/QUOTE] That too, we are in the way of fixing shit up and if any alien has been paying attention to us then they know that. Not to mention we don't really have a choice once oil runs out, you could say a polluting civilization is temporary.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;31876586] This is true, but if aliens ever came across us they'd just pillage the solar system like vikings.[/QUOTE] Space Vikings. :v:
[QUOTE=Asgard;31880919]The article doesn't even post a source as far as I can see...[/QUOTE] [quote] The [B]Nasa Planetary Science Division[/B] wrote a report answering the question 'Would Contact with Extraterrestrials Benefit or Harm Humanity?' and gave beneficial, neutral and harmful outcomes.[/quote]
I think that no one really has a clue what first contact would be like.
They might not even know the concept of "pollution". Perhaps their body chemistry doesn't confict their technology or maybe they've been living in space so long that they've forgotten about it. If the aliens we eventually may encounter are intelligent, I think their intelligence will be so alien that we can't interpret any of their actions. Our abstract concepts might totally differ from theirs. Even the article makes the assumption that aliens are just humans with a different language.
Why would we wipe out a few microbes on an anthill in Africa? I really don't think humanity would pose any threat to a species hundreds or even thousands of years ahead of us in terms of development.
[QUOTE=kaine123;31883835]Why would we wipe out a few microbes on an anthill in Africa? I really don't think humanity would pose any threat to a species hundreds or even thousands of years ahead of us in terms of development.[/QUOTE] Any species we meet out there in the vastness of space, I think any gap in development would be in the millions of years. Possibly many, many millions.
[QUOTE=Atlascore;31885398]What's going to happen: Friendly aliens: They'll help us become better and maybe even give us some stuff Neutral aliens: They'll do something, within six months. Unfriendly aliens: They'll enslave us.[/QUOTE] We will build the mythical city on the hill.
[QUOTE=Contag;31881440][/QUOTE] Yes and where would that article be?
Wouldn't it be easier to give us some of there technology and resources so we wouldn't have to be using pollute are planet to get resources?
I think we are humanizing aliens too much. Due to differences in brain or brain-analogue chemistry (the difference could be minor or massive) and as a product of their environment the alien species are going to have much different (or in the great off chance slightly similar) philosophical constructs than us. They may not have a workable 'society' as we perceive it, they will have vastly different wants and different views on us than we have have for ourselves. There is absolutely no way to objectively say that the aliens will behave in a certain manner and (if we meet aliens) our preconceived notions of what the aliens will act like will often be wrong.
Given that it has taken like 7billion years of development before humans came around, I don't think there's too many other species that could have evolved at least 7 billion years inside the whole 14 billion years time after the big bang. Give or take a billion years on top of that and you could have an unimaginably powerful intelligent society, like us. Only we've been busy technology-wise and shit for just 2000 years or so.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31880639]Disease, what mind expanding statements do you seem to be thinking of?[/QUOTE] Honestly if a race were advanced enough for interstellar travel, they would be advanced enough to understand that basic quarantine procedures are necessary when visiting a biologically active world.
[QUOTE=SgtTupelo;31880887]I'd say the aliens would look at how advanced we are, then decide to let us advance and fix our problems ourselves.[/QUOTE]\ Humans that have only reached their own moon : ADVANCED aliens that are cabable of inter-plantary travel : NOT ADVANCED
Seriously, the only reason why Aliens would come here is either for Comedy or because they pity us :v:
Maybe the outer space aliens that we don't know of are exactly like us. Well not exactly like us, but you know, maybe they struggle with stupidity and idiocy the same as us, every day?
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;31890206]Given that it has taken like 7billion years of development before humans came around, I don't think there's too many other species that could have evolved at least 7 billion years inside the whole 14 billion years time after the big bang. Give or take a billion years on top of that and you could have an unimaginably powerful intelligent society, like us. Only we've been busy technology-wise and shit for just 2000 years or so.[/QUOTE] Our solar system has only been around for about 4.5-5 billions years or so. That's roughly 8 billion years for life to develop, when galaxies are known to have been forming within a few hundred million years after the big bang. And considering there are literally hundreds of billions of galaxies, some so far away we will never be able to see, I think it's pretty unlikely that there haven't been a vast number of intelligent civilizations cruising around our cosmos for millions and millions of years.
Hawkings raises a bit of a good point and draws some good parallels between the discovery of the 'New World' and a possible First Contact scenario.
I like to think that the cosmos is still very young. Like, 14 billion years only being a fracture of the time of space. (And therefor it has led me to believe we are "one of the first" intelligent species, but not taking it for granted) Also, there are literally millions of different places where it would take us at least a million years to get there. So what does that tell us? Our ~100 year lives, one at a time, are.. insignificant.
[QUOTE=Contag;31880809]*travel across galaxy* *get a cold and die*[/QUOTE] War of The Worlds in a nutshell
Seems to me more like they're running out of excuses to attempt to force us to change for things that have never conclusively and universally been agreed upon as even being a problem. Seriously, aliens will destroy us because we're not green enough? Remember when Al Gore invented the internet, too?
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