Canadian Gov't drops all pretense and actually makes immigrants second-class citizens - Polidicks

So wait, let me get this straight, the country that was created by european immigrants will now treat immigrants like second-class citizens to "protect their culture/heritage" (created by european immigrants) [B]What[/B] And how exactly does that stop the terrorist acts from happening anyway. It's probably going to add fuel to the fire instead.

Who are they to say I am Canadian? I am a human, and this planet is my home.

Seems like the fox chucked a hissy fit and dumbed pretty much everyone's posts on the 2nd page.... To be honest, this goes against even one of the basic values of Canada (aka united as one country from many differences, from all backgrounds & nationalities / ethnicities). I'd say just because my countrys' PM (Abbott) and the Canadian PM (Harper) are essentially buttbuddies (both conservative leaders), we'll be next to adopt this disgraceful motion of a two-tier citizenship system. It essentially breeds systematic discrimination

The NDP's not looking too bad now, is it?

[QUOTE=Damjen;47887079]So wait, let me get this straight, the country that was created by european immigrants will now treat immigrants like second-class citizens to "protect their culture/heritage" (created by european immigrants) [B]What[/B] And how exactly does that stop the terrorist acts from happening anyway. It's probably going to add fuel to the fire instead.[/QUOTE] It keeps the US and Israel happy, because they basically dictate international politics.

[QUOTE=shutter_eye5;47887357]Seems like the fox chucked a hissy fit and dumbed pretty much everyone's posts on the 2nd page.... [/QUOTE] Still waiting for a proper source, and/or people who actually defend terrorists or suchlike. So, no, I haven't.

[QUOTE=AtomicWaffle;47883837]Source: [url]https://bccla.org/2015/06/its-official-second-class-citizenship-goes-into-effect/[/url] Sorry if the formatting is off, I'm posting this from my phone. This is so fucked up. Essentially this sets a precedent for the government deporting people without trial, even if they were born in Canada and have no real connection to the country the government deports them to. It's really unsettling for me, as my partner wasn't born here, but fled from Ukraine in the 90s when folks in his hometown started hurting Jews. He's been a citizen for years but under this law if he did or said something disagreeable they could strip his citizenship and basically exile him. Furthermore he's trans and his experience would be likely worse than most. It's not like I expect myself or my loved ones to be accused of supporting terrorism, but the fact that they [b]could [/b]be with little to no chance of appeal is frightening and utterly beyond reason.[/QUOTE] This is actually just a reflection of international law. You cannot make a person and apatride. But you can strip someone of his or her citizenship if that would not make them an apatride.

Cool according to the article, I can now lose my citizenship even though I was born and lived my entire life in Canada.

That's some pretty fucked up shit.

And to think that if my dad hadn't finally followed through and gotten his Canadian citizenship a few years ago after moving up here from the US almost 40 years ago, I could conceivably be given the boot and sent to a country I've only visited in short, infrequent vacations if the Canadian government finds a need to get rid of me. And considering the recent attempts at bullshit, like making it criminal to advocate boycotting Israel, as well as Harper's irrational hateboner for weed (mandatory minimums don't work, nobody asked for them, but hey, now we have them), I can't sit back and say "this would never possibly apply to me".

Jeez, this is exactly what [url=http://www.smh.com.au/comment/tony-abbott-rolled-by-his-own-ministers-over-stripping-terrorists-of-citizenship-20150529-ghcuxf.html]Australia is trying to bring in[/url].

born in canada, my dad is french so I got my dual nationality early on when still a kid 2nd class citizen in my home country

[QUOTE=Tmaxx;47885308]Every single country that conservatives have power in, they are corrupted and pure evil. Why do people think voting for them is a good idea ever?[/QUOTE] You can thank Rupert Murdoch for making the conservative victories possible [editline]6th June 2015[/editline] Oust out the tories and get NDP in the chair tbh

It's a trap and you guys are all falling for it. Idk how it's been in the rest of Canada but here in NS the Harper government is getting serious shit from the cbc and other media. Our fisheries sciences have been crippled by Harper's "for the oil or not at all" approach to funding, our economy's racked because we have no oil, our entire DMV and other services are about to be privatized. From our point of view it looks like our oil centric economy is about to implode from the states oil boom and there's a senate expense scandal is going full steam ahead. There's been something new under the conservatives that hasn't really happened before. All branches of the government, from social services to economists to scientists have been gagged. No one goes to he media without consent from ontario. No data gets released without going through ontario. There's a policy of media control like no other going on right now like no other and you're seeing it in action. Every time a new government scandal pops up, another one covers its tracks. With everything going down its this that will get he attention from all the media outlets. That oppressed immigrant story that just yanks at the old heart. They know what the opposition media wants, and they're gonna keep feeding it to their bowls as long as it keeps them from finding the kibble bag. Don't get me wrong, it's completely disgusting that this happened as well, but with all the shit going down righ now, I'd be happy to know that I may soon no longer be a canadian citizen.

You guys have an election coming up, what does your opinion polls say about support for the conservatives up against NDP and the libs

[QUOTE=A_Pigeon;47888720] Don't get me wrong, it's completely disgusting that this happened as well, but with all the shit going down righ now, I'd be happy to know that I may soon no longer be a canadian citizen.[/QUOTE] Best to be optimistic. We have a NDP government in Alberta so It seems like anything could happen if people get angry enough.

[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;47883845]Wow I thought Canada was the last sane country on this planet. Damn.[/QUOTE] This world was insane from the very first day a man hit another in the head with a rock. It's a lovely, dangerous, beautiful, frightening and interesting world we live in. This makes it weigh a bit more towards "frightening" Nationalism really is on the rise again.

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;47888807]You guys have an election coming up, what does your opinion polls say about support for the conservatives up against NDP and the libs[/QUOTE] I think I saw one last week showing Conservatives getting 32-34 percent, NDP getting around 30, Liberals getting mid to high 20's, then BQ and Greens both getting between 4-7 percent each. [editline]6th June 2015[/editline] [URL]http://www.threehundredeight.com/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Damjen;47887079]So wait, let me get this straight, the country that was created by european immigrants will now treat immigrants like second-class citizens to "protect their culture/heritage" (created by european immigrants) [B]What[/B] And how exactly does that stop the terrorist acts from happening anyway. It's probably going to add fuel to the fire instead.[/QUOTE] You do realize the native Americans didn't have the Europeans sign any official papers to gain citizenship right? The Europeans were conquerors, not migrants.

[QUOTE=LVL FACTORY;47886884]That's because they don't wanna be overrun by foreigners and have their culture extinct[/QUOTE] I think white North Americans probably know how to combat that considering they already did it.

Fucking Harper, he had this election, he didn't need to do stupid shit, Justin's a fucking hack and Mulcair will probably ruin the economy and somehow Harper has proven to be worse. Fuck it, I'm voting NDP this year. This fucking moron just made me a second class citizen despite being born here. Because my mother is an American and I can get American citizenship. He's gone completely fucking insane.

So for example people like my mom, who has both a Canadian and British citizenship, would be considered a second class citizen?

[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;47891957]So for example people like my mom, who has both a Canadian and British citizenship, would be considered a second class citizen?[/QUOTE] Yep. And it's not just immigrants - if you were born here and happen to have the opportunity to claim dual citizenship, that's also grounds for your Canadian passport to be yanked which means you will then belong to no country on earth. This ham-fisted attempt to prevent terrorism has displaced millions of people to the proverbial back of the bus, where they can be ejected if needed just because they came from another country. The worst part is that this has happened before; [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_tax_%28Canada%29"]in 1885, Parliament put out a 'head tax' which fined each Chinese man, woman and child who entered the country because of the colour of their skin. [/URL]

Doesn't this defeat the Bill of Rights enacted in the 1960's. If so couldn't a federal court strike it down?

Just checked Wikipedia, found something relevant: [quote]An Act to amend the Citizenship Act (S.C. 2008, c. 14) (previously Bill C-37) came into effect on 17 April 2009 and changed the rules for foreign-born Canadian citizenship. Individuals born outside Canada can now become Canadian citizens by descent only if at least one of their parents was either a native-born citizen or a foreign-born but naturalized citizen of Canada. The new law limits citizenship by descent to only one generation born outside Canada. All individuals born outside Canada but within one generation of the native-born or naturalized citizen parent are automatically recognized as Canadian citizens. [B]The second generation born abroad, however, are not citizens of Canada at birth. Such individuals might even be stateless if they have no claim to any other citizenship. [/B] Since the passage of Bill C-37,[B] this situation has already occurred at least twice.[/B] Rachel Chandler was born in China, to a Libyan-born father who is a Canadian citizen through the provision in the above paragraph and a mother who is a Chinese citizen. Due to the nationality laws of Canada and China, she was not eligible for citizenship of either country and was apparently born stateless. However, because Rachel Chandler's paternal grandfather was born in Ireland, she was entitled to Irish citizenship, and now holds an Irish passport. Chloé Goldring was born in Belgium, to a Canadian father born in Bermuda and an Algerian mother. Due to the nationality laws of Belgium, Canada and Algeria, she was not eligible for citizenship of any of those countries and was born stateless. Chloé Goldring is now a Canadian citizen. Under Bill C-37, the term "native-born" is construed strictly—children born outside of Canada to Canadian government employees working there, including diplomats and Canadian Forces personnel, are considered to be foreign-born. [b]The bill was intended to resolve the status of so-called"Lost Canadians"—people who considered themselves Canadians, with undeniable connections to the country, but had either lost or never been granted citizenship due to the vagaries of the country's previous nationality law.[/b][/quote]