[QUOTE=Steven :D;41720959]Kind of obvious whats going to happen if you decide to point a weapon at law enforcement [i]after[/i] they tell you to put it down.[/QUOTE]
yeah I'd just you know... not fucking argue with many trained professionals who have a gun pointed at me
really who wouldn't
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[QUOTE=Bredirish123;41721113]You would hope so for a police officer in New York.[/QUOTE]
I just imagined a shoot out where everyone but the criminals get shot
like 50 bodies of random people in the background
NY cops are generally aight
Time to roll out the retarded carpet for the people saying "Shoot him in the leg!"
HE A GOOD BOY
every time
[editline]5th August 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Mad.Hatter;41721793]Time to roll out the retarded carpet for the people saying "Shoot him in the leg!"[/QUOTE]
Shoot him in the leg so he can retaliate and shoot the cop back after he was given a warning! Great logic!
This is going to be yet another Trayvon Martin case.
RACISM!1!!
[QUOTE=adam1172;41721441]Wouldn't it be made more sense for the cop to shot his arms/legs to disable the kid?
I know its probabaly the heat of the moment and panic/tension stuff causing the cop to just aim at the boy and shoot, but if the cop purposely aimed for the jaw/head thats wrong man.[/QUOTE]
yeah my problem with this is that they didnt taser him nobody deserves to lose their life why dont we replace all guns with tasers and pepper spray so nobody has to die
[QUOTE=adam1172;41721441]Wouldn't it be made more sense for the cop to shot his arms/legs to disable the kid?
I know its probabaly the heat of the moment and panic/tension stuff causing the cop to just aim at the boy and shoot, but if the cop purposely aimed for the jaw/head thats wrong man.[/QUOTE]
1. When someone is pointing a gun at you, it's pretty hard to stay calm enough to aim for small, fast-moving targets like limbs
2. A shot to the leg/arm could still be lethal if it severs an artery
3. Honestly, the kid should have known what he was getting himself into by refusing an order from an armed cop to drop his weapon
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;41721547]Hmm, the slide is all the way back, could it have been suicide by cop?[/QUOTE]
I'm not a cop but I think they make sure a gun is unloaded after an incident like this.
[QUOTE=Hunterdnrc;41722053]I'm not a cop but I think they make sure a gun is unloaded after an incident like this.[/QUOTE]
Why leave it on the ground though?
Another wanna-be thug is off the streets, sounds like a good days work to me.
[QUOTE=Zero Ziat;41721401][url=http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2013/08/05/news/web_photos/cop_shot--300x300.jpg]picture of suspect/bloody gun[/url]
welp that's the end of him[/QUOTE]
why does he have such small hands
and why is your avatar betty boop boobs
[QUOTE=Greenen72;41721897]yeah my problem with this is that they didnt taser him nobody deserves to lose their life why dont we replace all guns with tasers and pepper spray so nobody has to die[/QUOTE]
Tasers don't always stop a suspect, like when they have a thick jacket or are high on something. Hell, there are cases that the suspect might have a weak heart and the shock could kill him.
[editline]5th August 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=adam1172;41721441]Wouldn't it be made more sense for the cop to shot his arms/legs to disable the kid?
I know its probabaly the heat of the moment and panic/tension stuff causing the cop to just aim at the boy and shoot, but if the cop purposely aimed for the jaw/head thats wrong man.[/QUOTE]
Guns are meant to kill, not simply injure. Have you ever used a firearm before?
[QUOTE=adam1172;41721441]Wouldn't it be made more sense for the cop to shot his arms/legs to disable the kid?
I know its probabaly the heat of the moment and panic/tension stuff causing the cop to just aim at the boy and shoot, but if the cop purposely aimed for the jaw/head thats wrong man.[/QUOTE]
Oh for gods sake.
Shooting someone in the arm or leg can and probably will still kill them.
I came into this thread expecting another tragic misunderstanding, but if the lad aimed his gun at armed police, well, that's just dumb. It would have been better if he were incapacitated instead of killed, though.
#justice4shaaliverdouse
[QUOTE=Kai-ryuu;41722087]why does he have such small hands
and why is your avatar betty boop boobs[/QUOTE]
That picture of him is more then 3 years old.
[QUOTE=Kahgarak;41722262]I came into this thread expecting another tragic misunderstanding, but if the lad aimed his gun at armed police, well, that's just dumb. It would have been better if he were incapacitated instead of killed, though.[/QUOTE]
If someone points a gun at you, the last thing you'll be thinking of is taking them in alive [i]after you tell them to put the fucking thing down[/i].
you know i'm all for hating cops and things, and I';d say it was justified, but please don't celebrate the murder of a 14 year old boy whether it was justified or not
[QUOTE=Steven :D;41722321]If someone points a gun at you, the last thing you'll be thinking of is taking them in alive [i]after you tell them to put the fucking thing down[/i].[/QUOTE]
Aye, I would probably have ended up doing the same thing in the heat of the moment. It's tragic, but understandable.
You'd have to be brain-dead gelatinous zooplankton to find anything similar between this and Trayvon Martin, or that there was any other option than to shoot him.
This is why cops don't aim for arms and legs
[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8b/Gray548.png[/IMG]
[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Gray1235.png[/IMG]
These are big ass arteries.
If you feel you need to shoot someone to defend yourself, then you need to shoot to kill. It's not a hard concept to grasp. You are shooting to kill because you need to stop that person RIGHT NOW before you are killed.
If you feel you can do just as well by firing a warning shot, or shooting the person in the arm or leg, that proves it's not self defense. You are in effect trying to discourage that person from attacking you, a luxury you would not have if your life was in imminent danger.
[QUOTE=Griffster26;41722594]This is why cops don't aim for arms and legs
[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8b/Gray548.png[/IMG]
[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Gray1235.png[/IMG]
These are big ass arteries.[/QUOTE]
small and fast-moving target compared to torso
[QUOTE=adam1172;41721441]Wouldn't it be made more sense for the cop to shot his arms/legs to disable the kid?
I know its probabaly the heat of the moment and panic/tension stuff causing the cop to just aim at the boy and shoot, but if the cop purposely aimed for the jaw/head thats wrong man.[/QUOTE]
Shots to the arm/leg are contrary to popular belief not non/less lethal, due to those areas being major organs and as such having substantial arteries going through them. For example, a wound to the femoral artery in the leg will cause the victim to bleed out very quickly.
It is for this reason that the argument of "why didn't they aim for the leg/arm" isn't really valid; if a police officer has deemed that a situation requires the perpetrator to be shot, there is nowhere on the body that is a "safe" place to aim for. Once the situation has escalated to that level (which, given that the officers had a gun pointed at them, this one had), you shoot to kill or you die. It's harsh, but the unfortunate truth.
EDIT: Also I appear to be late.
People who are arguing that this is going to turn into another 'Trayvon Martin' don't understand why the case itself blew up in the manner that it did
Unlike the shooting in Florida, this particular shooting isn't being justified by a controversial law, one particularly opposed by progressive groups, nor was it as initially ambiguous as the case in Florida was, regarding whether or not Zimmerman was acting in self defence
I'm all for taking potshots at sensationalist media, but pick your battles
[QUOTE=Judas;41722390]you know i'm all for hating cops and things, and I';d say it was justified, but please don't celebrate the murder of a 14 year old boy whether it was justified or not[/QUOTE]
Not murder, man.
Murder is unlawful.
This was law [I]enforcement![/I]
[QUOTE=Lolkork;41723071]Why are people rating this winner out of all things? Yes, what the officer did was justified but its still a huge tragedy and a horrible experience for everyone involved.[/QUOTE]
because, people getting killed is awesome!
[QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;41723411]because, people getting killed is awesome![/QUOTE]
Hell, I'd try getting killed at least once in my lifetime.
Why didn't they just shoot the gun out of his hand?
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;41722080]Why leave it on the ground though?[/QUOTE]
To photograph and document the scene accurately.
It's crime investigation 101.
[QUOTE=adam1172;41721441]Wouldn't it be made more sense for the cop to shot his arms/legs to disable the kid?
I know its probabaly the heat of the moment and panic/tension stuff causing the cop to just aim at the boy and shoot, but if the cop purposely aimed for the jaw/head thats wrong man.[/QUOTE]
Why is there always someone saying "Shoot them in the leg!" in these threads? You NEVER shoot to wound, if you point a gun at someone you better plan on killing/destroying it
There are two reliable ways to forcibly incapacitate someone by shooting them: penetrate deep enough to hit central nervous tissue (fastest) or through blood loss (inefficient). Otherwise, it's because the person getting shot suffered a mental defeat as a result of getting shot/the pain of getting shot and gave in. Tell me how much major central nervous tissue is in your arms and legs? (Not to mention shooting them in the leg doesnt stop them from shooting at you anyway?) Also, many times people shoot someone in the leg anyway with the intent of "shooting to wound" because they're dumb, and end up killing them because they hit an artery
Police DO NOT shoot to wound, they never should, and I'm glad they don't.
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