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It's only pointing out what should be covered, part of the face and the tits. Burkas are a little fucking overboard.
No, it doesn't explain what should be covered, thus people can interpert it as it should cover the entire body.
Read it again, holy fuck you posted it.
"Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty......And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what ordinarily appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms...." (Quran 24:30,31). Please reveal to me where does it say that it should only cover "part of the face and the tits"?
bos·om/ˈbo͝ozəm/ Noun: A woman's chest. And the gaze thing.
I agree with Warhol, only fake Islam oppresses women. Real Islam is much less sexist, it teaches that men and women are seperate but equal. This is completely fair, which is why America used the system for their water fountains and public amenities for decades.
[QUOTE=Warhol;23590556]bos·om/ˈbo͝ozəm/ Noun: A woman's chest. And the gaze thing.[/QUOTE] It doesn't define which part of the face and how much of it should be exposed.
[QUOTE=lazyguy;23590819]I agree with Warhol, only fake Islam oppresses women. Real Islam is much less sexist, it teaches that men and women are seperate but equal. This is completely fair, which is why America used the system for their water fountains and public amenities for decades.[/QUOTE] Women in Islam are not separate but equal [editline]04:43PM[/editline] [QUOTE=ohadje;23590903]It doesn't define which part of the face and how much of it should be exposed.[/QUOTE] It says right fucking there what should be covered. [editline]04:43PM[/editline] there is only one fucking chest on a woman.
[QUOTE=Warhol;23590917]Women in Islam are not separate but equal[/QUOTE] Are you a Muslim warhol? And how can you say that they are equal? For instance, men are allowed to hit their woman and in court a woman's testimony isn't equal to a man's testimony in their reliability. [quote]It says right fucking there what should be covered.[/quote] You are a terrible, terrible troll. It doesn't define what part should be covered on the face, and that's the difference between Burka and Hijab.
[QUOTE=ohadje;23590955]Are you a Muslim warhol?[/quote] no, I'm Jewish. [quote]And how can you say that they are equal? For instance, men are allowed to hit their woman and in court a woman's testimony isn't equal to a man's testimony in their reliability.[/quote] This is exactly what I'm talking about, this pseudo-Islam. That's extremists. At least with the bible, I can provide passages. [quote]You are a terrible, terrible troll. It doesn't define what part should be covered on the face, and that's the difference between Burka and Hijab.[/QUOTE] lern2read it says bosom what other bosoms are on the female body [editline]05:02PM[/editline] oh, of course, I'm defending Islam with pretty valid claims, I must be fucking trolling. you throw the troll card around more then anyone else on this fucking forum, stop fucking calling anyone you don't agree with a troll. It's annoying as fuck
[quote]no, I'm Jewish.[/quote] Haha, if that's true it's fucking hilarious. [quote]This is exactly what I'm talking about, this pseudo-Islam. That's extremists. At least with the bible, I can provide passages. [/quote] It's in the motherfucking Quran. How can you call it extremism and pesuado Islam when the holy book of the religion states that? Seriously, this is getting absurd. "If they party liable is mentally deficient, or weak, or unable Himself to dictate, Let his guardian dictate faithfully, and get two witnesses, out of your own men, and if there are not two men, then a man and two women, such as ye choose, for witnesses, so that if one of them errs, the other can remind her." (2:282) As you can see, it says that if you can't two man, get a man and 2 women. This demonstrates the inequality between a man's testimony and a woman's testimony. And here's a premission to hit your wife if she doesn't obey you: "Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all)." (4:34) So much for equality, right? [quote]lern2read it says bosom[/quote] Oh, wow. It says it should cover the bosom but doesn't define which parts of the face should be covered. Should I spell it out for you? [quote]oh, of course, I'm defending Islam with pretty valid claims, I must be fucking trolling. [/quote] Well, since you aren't trolling, I would say you are a horrible, terrible poster. oh and, "And women shall have rights similar to the rights against them, according to what is equitable; but men have a degree (of advantage) over them. And Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise." [2:228] It says it right there, men have a degree over women.
[QUOTE=Warhol;23590917]Women in Islam are not separate but equal[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.jannah.org/sisters/statuswomen.html[/url] The rights and responsibilities of a woman are equal to those of a man but they are not necessarily identical with them. [url]http://www.islam101.com/women/womlib.html[/url] "By the creation of the male and female; Verily, (the ends) ye strive for are diverse." (92:3-4) "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend of their wealth (for the support of women)." (4:34) [url]http://www.themuslimwoman.com/herrights/womensrights.htm[/url] Outside employment should not come before, or seriously interfere with her responsibilities [B]as wife[/B] and mother. Her work should not be a source of friction within the family, and the husband’s consent is required in order to eliminate later disagreements. [B]If she is not married, she must have her guardian’s consent.[/B] Her appearance, manner and tone of speech and overall behavior should follow Islamic guidelines. These include: restraining her glances in relation to any men near the work place, wearing correct Islamic dress, avoiding men, [B]not walking in a provocative manner, and not using make-up or perfume in public.[/B] [B]Her job should not be one which is mixing and associating with men.[/B] A woman should try to seek employment in positions which require a woman’s special skills, or which relate to the needs of women and children, such as [B]teaching, nursing other women, midwifery, medicine with specialization’s like pediatric or obstetrics-gynecology[/B]. [url]http://www.womeninislam.ws/en/misconceptions_household-responsibilities.aspx[/url] This verse emphasizes that the financial and moral responsibilities of a household is the husband's responsibility. The natural, physical and social qualities of men demand that they take charge of these responsibilities since they are of the stronger gender and physically fit to work being free from the burden of menses, pregnancy, nursing and early childrearing. The man is the "guardian" of his own household - a shepherd of his flock in the idiom mentioned earlier - and he will be asked and accounted about all his responsibilities. Women by their natural constituency are the weaker sex, built biologically, emotionally and socially for their role as child bearer and homemaker. They are more endowed with intuition and emotional intelligence. I could go on but I don't want to embarrass you.
[QUOTE=Arrows;23534361]Muslims should never get any special treatment in the western world, islam is bellow christanity/hinduism/buddism etc because of the hatred and that little event we call 9/11. What should happen is it should be a family day FOR EVERYONE not some jumped up religion.[/QUOTE] Yes, all Muslims are responsible for 9/11. SNOOP DOGG DID WTC!
[QUOTE=lazyguy;23592278][url]http://www.jannah.org/sisters/statuswomen.html[/url] The rights and responsibilities of a woman are equal to those of a man but they are not necessarily identical with them. [url]http://www.islam101.com/women/womlib.html[/url] "By the creation of the male and female; Verily, (the ends) ye strive for are diverse." (92:3-4) "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend of their wealth (for the support of women)." (4:34) [url]http://www.themuslimwoman.com/herrights/womensrights.htm[/url] Outside employment should not come before, or seriously interfere with her responsibilities [B]as wife[/B] and mother. Her work should not be a source of friction within the family, and the husband’s consent is required in order to eliminate later disagreements. [B]If she is not married, she must have her guardian’s consent.[/B] Her appearance, manner and tone of speech and overall behavior should follow Islamic guidelines. These include: restraining her glances in relation to any men near the work place, wearing correct Islamic dress, avoiding men, [B]not walking in a provocative manner, and not using make-up or perfume in public.[/B] [B]Her job should not be one which is mixing and associating with men.[/B] A woman should try to seek employment in positions which require a woman’s special skills, or which relate to the needs of women and children, such as [B]teaching, nursing other women, midwifery, medicine with specialization’s like pediatric or obstetrics-gynecology[/B]. [url]http://www.womeninislam.ws/en/misconceptions_household-responsibilities.aspx[/url] This verse emphasizes that the financial and moral responsibilities of a household is the husband's responsibility. The natural, physical and social qualities of men demand that they take charge of these responsibilities since they are of the stronger gender and physically fit to work being free from the burden of menses, pregnancy, nursing and early childrearing. The man is the "guardian" of his own household - a shepherd of his flock in the idiom mentioned earlier - and he will be asked and accounted about all his responsibilities. Women by their natural constituency are the weaker sex, built biologically, emotionally and socially for their role as child bearer and homemaker. They are more endowed with intuition and emotional intelligence. I could go on but I don't want to embarrass you.[/QUOTE] The problem here is you're looking at this as if religious law is only fucking for Women, men are under many laws as well that if the roles were reversed, you would probably think Males were oppressed in Islam. the narcissism of males is nothing new, they are equal under Islamic law, but like 99% of humanity in those times, and even in recent times, males were considered stronger and thus were supposed to be in charge. [editline]07:03PM[/editline] [QUOTE=ohadje;23591731]Haha, if that's true it's fucking hilarious.[/quote] "if it's true"? fuck off [quote]It's in the motherfucking Quran. How can you call it extremism and pesuado Islam when the holy book of the religion states that? Seriously, this is getting absurd. "If they party liable is mentally deficient, or weak, or unable Himself to dictate, Let his guardian dictate faithfully, and get two witnesses, out of your own men, and if there are not two men, then a man and two women, such as ye choose, for witnesses, so that if one of them errs, the other can remind her." (2:282)[/quote] ok? how is this relevant? [quote]As you can see, it says that if you can't two man, get a man and 2 women. This demonstrates the inequality between a man's testimony and a woman's testimony. [/quote] this is regarding justice, nothing social... separate but equal =/= authority over women due to primal thought. [quote]And here's a premission to hit your wife if she doesn't obey you: "Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all)." (4:34) So much for equality, right?[/quote] Bible says the same shit. [quote]Oh, wow. It says it should cover the bosom but doesn't define which parts of the face should be covered. Should I spell it out for you?[/quote] burka - covers all bosom - is a chest passage - says: cover chest, face is ambiguous. Do I NEED to spell it out for you? [quote]Well, since you aren't trolling, I would say you are a horrible, terrible poster.[/quote] lol, says the Israeli apologist. [quote]oh and, "And women shall have rights similar to the rights against them, according to what is equitable; but men have a degree (of advantage) over them. And Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise." [2:228] It says it right there, men have a degree over women.[/QUOTE] As I said, men feeling they're power is greater then women is old as humanity itself.
[quote]ok? how is this relevant?[/quote] You said men and women are equal in Islam, this is relevant by demonstrating they are not. [quote]this is regarding justice, nothing social... separate but equal =/= authority over women due to primal thought. [/quote] Haha, how can you say that the Quran says they are equal after this? You're just ridiculous... [QUOTE]Bible says the same shit.[/quote] The Bible doesn't have any passage that says or can be interperted as a premission for men to hit their wives. [QUOTE]burka - covers all bosom - is a chest passage - says: cover chest, face is ambiguous. Do I NEED to spell it out for you?[/quote] You're just strengthening my case, this is the exact thing I said, and I quote: "No, it doesn't explain what should be covered, thus people can interpert it as it should cover the entire body". [quote]As I said, men feeling they're power is greater then women is old as humanity itself.[/quote] So we agree that men and women are not equal in Islam, fair enough. [quote]The problem here is you're looking at this as if religious law is only fucking for Women, men are under many laws as well that if the roles were reversed, you would probably think Males were oppressed in Islam.[/quote] lol, compared to women, men in Islam are by far suprior on every aspect.
Even if there isn't written only face should be covered and not the whole body, even if it was their right to choose to create the burqa, it's still a man's choice to affirm the woman's status as a possession, a private good. It's a clearly sexist choice made some centuries ago, which is still respected nowadays because extremist Islam practitioners forcing women to wear this (the good ol' "shut the fuck up, cook me something and make babies"...) are using a religion to keep in track an archaic and completely out of context opinion. This shouldn't even exist anymore in the 21st century. It's always the same with religion : written by men, for men, just fuck women they are just made to shut it up and make babies. Even if the rules of Islam stipulate that no woman should gather around here the desire of men except her own husband or whatever, they are still voluntary modified and misunderstood (or "overunderstood") by men to give them the ability to jail women. I don't doubt men have some rules to follow too, but they aren't making them that submissive, most of them are about helping the poor, not drinking wine or any other alcohol, not playing luck based game, and not cheating your wife(s).
[QUOTE=z0nk3d;23594120]Even if there isn't written only face should be covered and not the whole body, even if it was their right to choose to create the burqa, it's still a man's choice to affirm the woman's status as a possession, a private good. It's a clearly sexist choice made some centuries ago, which is still respected nowadays because extremist Islam practitioners forcing women to wear this (the good ol' "shut the fuck up, cook me something and make babies"...) are using a religion to keep in track an archaic and completely out of context opinion. This shouldn't even exist anymore in the 21st century.[/QUOTE] I'm in hope that Islam will have a theological revolution that will modernise and moderate it so it will become less opressive.
[QUOTE=ohadje;23594069]You said men and women are equal in Islam, this is relevant by demonstrating they are not. [/quote] It says in the passage they're equal. Then pulls this superiority complex. Want to argue that, go ahead. [quote]Haha, how can you say that the Quran says they are equal after this? You're just ridiculous...[/quote] Again, you fucking illiterate little fuckwit, gender authority does not mean they're not equal. [quote]The Bible doesn't have any passage that says or can be interperted as a premission for men to hit their husbends.[/quote] Your spelling is atrocious. Ephesians 5:22 "Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord." Then again, the bible is filled with goodies: beat your kids, beat your slave, women can't speak in church, you can sell your daughter to slavery, and gays get the stone! hmmmmmm obviously its the evil brown muslim people faults. [quote]You're just strengthening my case, this is the exact thing I said, and I quote: "No, it doesn't explain what should be covered, thus people can interpert it as it should cover the entire body".[/quote] well golly, the book says i need to have my wife's bosom covered... hmm, guess i better cover her whole body! how many bosoms do women have? [quote]So we agree that men and women are not equal in Islam, fair enough.[/quote] learn to fucking read you illiterate fuck [quote]lol, compared to women, men in Islam are by far suprior on every aspect.[/QUOTE] men are considered the authority. it's the same everywhere. [editline]07:29PM[/editline] [QUOTE=ohadje;23594187]I'm in hope that Islam will have a theological revolution that will modernise and moderate it so it will become less opressive.[/QUOTE] or in other words, rid fundamentalists
Don't mess up with the words, Warhol, there are fundamentalists and extremists. Fundamentalists just wanna get back to the sources of religion, it can be helpful sometimes, and sometimes not. When it's not helpful and really to leading to too much zeal, it create extremists. Extremists are killing and using terror and oppression to force their ideas, and that's what fucks up the Islamic religion, because there is a shitload of extremists who make shit and pollute the religion by using it as a weapon of mass destruction. It was the case with other religions for sure (in France, kings were using religion to claim there were king because of god's choice and so they could have full authority on the kingdom since they only had to explain themselves to god), but damn it was three centuries ago, can't human beings evolve for once, damn it ?!
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[QUOTE=Warhol;23577642]I think the PATRIOT act is little more fucked up them banning a veil.[/QUOTE] The patriot act was incredibly fucked up, but it had nothing to do with religion or race. Which is the topic here.
[QUOTE=ohadje;23594069]You said men and women are equal in Islam, this is relevant by demonstrating they are not. Haha, how can you say that the Quran says they are equal after this? You're just ridiculous... The Bible doesn't have any passage that says or can be interperted as a premission for men to hit their wives. You're just strengthening my case, this is the exact thing I said, and I quote: "No, it doesn't explain what should be covered, thus people can interpert it as it should cover the entire body". So we agree that men and women are not equal in Islam, fair enough. lol, compared to women, men in Islam are by far suprior on every aspect.[/QUOTE] Just forget it he's making shit up because he doesn't know to quit while he's ahead. [editline]07:50PM[/editline] Or behind, whatever.
It's funny how you've gone so defensive and regaurly use pejorative words. It reflects your maturity and your terrible abillity to debate. [QUOTE]It says in the passage they're equal. Then pulls this superiority complex. Want to argue that, go ahead.[/quote] No, it doesn't say they are equal. Lets read the passage again: "If they party liable is mentally deficient, or weak, or unable Himself to dictate, Let his guardian dictate faithfully, and get two witnesses, out of your own men, and if there are not two men, then a man and two women, such as ye choose, for witnesses, so that if one of them errs, the other can remind her." (2:282) The passage is clearly saying that the testimony of two women equats a testimony of one man. It's hilarious you insist otherwise. [quote]Again, you fucking illiterate little fuckwit, gender authority does not mean they're not equal. [/quote] If a man's testimony does not equate a woman's testimony, how can they be equal? Doesn't equality mean that they hold the same value? [quote]Ephesians 5:22 "Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord."[/quote] Of course the Bible is rather sexist, violent and absurd - but lets be accurate. It doesn't state anywhere that men have premission to beat their wives. [QUOTE]obviously its the evil brown muslim people faults. [/quote] I love how you call them brown on every occasion, it just shows your stereotype-filled prespective on Muslims. [QUOTE]well golly, the book says i need to have my wife's bosom covered... hmm, guess i better cover her whole body![/quote] You're clearly having a hard time understanding what you're reading, and although English is your native language your English reading comprehension is pretty horrible. So, since I'm such a kind person, lets move on to a more clear and child-freindly verses: 1. O Prophet! Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them (when they go abroad). That will be better, so that they may be recognised and not annoyed. Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful. (33:59) 2. "And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or the slaves whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex; and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O ye Believers! turn ye all together towards Allah, that ye may attain Bliss. " (24:31) There are also countless verses from the tales of Mohammad in the Hadith that state that women should cover themselves with cloaks and veils. If you are refusing to recognize that [i]now[/i], I will simply have to yet again conclude you're trolling. [quote]learn to fucking read you illiterate fuck[/quote] Men saw themselves suprior to women at these times, and this was reflected in what the writers of the Quran wrote. Islam doesn't see men and women equal, and it clearly says that men are in one degree above women: "And women shall have rights similar to the rights against them, according to what is equitable; but men have a degree (of advantage) over them. And Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise." [2:228]
[QUOTE=GunFox;23594854]The patriot act was incredibly fucked up, but it had nothing to do with religion or race. Which is the topic here.[/QUOTE] gunfox, that's pretty fucking naive. The amount of racial profiling in the name of the patriot act pretty much proves this wrong. [editline]07:57PM[/editline] [QUOTE=lazyguy;23595008]Just forget it he's making shit up because he doesn't know to quit while he's ahead. [editline]07:50PM[/editline] Or behind, whatever.[/QUOTE] the fuck are you talking about?
[QUOTE=Warhol;23595193]gunfox, that's pretty fucking naive. The amount of racial profiling in the name of the patriot act pretty much proves this wrong. [editline]07:57PM[/editline] the fuck are you talking about?[/QUOTE] the fuck you think i'm talking about?
Also, God is always described as a man. If the Bible and the Quran were supposed to treat men and women the same, God would simply have no possible sexual differentiation elements. Almost same statement with prophets : never women. At least the bible counts saint women, not sure about Quran though but to be honest I'm not even sure saints are part of their religion.
[QUOTE=z0nk3d;23595300]Also, God is always described as a man. If the Bible and the Quran were supposed to treat men and women the same, God would simply have no possible sexual differentiation elements.[/QUOTE] Well, honestly in the Hebrew Bible the sex of God is unclear - vast majority of the times God is refered as 'he' but on some occasions it's a she (very rarely, though). [quote] Almost same statement with prophets : never women. At least the bible counts saint women, not sure about Quran though but to be honest I'm not even sure saints are part of their religion.[/quote] There was one female prophet in the Hebrew Bible: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deborah[/url]
[QUOTE=ohadje;23595036]It's funny how you've gone so defensive and regaurly use pejorative words. It reflects your maturity and your terrible abillity to debate.[/quote] oh right, totally not like you've done it before. [quote]No, it doesn't say they are equal. Lets read the passage again: "If they party liable is mentally deficient, or weak, or unable Himself to dictate, Let his guardian dictate faithfully, and get two witnesses, out of your own men, and if there are not two men, then a man and two women, such as ye choose, for witnesses, so that if one of them errs, the other can remind her." (2:282) The passage is clearly saying that the testimony of two women equats a testimony of one man. It's hilarious you insist otherwise.[/quote] Again, this is fucking judiciary. [quote]If a man's testimony does not equate a woman's testimony, how can they be equal? Doesn't equality mean that they hold the same value?[/quote] Their word is not equal in a third party in trial, yes, that's fucked up, but it's a lot better then what the US used to fucking do. and this is older. [quote]Of course the Bible is rather sexist, violent and absurd - but lets be accurate. It doesn't state anywhere that men have premission to beat their wives.[/quote] That [quote]I love how you call them brown on every occasion, it just shows your stereotype-filled prespective on Muslims.[/quote] yes im the racist oh no! [quote]You're clearly having a hard time understanding what you're reading, and although English is your native language your English reading comprehension is pretty horrible. So, since I'm such a kind person, lets move on to a more clear and child-freindly verses:[/quote] nothing but arrogant shit. [quote]1. O Prophet! Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them (when they go abroad). That will be better, so that they may be recognised and not annoyed. Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful. (33:59)[/quote] It doesn't really say over their heads and shit. [quote]2. "And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or the slaves whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex; and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O ye Believers! turn ye all together towards Allah, that ye may attain Bliss. " (24:31)[/quote] great fucking job, boyo, you negated 2/3 of the passage in your previous post. [quote]There are also countless verses from the tales of Mohammad in the Hadith that state that women should cover themselves with cloaks and veils. If you are refusing to recognize that [i]now[/i], I will simply have to yet again conclude you're trolling.[/quote] you've provided two ambiguous ones. The second talking about hijabs. [quote]Men saw themselves suprior to women at these times, and this was reflected in what the writers of the Quran wrote. Islam doesn't see men and women equal, and it clearly says that men are in one degree above women: [/quote] Christ sake, pay a-fucking-tention: men, since the beginning of time, have seen women as weaker and in need of both protection and control. Now that does not mean they are not equal. [quote]"And women shall have rights similar to the rights against them, according to what is equitable; but men have a degree (of advantage) over them. And Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise." [2:228][/QUOTE] If you look into the passages before, it talks of strength.
[QUOTE=Warhol;23595193]gunfox, that's pretty fucking naive. The amount of racial profiling in the name of the patriot act pretty much proves this wrong. [/QUOTE] Naive? What? Was racial profiling not going to happen otherwise? The patriot act didn't give anyone a license to racially profile. In fact, title I of the patriot act spells out that EVERYONE has equal rights, even under the patriot act, in as blunt a fashion as is humanly possible. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_PATRIOT_Act,_Title_I[/url] In fact a good 90% of the patriot act is generally just a good idea. We didn't have suitable counter terrorism capabilities in place. This filled the gap. The problem only shows up with how they get warrants and surveillance. Which cops use against EVERYONE. In short: Patriot act has nothing to do with race. Cry more.
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