Six Flags to host Muslim Family day, conservatives outraged
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What can I say? You're fucking incredible.
[QUOTE]Again, this is fucking judiciary.[/quote]
So according to the Islamic judiciary a man's testimony equats two women's testimony. Thus, we can conclude that the value of a man's testimony is higher than a woman's testimony, leading to the only logical conclusion: Men are supirior to women in Islam.
I can't, really can't, explain it more clearly than that.
[quote]Their word is not equal in a third party in trial, yes, that's fucked up, but it's a lot better then what the US used to fucking do. and this is older.[/quote]
I have no knowledge of the American juidical history - but it's irrelevant, two wrongs don't make a right.
[QUOTE]yes im the racist oh no![/QUOTE]
You clearly have a stereotyped view of Muslims as brown people (occasionally they are little, as well).
[quote]It doesn't really say over their heads and shit. [/QUOTE]
Do you even try to understand? What does "Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them" mean other than having a headcover tight around the head? But that's ok, I have plenty and plenty of other quotes for you, you'll have to admit you're wrong - eventually, right?
"The khimar (pl. khumur) actually refers to the head covering, so that a better translation of 24:31 would be: "and to draw their headcovers (khumurihinna) over their bosoms..."(24:31)
It is essential to understand the two interpretations of the command to "draw their headcovers over" among the women of the Companions and the generation that immediately succeeded them, on which are based the two views of the Four Schools, namely, cover everything or expose only the face and hands:
Some women drew from the top down, some from the sides and over. The result for the first category was to cover the face, while the second category left the face uncovered according to one's own discretion."
[url]http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=514&CATE=2[/url]
This is a Muslim scholer explaining the verse a bit better.
And here are some Hadith quotes, for your enjoyment:
Abu Hurayra gave the following account of his mother's conversion: I came to the Prophet - Allah bless and greet him -- weeping one day and said: "O Messenger of Allah, I have been inviting my mother to Islam and she has been refusing. Today I asked her again, and she said something about you which I hated to hear. Ask Allah to guide Abu Hurayra's mother!" Whereupon the Prophet -- Allah bless and greet him -- said: "O Allah! Guide Abu Hurayra's mother." Then I returned home cheered up by the Prophet's -- Allah bless and greet him -- supplication. When I arrived at the door of the house I found it closed. Hearing my footsteps, my mother said: "Abu Hurayra, do not come in yet." I could hear the sound of water. She washed herself and wore her robe (dir') and headcover (khim�r) then she opened the door and said: "Abu Hurayra! I bear witness that there is no God but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's servant and messenger!" I returned at once to the Prophet -- Allah bless and greet him --, weeping for joy, and said to him: "O Messenger of Allah, good news! Allah has answered your request and guided my mother!" He glorified and praised Allah, thanking Him and saying good things. I said: "O Messenger of Allah! Ask Allah that He make me and my mother beloved to his believing servants and that He make them beloved to us." The Prophet – Allah bless and greet him -- said: "O Allah! Make Your little servant (here meaning Abu Hurayra) and his mother beloved to Your believing servants, and make the believers beloved to the two of them." Not one believer is brought into existence who hears about me without seeing me except he loves me.
Ayesha said: "By Allah, I never saw any women better than the women of the Ansar (i.e. the women of Madina) or stronger in their confirmation of Allah's Book! When Sura al-Nur was revealed -- "and to draw their 'khumur' over their bosoms" (24:31) -- their men went back to them reciting to them what Allah had revealed to them, each man reciting it to his wife, daughter, sister, and relative. Not one woman among them remained except she got up on the spot, tore up her waist-wrap and covered herself from head-to-toe (i`jtajarat) with it. They prayed the very next dawn prayer covered from head to toe (mu`tajirat)."
[quote]Christ sake, pay a-fucking-tention: men, since the beginning of time, have seen women as weaker and in need of both protection and control. Now that does not mean they are not equal.[/quote]
Islam doesn't [b]view[/b] men and women as equal. You can keep with the kicking and screaming, it won't change that fact and the amount of evidence for that are extremly large.
I won an iPod Touch out of a Six Flags claw machine.
Wait what are we talking about?
[QUOTE=ohadje;23595905]
So according to the Islamic judiciary a man's testimony equats two women's testimony. Thus, we can conclude that the value of a man's testimony is higher than a woman's testimony, leading to the only logical conclusion: Men are supirior to women in Islam. [/QUOTE]
how does this relate to six flags hosting muslim day
you can fault christianity and judaism for having dumb passages as well, it doesn't mean anyone follows them
[QUOTE=thisispain;23611539]how does this relate to six flags hosting muslim day
you can fault christianity and judaism for having dumb passages as well, it doesn't mean anyone follows them[/QUOTE]
The original debate turned into an argue about the burqa, which was also originally an argue about the veil being banned from public places in France.
Now that the problem is apparently solved (it began with me coming in the forum and giving my opinion about Glenn Beck, which someone didn't like because I am French and because I apparently shouldn't have any possible opinion about other countries), we will hopefully get back to the original debate.
[QUOTE=thisispain;23611539]how does this relate to six flags hosting muslim day
you can fault christianity and judaism for having dumb passages as well, it doesn't mean anyone follows them[/QUOTE]
It doesn't... the discussion has derailed a bit.
It's not surprising Glenn Beck would jump to this. Americans who listen to him are usually on the whole "dem mooslims r conspirin to take mah freedoms" mindset and the whole "dey attacked us!!" bandwagon.
What's more sad is that there are plenty of people nodding along with him, and he laughs all the way to the bank.
I thought privately owned businesses are allowed to do this kinda stuff anyway?
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;23612912]I thought privately owned businesses are allowed to do this kinda stuff anyway?[/QUOTE]
According to Beck and Co., gubmint is bad and evil and shouldn't touch hardworking businesses, unless it involves protecting American freedoms from *insert group*.
[QUOTE=MercZ;23612928]According to Beck and Co., gubmint is bad and evil and shouldn't touch hardworking businesses, unless it involves protecting American freedoms from *insert group*.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I was just thinking that, if it was the other way around (Christian Day) Glenn Beck would jump on the rights of private business vs evil government straight away.
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;23612912]I thought privately owned businesses are allowed to do this kinda stuff anyway?[/QUOTE]
Are businesses in the US allowed to disallow people from entering their businesses due to their ethnicity/race?
[QUOTE=ohadje;23612980]Are businesses in the US allowed to disallow people from entering their businesses due to their ethnicity/race?[/QUOTE]
No. It's part of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Bushinesses can deny services for other reason but if it is shown that it was done so on characteristics such as race or ethnicity, they'll can have charges brought up against them.
[QUOTE=ohadje;23612980]Are businesses in the US allowed to disallow people from entering their businesses due to their ethnicity/race?[/QUOTE]
no, and they're not doing that anyway.
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