• Doom 4 confirmed; Carmack apologizes for RAGE PC
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D'aww Carmack, it's okay. After releasing so many hit games you have to have one flop.
[QUOTE=Gears of duty;37066096]Rage was too shallow and didn't last very long. Not to mention the half-assed racing gimmick. Other than that the graphics and visuals were pretty good.[/QUOTE] i liked the race gimmick, the thing I hated was the pacing and the fact i had to spend 2 days learning how to fix all the texture tearing.
Why is this not on youtube, everything awesome exists on there 400 seperate times, why not this?
the [B]huge[/B] amount of ambience and detail in doom 3 is also pretty awesome, along with some of the very well hidden secrets. if you pay attention to everything around you, you can find all sorts of crazy stuff that would probably normally missed, like tunnels where you can see demons crawling around in, ghosts, blood stains suddenly appearing on the windows when the lights go out, etc. iirc there were about 14000 sound files used in doom 3, or at least it did at one point according to one of the id dudes in some article from a magazine from 2002 or so, and after looking in the files for a few hours i would not be surprised if that number is still the same i've also found that the baron of hell and the arachnotron/mastermind were going to be in the game, as there were leftover animation files for them if they can somehow combine everything that made doom 3 good with everything that made the 2 classics good, doom 4 will probably be insanely awesome
I had (have) a Nvidia driver when I played RAGE, got it during the Christmas Sale, AND HOLY SHIT THE BLUE! I'm just driving along, and I see that anything beyond 20 feet in front of the car has some texture issues. At least John Carmack admitted it
In Doom 4 I want to see Doom 1, 2, or Final Doom gameplay in actual 3D. Not that "hey guys we can be scary" attitude of Doom 3.
The ending of Rage was the worst game ending I've ever experienced, hell the game itself is one of the worst games I've played. Spend 10 hours doing literally NOTHING but fetching random shit for people, see 2 cities, kill a few dozen generic nameless baddies, and voila. You are rewarded with the most Disney 30 second nonsensical clip where a bunch of different ships or whatever start magically taking off together. The end. I'm glad I rented it, it took me fucking whopping 4 playing sessions to beat the miserable piece of crap.
I guess I was the only one that likes rage. It kinda reminded me of borderlands a little bit. You had cars in the giant hub worlds and then people in the towns would give you a billion missions and then you would go through linear level style dungeons and kill a bunch of people. I never got around to finishing it though because I got it for PC and then my computer broke and I didn't have the money to buy a new one that could play games.
Rage's graphics were shit. Only in characters did they ever use anything other than lambert shaders, and baked all the specular highlights into the textures. It's a poor illusion, combined with the fact that the Sunlight and skybox are static. The game is huge because of the masses of texture files, but other than a fast hard drive takes almost nothing to run. Games like Crysis actually have dynamic lighting and shaders so we see everything according to context, generated procedurally. Rage is just a game made to look killer in screenshots, but once you pay any attention to your surroundings, just comes apart.
[QUOTE=Bad Joe;37066399]sometimes i feel like the only person who absolutely loves doom 3 fun fact: many of the areas in doom 3 are actually based on old alpha versions of the levels from the first doom[/QUOTE] i play games for fun and entertainment value. doom 3 is definitely really fun
[QUOTE]Rage was a disappointment. Carmack admitted as much during his QuakeCon keynote, even apologizing for its "really poorly handled" PC launch. But in more ways than one, Carmack said id learned from its Rage mistakes and will not repeat them with Doom 4. "We've got the bulk of company on Doom 4, but it'll be done when it's done. We don't want people to read more into than they should. As we showed [Rage] year-after-year, we had a surprisingly large contingent of people that expected it to be like Fallout or Borderlands. And that hurt us in that it wasn't long for an RPG – even if it was for a shooter." [B]Carmack did say that Doom 4 will feature better tactical gameplay and a more interactive world, but he shied away from saying when we'll finally get to see it. [/B] [B]"We've made a lot of mistakes already with Doom 4,"[/B] Carmack said. "But prioritizing things that help us get the game done faster is hugely important. We just can't go another six years."[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Uber|nooB;37066255]I actually really liked all the designs in Doom 3; it's the cheap jump scares that really annoyed me.[/QUOTE] doom needs demons and not some generic and idiotic-looking alien mutant cyborg halfbreed stillborn tryhards
apology not accepted we'll see after doom 4
Playing Rage for longer than 30 minutes made me feel really...dizzy But overall I thought it was an [i]okay[/i] game, nothing special or ground breaking, but not terrible either
[img_thumb]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/632982837625483544/3382AD129D77BCBEAF8CA6653357898656F6E1E8/[/img_thumb] RAGE was GOTY 2011.
Rage was totally underrated but that's okay because it was overhyped.
[QUOTE=legolover122;37068967]I guess I was the only one that likes rage. It kinda reminded me of borderlands a little bit. You had cars in the giant hub worlds and then people in the towns would give you a billion missions and then you would go through linear level style dungeons and kill a bunch of people. I never got around to finishing it though because I got it for PC and then my computer broke and I didn't have the money to buy a new one that could play games.[/QUOTE] The ending is rage worthy, be glad you didn't finish it.
[QUOTE=MendozaMan;37066150]I don't get how they don't understand what makes a great game on PC. What road of decisions lead them to make that horribly linear game. Inside a sandbox world. I mean you have to force yourself to be terrible to make a sandbox linear :v:[/QUOTE] Postal 3
Yes, we get it. RAGE had a considerable deal of engine and graphical issues at release, what the fuck do you expect with a new next gen engine? Not every problem could be fixed until it was released to the public, not every rig is the same configuration. A company can only fix so much without mass feedback. Come on Facepunch! We have more logic than this!
[QUOTE=Delta616;37074787]Yes, we get it. RAGE had a considerable deal of engine and graphical issues at release, what the fuck do you expect with a new next gen engine? Not every problem could be fixed until it was released to the public, not every rig is the same configuration. A company can only fix so much without mass feedback. Come on Facepunch! We have more logic than this![/QUOTE] Drone
[QUOTE=SSBMX;37074869]Drone[/QUOTE] If you say so.
[QUOTE=SSBMX;37074869]Drone[/QUOTE] How the heck does that make him a drone?
[QUOTE=Tuskin;37074994]How the heck does that make him a drone?[/QUOTE] Because I am an idiot and has no knowledge of the industry I work in and wasted 4 years of my time, and a good amount of money in college to get a Masters Degree and certifications in the industry, and another 3 for a bachelor's degree in business management and administration.
RAGE is pretty fun and stable now
I still can't run Rage properly. The slow texture loading causes the game to run like shit. If I wait about 5 minutes in-game, it runs fine, and this is with the graphics settings set low. I don't think I've ever encountered such horrible issues in a game ever.
I bought Rage at launch and beat it fairly quickly. It's a gorgeous game, and it plays pretty well for the length it has, but it's too short, and tried to do too many things that it didn't do. If you don't think it's a good looking game, then I dunno what happened to your computer, but mine ran it perfectly from day one and I experienced very little texture pop in
Holy fuck yes Doom 4. I've been waiting forever for it/
Rage for 9.99usd on steam atm, really considering how bad are the gfx issues. Gametrailers review was pretty positive about how solid the fps was in the most intense action scenes.
[QUOTE=glennman94;37066655]I watched that whole keynote yesterday, damn that guy can talk. I've seen some of his keynotes in the past but it still amazes me how long he can ramble about without taking a single break.[/QUOTE] He's like the Jean-Luc of gaming.
Where's my Quake 5? Or atleast a remake of Quake 1 or 2. Damnit ID :saddowns:
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