Woman Sues Man Hit By Train For Injuries Caused By Flying Body Parts
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[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;33954870]Should have sued Amtrak instead. Why the hell was a train travelling at 70 miles an hour so close to a packed train station?[/QUOTE]
It was being a train and doing train things.
Then it's settled.
Sue Issac Newton. He invented physics.
[QUOTE=ChilColdCoolaid;33956599]Then it's settled.
Sue Issac Newton. He invented physics.[/QUOTE]
He's dead, though.
[QUOTE=Skerion;33956676]He's dead, though.[/QUOTE]
Oh come on.
There HAS to be someone she can sue that isn't the family of the dead guy or the mortified train driver.
[QUOTE=Esrange;33954785]While I was reading this news story I spilled coffee on my hand and burned myself.
I'm sueing Gayane Zokhrabov now[/QUOTE]
While I was rating you winner, I broke my finger.
Gonna sue you boy!!
[QUOTE=HolyCrusade;33954776]Not to sound insensitive, but I have to agree with the ruling. If the man is stupid enough to run across the tracks, he and his estate should be held responsible, even after death. It is not the woman's fault that his dismembered limbs hit her.[/QUOTE]
However, his own death is enough of a punishment, and to add to that would be inhuman.
How does she even has the nerve to sue a guy who was hit by a train, let alone because of the fact that his body was throw at her? Thats like sueing someone for getting hit by a truck because a tornado made it fly into your house.
I can't think of a better way to say it because this is silly. The only thing that comes to mind is people who sue other people when they trip on the sidewalks in front of their home.
I think the dead guy's family should sue her for body part theft.
She clearly intercepted the body parts on purpose.
He should be held responsible for her injuries, he should take other people's safety into account when he does something ass-backwards retarded like sprint across a train track without looking. It's his fault she's injured.
[QUOTE=Downsider;33957620]He should be held responsible for her injuries, he should take other people's safety into account when he does something ass-backwards retarded like sprint across a train track without looking. It's his fault she's injured.[/QUOTE]
It's pretty hard to be held responsible for something when you are dead.
[QUOTE=ChilColdCoolaid;33957672]It's pretty hard to be held responsible for something when you are dead.[/QUOTE]
Your belongings will go to somebody else, anything of value, including this debt that he owes her.
Shouldn't it be the railroad's responsibility? I mean when a person gets shot we don't arrest the gun or the bullet, we arrest the shooter.
If she has no health insurance she has every right to sue. It's his fault she got hit and he should pay for it, even if he is dead.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;33955319]What's so hard to understand about that?
Here's the Metra station:
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Since he was struck by a southbound train, the impact occurred 100 feet north of the platform. He was most likely either east or west of the railroad tracks, and attempted to cross over the tracks without looking both ways to reach the platform.
That person's body, when hit by a massive train travelling at over 70 miles per hour, has to go somewhere, doesn't it?[/QUOTE]
Its not where the body went thats the problem. Its the fact that they said it was reasonably foreseeable that a dude would get killed by the train. Its like they're seeing its the person's own fault for being near a train tracks.
[QUOTE=Downsider;33957751]Your belongings will go to somebody else, anything of value, including this debt that he owes her.[/QUOTE]
Your debt is absolutely not passed on to anyone else, and this isn't debt
debt is taken out of your estate, and if your estate isn't large enough to cover it all the difference just evaporates
In Japan they fine the families of people who commit suicide on the tracks for delay, cleanup and damages.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;33955102]And what about the psycological trauma of being seriously injured by a half-dismembered body that came flying at you, covering you in blood and guts and shit?[/QUOTE]
...since when were we all massive pussies? Have you never seen gore before? It's not that big of a fucking deal.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;33955102]I can't speak for every plan, but my health insurence only coveres a certain number of sessions with therapists. I'd imagine she would need more than four or five sessions a month to recover from that aspect of her injuries.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't project your daintiness onto others, mate.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;33955102]Making things up to shift the story, eh? You have no idea if she worked for a huge company with amazing medical coverage or the McDonalds down the street. You have no idea what kinds of health conditions she may have had, or how serious her injuries were. Given her age, one broken bone could have very easily caused a host of other conditions. Stop assuming these things to be true.[/QUOTE]
It's proper to assume there were no other conditions because, guess what? They weren't reported on. You're assuming conditions are worse than they are and that justifies the behavior, I'm saying the behavior is unacceptable based on the stated conditions.
I'm erring on the side of believing the actual reporting, you're erring on the side of being retarded.
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;33959041]...since when were we all massive pussies? Have you never seen gore before? It's not that big of a fucking deal.[/QUOTE]
I've seen some really brutal gore online, yeah it's not a big deal but I'm pretty sure if I saw those things in person, as they happened I'd be pretty unnerved for awhile. Pictures don't really do tragedy as much justice as actually being there does.
If I was struck by a dismembered body like that I'd be pretty, well, I'd be in a really bad place to say the least. That's pretty gruesome.
You seem like a person who can't sympathize with others purely because they don't see it the exact same way as you.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;33955333] If a train wheel kicks up a rock and the rock hits someone who is standing right there, is that the fault of the railroad?[/QUOTE]
Yes, because they weren't keeping proper safety measures in tact if some how rocks are hitting people.
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;33959041]...since when were we all massive pussies? Have you never seen gore before? It's not that big of a fucking deal.[/QUOTE]It's funny because you think seeing someone's dismembered corpse in person is the same thing as seeing it on the internet.
[QUOTE=ExplodingGuy;33959100]It's funny because you think seeing someone's dismembered corpse in person is the same things as seeing it on the internet.[/QUOTE]
What an appropriate username.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;33959035]In Japan they fine the families of people who commit suicide on the tracks for delay, cleanup and damages.[/QUOTE]
Which is expected because Japanese culture shames suicide and practically [i]all[/i] mental health problems, which tends to lead to higher suicide rates than the rest of the world
There's a severe problem with it over there and they're literally doing [i]everything[/i] wrong in dealing with it
The ruling seems kind of shitty, but it makes sense when you think about it. The man is the only negligent party, and is solely responsible for the incident. The woman was injured, through no fault of her own, as a result of the incident. Therefore, the man, and thus his estate, should be held responsible for her injuries.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;33959146]Which is expected because Japanese culture shames suicide and practically [i]all[/i] mental health problems, which tends to lead to higher suicide rates than the rest of the world
There's a severe problem with it over there and they're literally doing [i]everything[/i] wrong in dealing with it[/QUOTE]
You have it mixed up. Suicide isn't shamed. It's something that they tolerate because in some circumstances it's the responsible thing to do. Hence why suicide is so high in Japan, well, one of them at least. There are a ton of other reasons like their social culture, unemployment and so on.
The reason they fine people for train delays is a bit more than that. It more has to deal with the fact that Japan's public transportation is [i]flawless[/i] to the point that trains are [i]never[/i] late and when they are late the train company gives you a note to bring to work saying your train was late, otherwise they won't believe you. So they discourage people from using the transit system as a method for suicide by fining the families of those who commit suicide on them.
Hundreds and hundreds of people go to Aokigahara to hang themselves from trees, overdoes etc. and no one cares really because it doesn't disrupt anyone elses life. Once a year they send people to go pull bodies out of the forest but aside from that they just let it be. I think there are some signs and they have a guy or two who goes around like a park ranger to try and stop them but that's it.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;33959225]
Hundreds and hundreds of people go to Aokigahara to hang themselves from trees, overdoes etc. and no one cares really because it doesn't disrupt anyone elses life. Once a year they send people to go pull bodies out of the forest but aside from that they just let it be. I think there are some signs and they have a guy or two who goes around like a park ranger to try and stop them but that's it.[/QUOTE]
They don't even really 'stop' them exactly. They just go around and are like HEY RANDOM GUY IN THE FOREST DO YOU NEED HELP? OKAY COOL WELL ILL BE SEEING YA THEN.
Sometimes it works.
Not going to lie, But most city folk don't look both ways before they cross.
Ive seen quite alot of accidents, Not train related ofcourse just cars.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;33959225]You have it mixed up. Suicide isn't shamed. It's something that they tolerate because in some circumstances it's the responsible thing to do. Hence why suicide is so high in Japan, well, one of them at least. There are a ton of other reasons like their social culture, unemployment and so on.
The reason they fine people for train delays is a bit more than that. It more has to deal with the fact that Japan's public transportation is [i]flawless[/i] to the point that trains are [i]never[/i] late and when they are late the train company gives you a note to bring to work saying your train was late, otherwise they won't believe you. So they discourage people from using the transit system as a method for suicide by fining the families of those who commit suicide on them.
Hundreds and hundreds of people go to Aokigahara to hang themselves from trees, overdoes etc. and no one cares really because it doesn't disrupt anyone elses life. Once a year they send people to go pull bodies out of the forest but aside from that they just let it be. I think there are some signs and they have a guy or two who goes around like a park ranger to try and stop them but that's it.[/QUOTE]
Suicide being common doesn't mean that mental problems aren't shamed in Japanese culture
like I said, it's the exact opposite
I'm not even speaking to the policy of fining the families, but for the record that's one of the most unjust things I've heard in a first-world nation
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;33959041]...since when were we all massive pussies? Have you never seen gore before? It's not that big of a fucking deal.
I wouldn't project your daintiness onto others, mate.
It's proper to assume there were no other conditions because, guess what? They weren't reported on. You're assuming conditions are worse than they are and that justifies the behavior, I'm saying the behavior is unacceptable based on the stated conditions.
I'm erring on the side of believing the actual reporting, you're erring on the side of being retarded.[/QUOTE]
Excuse me? [i]I'm[/i] being retarded? I'm not the one telling a 58-year-old woman to "man up" after she was seriously injured by flying fucking pieces of human bone, muscle, limbs, flesh, and blood. Who the fuck are you to declare all of humanity "not pussy enough" to suffer psychological trauma from traumatic events? Are you capable of any level of empathy?
For the record, my post was to prove how fucking retarded Drsalvador's comments were. Though I still cannot believe you honestly expect people to "man up" after experiencing a traumatic event. Tell that to military veterans suffering from PTSD. Or anyone suffering from clinical depression or hell, any psychiatric disorder for that matter.
Hey wait a second.... you believe the actual reporting right? You don't assume conditions are worse than they are, right?
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/irony1111.png[/img]
You seem to agree with Drsalvador's profanity-laced post dismissing the woman as a "prissy stuck up bitch" out trying to steal the life insurence money from the victim's family ("hundreds of thousands of dollars" despite the fact that not a single mention of the award is mentioned in the article), yet literally the FIRST SENTENCE of the article reads: "Ruling in what it called a "tragically bizarre" case, an appeals court found that the estate of a man"
[b][h2]ESTATE OF A MAN[/B][/h2]
[b][h2]ESTATE OF A MAN != VICTIM'S FAMILY[/B][/h2]
[b][h2]LIFE INSURANCE IS NOT A PART OF A DECEASED PERSON'S ESTATE[/b][/h2] under most circumstances
Now you either don't understand the legal concept of an "estate" yet still tried to participate in the thread without knowing what the fuck you're talking about, you didn't read the article, or you did exactly what you just told me not to do: "assuming conditions are worse than they are." Woman suing the estate of a man who died? Nope, she's suing the deceased's innocent grief-struck family! What a cunt!
I usually don't resort to this, but people have been attacking me the entire thread and I've lost my patience so fuck it. Seriously? Calling me retarded for doing the exact same thing everyone in this thread did (in translating "estate" into "victim's innocent grieving family")? Do you NOT see how hypocritical and dishonest that is?
Oh right you're the one who also knows the woman's medical history well enough to declare a broken leg as "minor damage" that can be treated with some nice time off from work and a cup of fucking tea. Gee, I didn't see anything in this charming post mentioned in the article:
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;33955013]That's a wonderful concept, however, he's [I]fucking dead.[/I]
I'm sure she has medical insurance that would cover the extremely minor damage caused by a piece of meat slapping into you. And yes, that's "minor damage", a broken leg isn't that big of a deal, you sit out a while, you get worker's comp or work from home, and you're right as rain in a little while. That she got wounded is unfortunate, but it was an [I]accident.[/I]
I'm also sure that the life insurance payout for a person annihilated via train is pretty substantial, and that the asshat just wanted a chunk of it.[/QUOTE]
Pfft, a broken leg? "not a big deal" says Dr. Xenocidebot! Don't worry about it! You'll be better in no time!
Yeah, really sticking to the reported facts here. Totally erring on the reporting! Oh, and yet again blurring the line between "estate" and "family" in blindly assuming that the man had life insurance (not everyone does you know) and that life insurance payouts are somehow tied to his estate, facts that are not at all mentioned in the article. Just gotta paint this woman as a fucking she-devil by filling in blanks that aren't even there with your own empathy-lacking version of reality.
Eagerly awaiting your response. Or are you not going to respond at all like DrSalvador?
I really like that people are trying to demonize the 58 year old woman who's just had both her leg and wrist broken and hit by a person's dismembered body part
[QUOTE=Greenen72;33959972]I really like that people are trying to demonize the 58 year old woman who's just had both her leg and wrist broken and hit by a person's dismembered body part[/QUOTE]
Uhh yeah, because she's going after a dead man.
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