Scientist declares alien signal sent from extrasolar planet Gliese 581g - Polidicks

[QUOTE=cheesedelux;25477943]It might have been a load of shit but I've read in a number of places that one of Hitler's big rallies was the first thing ever to be broadcast with enough power to be sent into space. There was some weird as fuck film where the first contact was having their messages sent back to them and they're all OH SHIT when they see they're watching television footage of Hitler ranting at Nuremberg.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118884/"]Contact[/URL] , yes. That's vaguely what I was referencing... Imagine if we sent that shit out and a developing society clinged to it and copied what they saw. Oh lawd.

That would be cool if they looked like turians

I have faith god will guide me

[QUOTE=imasillypiggys;25477046]We are using educated guesses[/QUOTE] Hahahahaha [QUOTE=ShukaidoX;25477471]To be quite truthful, most of what I'm saying is based off of legitimate claims made my scientists (e.g.: neil degrasse tyson, carl sagan, michio kaku, to name a few...) Other things are based off of what I've seen in interviews with reputable people claiming they've received knowledge (like what I'm talking about, and a lot more) from benevolent races whom they've encountered in abduction-esque circumstances. To be precise I mentioned his name earlier in the thread if you're interested.[/QUOTE] Someone who claims they were abducted by aliens is the exact opposite of reputable. That's the same kind of blind belief that makes religion so moronic. I'm not saying that I don't think there is life out there, because I believe there is, but the fact that you are talking about aliens as though you have a degree in alienology is absolutely hilarious to me.

[QUOTE=imasillypiggys;25477046]We are using educated guesses[/QUOTE] Hahahahaha [QUOTE=ShukaidoX;25477471]To be quite truthful, most of what I'm saying is based off of legitimate claims made my scientists (e.g.: neil degrasse tyson, carl sagan, michio kaku, to name a few...) Other things are based off of what I've seen in interviews with reputable people claiming they've received knowledge (like what I'm talking about, and a lot more) from benevolent races whom they've encountered in abduction-esque circumstances. To be precise I mentioned his name earlier in the thread if you're interested.[/QUOTE] Someone who claims they were abducted by aliens is the exact opposite of reputable. That's the same kind of blind belief that makes religion so moronic. I'm not saying that I don't think there is life out there, because I believe there is, but the fact that you are talking about aliens as though you have a degree in alienology is absolutely hilarious to me. [editline]17th October 2010[/editline] Apparently facepunch wants my post to be seen.

We need to make sure if we can have sex with them before we meet physically, I know half you fuckers would pull that shit.

[QUOTE=Comcastic;25475702]We should try to avoid contact with extraterrestrial life until the majority of human beings are able to deal with the fact that we are not the only living things in the universe.[/QUOTE] Were able to deal with it... Now we have something else to kill/conquer.

[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;25476160] I'm sure the same could be said about higher-dimensional beings that are sure to exist given all the time certain species have had to evolve.[/QUOTE] What? That makes no sense.

Send the aliens pictures of kittens, no life form, human or not, could find such a thing hostile.

Everyone is assuming these aliens have to have DNA... There is no reason that they would need DNA, they could have evolved completely differently... Also, the chance that we and the aliens are anywhere near the same technology level is almost nil

[QUOTE=KmartSqrl;25479149] Someone who claims they were abducted by aliens is the exact opposite of reputable. That's the same kind of blind belief that makes religion so moronic. [/QUOTE] You're entitled to your opinion, but I'm sorry to say I don't share your viewpoint. If you want to confront the legitimacy of the person I'm referring to I'm not stopping you, but without really knowing what your talking about you come off as uninformed.

[QUOTE=dj0wns;25480251]Everyone is assuming these aliens have to have DNA... There is no reason that they would need DNA, they could have evolved completely differently... Also, the chance that we and the aliens are anywhere near the same technology level is almost nil[/QUOTE] Who says? They could be on the same level as us, very much below us, or very much ahead of us [editline]17th October 2010[/editline] And anywhere in between

[QUOTE=Biotoxsin;25479909]What? That makes no sense.[/QUOTE] If you think of how many billions of years the universe has had to allow species such as ourselves to evolve into higher and higher consciousness, they are said to eventually reach a singularity. This is after millions of years of course, but who knows what physical form if any a being such as that would take.

[QUOTE=Tetracycline;25480828]Who says? They could be on the same level as us, very much below us, or very much ahead of us [editline]17th October 2010[/editline] And anywhere in between[/QUOTE] Look at the numbers. Our planet has eixsted 4billion years. humans in their current form have existed for 200,000 years. In 10(or is it 12) thousand years, we have gone from fighting with sticks to navigating space(well, a small fraction of space at least). while I was exaggerating when is said it was almost impossible, it is still very unlikely.

Aren't they still debating whether the planet even exists? [editline]18th October 2010[/editline] [url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?1013364-Habitable-planet-may-not-exist[/url] Jup, they are

[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;25480806]You're entitled to your opinion, but I'm sorry to say I don't share your viewpoint. If you want to confront the legitimacy of the person I'm referring to I'm not stopping you, but without really knowing what your talking about you come off as uninformed.[/QUOTE] If you think Alex Collier is in any way reputable you're an idiot. There is absolutely zero evidence to support anything he's claimed. He's a fraud. It is exactly the same as someone claiming god came down from the clouds and whispered secret knowledge in their ear. If you don't agree with that statement I would absolutely [I]love[/I] for you to explain the difference. Here's a quote from your "reputable" source: [quote]I don't know that I know much more than I've already said, but I'll go through it again. According to Moraney, on March 23rd of 1994 a color and sound frequency apparently started emanating from the black holes. It is of such a high vibration that it is literally invisible to us. It is not, however, invisible to those in other dimensions or to those who are technologically advanced enough to be able to register this energy. Now, they have said all along that the universe that we physically see is only 21 billion years old. The space in which our universe is in, which is only one layer in many dimensions which they call "consciousness", is a 21 trillion year old holograph. This new frequency which is coming out of the 3rd density black holes spans the entire range of the holograph of the universe, and its is literally creating a new holographic idea. They are calling this new holograph "the 12th", and they have said to me that it is literally bringing all the dimensions together. Third density is beginning to implode on itself. [/quote] Seriously? You're calling this reputable? I would laugh, but it actually worries me that you can take this seriously? For anyone else who's curious, everything else this Alex Collier guy says is loaded with the same amount of shit. I mean, come the fuck on: [quote]Yes, we will first start to see what we think are ghosts or spirit guides. Some of us on the planet (and there are already five who can do this) will be moving in and out between fourth and fifth density almost at will. They will be able to teleport to different places on the planet. We're talking about hundreds of thousands of people. If they're right, this will mean we'll be going through some remarkable shifts. If they're right. [/quote] (AC = Alex Collier, this is from an interview with him) [quote]Val: And our system here is binary, but on a different frequency where Jupiter is a sun on the fifth density? AC: Yes. [/quote] [quote]The dolphins that we have now on Earth are apparently a cross between a mammal from the Sirian system and one from the Signus Alpha system. [/quote] Quotes are from here: [url]http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/andromeda/esp_andromedacom_11.htm[/url] and there's loads more of this nonsense on there too. People on earth can teleport, Jupiter is a sun, and dolphins are from outer space! Are you seriously telling me this guy is a reputable source? Like, seriously? All this Collier guy has done is prove how hopelessly gullible some people are. This is just as bad as fundamentalist Christians who take the bible literally and believe the earth is 6000 years old; blind belief in something you wish was true and complete dismissal of any shred of logic or reason.

This whole thread has been some grand entertainment. I think my favorite post was "We're making educated guesses"

This moronic topic just continues to show how Shukaido is one of the most gullible people on this board. You so desperately want your delusions to be true that you just lap up any possible piece of evidence, no matter how questionable, debunked, or outright false it is.

When i become a huge dictator and finally unite the human race i'm going to nuke it from orbit for the lols and then kill everyone

Imagine, we could be able to communicate with them! (ok, 20 year lags, but whatever)

[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;25480841]If you think of how many billions of years the universe has had to allow species such as ourselves to evolve into higher and higher consciousness, they are said to eventually reach a singularity. This is after millions of years of course, but who knows what physical form if any a being such as that would take.[/QUOTE] Thats one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Life will not change the particles it's composed of. 'Higher dimensional'? What the fuck is that supposed to mean? You've got no idea what you're talking about. I don't even know if I could explain it in simple terms for you. I'll try I guess. Life will always develop in the way that is easiest for it to conserve energy. It'll never change to use non-elementary particles, let alone any exotic baryon. Always the atoms you (should be) are familiar with. Don't reply to this, I can't bear to read another post as moronic as the last. Read up on some reputable sites/sources.

In b4 pseudoscience bs. [QUOTE=ShukaidoX;25480841] allow species such as ourselves to evolve into higher and higher consciousness, they are said to eventually reach a singularity..[/QUOTE] Oh damn son. Too late.

[QUOTE=Biotoxsin;25486455]Thats one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Life will not change the particles it's composed of. 'Higher dimensional'? What the fuck is that supposed to mean? You've got no idea what you're talking about. I don't even know if I could explain it in simple terms for you. I'll try I guess. Life will always develop in the way that is easiest for it to conserve energy. It'll never change to use non-elementary particles, let alone any exotic baryon. Always the atoms you (should be) are familiar with. Don't reply to this, I can't bear to read another post as moronic as the last. Read up on some reputable sites/sources.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry you're having difficulty grasping the concept of higher consciousness. Allow me to put it bluntly. We live in a universe composed of multiple levels of density, or dimensions. Given enough time for a species to evolve in the third dimension, who knows what their minds develop into being able to comprehend. While this is speculation (never said any of this was anything but), even the likes of futurama have pulled gags involving singularity like consciousness. This isn't a difficult concept to grasp.

There is a massive difference between logical, reasonable, speculation and wild speculation with absolutely zero factual foundation. Everything you are posting falls in the latter category. Your willingness to accept the load of shit spewed from Collier's mouth is enough to prove that.

[QUOTE=KmartSqrl;25488223]There is a massive difference between logical, reasonable, speculation and wild speculation with absolutely zero factual foundation. Everything you are posting falls in the latter category. Your willingness to accept the load of shit spewed from Collier's mouth is enough to prove that.[/QUOTE] Sorry you feel that way but your opinion is nothing but. Alex Collier is only a small fraction of where the root of my ideas in science fiction/possible non-fiction belies. You still haven't said anything about neil degrasse tyson, carl sagan, and michio kaku. All of which have agreed on the basis of MANY of my claims. If you think you know more than them you've got your head further up your ass then you care to realize.

[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;25475161]Personally, I don't think its far fetched to think that given all the time the universe has had to evolve intelligent species, that maybe some have technology in place to use wormholes, create dyson sphere-esque technology, and possibly even have technology in place similar to the obelisks in 2001. All intelligences share the common interest in the survival of a species, no? My guess is they must have an interest in a species like us with the capacity to spread to the stars, but ultimately may destroy themselves. How could they not?[/QUOTE] Dyson spheres are beyond the scope of almost any possible species that that hasn't hit the technological singularity. Even then, the chances are pretty good that they won't have the materials. And all organisms intelligent or not fight to survive, whatever may exist on that planet (which likely doesn't all we have is a pulse of light from that region that could have been from a pulsar from that planets direction but light years behind it) might see our planet as habitable and see a possible colony. If they are as intelligent as us then we assume they are like the worst of us and prepare for it.

[QUOTE=bravehat;25488510]Dyson spheres are beyond the scope of almost any possible species that that hasn't hit the technological singularity. Even then, the chances are pretty good that they won't have the materials. And all organisms intelligent or not fight to survive, whatever may exist on that planet (which likely doesn't all we have is a pulse of light from that region that could have been from a pulsar from that planets direction but light years behind it) might see our planet as habitable and see a possible colony. If they are as intelligent as us then we assume they are like the worst of us and prepare for it.[/QUOTE] It is certainly beyond the scope of our realm of imagination, but who knows what millions of years have done for the technology of a species. If they had the fight or flight drive as we do, they would certainly travel the stars, harvest necessary resources for whatever they needed, and possibly even terraform otherwise inhospitable planets into lush worlds for their civilization to thrive on. If they could (eventually) develop dyson spheres, they would undoubtedly be able to respect fledgling intelligences and leave them to their home planet to evolve in peace as they scoured the stars for energy/matter to harvest elsewhere.

[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;25487973]I'm sorry you're having difficulty grasping the concept of higher consciousness. Allow me to put it bluntly. We live in a universe composed of multiple levels of density, or dimensions. Given enough time for a species to evolve in the third dimension, who knows what their minds develop into being able to comprehend. While this is speculation (never said any of this was anything but), even the likes of futurama have pulled gags involving singularity like consciousness. This isn't a difficult concept to grasp.[/QUOTE] Yeah, there's no such thing as a higher dimension in the sense you mean. There just isn't, and at best there are 10 spatial dimensions and one temporal in M theory, and we only exist in 3 of them and we will never notice those other 7 spatial dimensions because they don't permeate all of existence they only anchor our universe onto the branes. That is if you believe M theory, but if you do you probably believe on homoeopathy in which case I would like to draw your attention to this. [img]http://wapedia.mobi/thumb/1b79495/en/fixed/470/352/Winchester_Black_Talon_45_Auto.jpg?format=jpg[/img] This is a winchester black talon hollow point, it turns water melons to paste, rind and mush. Use one on your head.

To a species of that level of intelligence, we would be able to offer them little to absolutely nothing to interest them. They have all the resources they will ever need. My guess is if there was something about our species that interested them, it would be our capacity to create art, music, and things of that nature. They probably look at our space telescopes and think "awww, is that quaint?"

Of course i am focusing on Collier. You cited a man who said dolphins are from space as a reputable source. Do you not understand how ridiculous that is? There is no reason to discuss people like Sagan and michio kaku (unless you're doing something like taking sagan's scifi novels to be scientific texts, which would be hilarious in it's own right) because they don't pretend that they actually know anything about aliens. PS: I'm still waiting for you to address my last post on the previous page of this thread.