[QUOTE=sami-pso;35148337]They are lobbying for more support from the US to deal with it. The solution they offered is just sending troops to kill him i guess, but any way of dealing with it is fine as long as it's accepted by the international community. Would be good if they had success and decided to go after other warlords as well, and even better if they didn't just do it for the oil, but even that's better than what's going on now i think.[/quote]
There are already military advisor's in Uganda, but they're not doing anything because Kony is in the Congo.
Besides, if you start invading the Congo looking for him, you're going to create an international incident and destabilise that region.
[quote]There's always supporters and activists for every cause..
I am not going to flyer every time they want to remove a warlord somewhere.[/QUOTE]
So you're lazy.
There was an invisible children group in our highschool when I went, when this started it made it hard to take it seriously and i'm glad I didn't.
There was a group of invisible children in your highschool? How!?
[QUOTE=Clavus;35148101]People in this day and age have to process a lot of information every day. It's hard to move people to educate themselves first before passing their personal judgement on these kind of issues.[/QUOTE]It's groupthink, participants aren't going to bother to think when that'll threaten the cohesiveness of the group in achieving the perceived goal. It has always been a dangerous thing, and Kony2012 just proves that even with myriads of information at your fingertips no one will bother to look up possibly contrary information.
I never really understood any of this Kony stuff.
First time I saw the thread here listed as "last posted in.." I always thought "Kony? What the hell is that? Some kind of movement or people who say the world is ending or something of the sort?"
Then I saw what it really was and thought "What? This is the source of all this hysteria? Some common african warlord? Wow..."
Everyone was going *D: b'awwwwww* literally and I just looked at it and saw an african warlord with a name, different of other warlords because this one actually has a name throughout the world.
Then people tell you to help doing... What exactly?
How are you going to help to do something against an african warlord? Sending a few dollars that get "lost" half way through? Go to Africa and die of fucking anything? Oh please... Stop trying to be an activist and go be something else that you can actually do.
In short: this is yet another "flu" for everyone to go batshit insane about it, trying to do something about it. And don't change your life and "be all about kony stuff" because thats just being impulssively random for nothing.
[QUOTE=dass;35148736]I never really understood any of this Kony stuff.
First time I saw the thread here listed as "last posted in.." I always thought "Kony? What the hell is that? Some kind of movement or people who say the world is ending or something of the sort?"
Then I saw what it really was and thought "What? This is the source of all this hysteria? Some common african warlord? Wow..."
Everyone was going *D: b'awwwwww* literally and I just looked at it and saw an african warlord with a name, different of other warlords because this one actually has a name throughout the world.
Then people tell you to help doing... What exactly?
How are you going to help to do something against an african warlord? Sending a few dollars that get "lost" half way through? Go to Africa and die of fucking anything? Oh please... Stop trying to be an activist and go be something else that you can actually do.
In short: this is yet another "flu" for everyone to go batshit insane about it, trying to do something about it. And don't change your life and "be all about kony stuff" because thats just being impulssively random for nothing.[/QUOTE]
Not to mention that it's all little more than a scam and draped in misinformation, all of which could have been uncovered with just a little bit of research. In short - a lot of people are really fucking stupid and will buy into anything as long as it's popular.
[QUOTE=OP]..to point out what is wrong with this group's approach: the warmongering, the narcissism, the commercialisation, the reductive and one-sided story they tell, [b]their portrayal of Africans as helpless children in need of rescue by white Americans[/b].[/QUOTE]
This, all the way.
Of course it was a failure and a scam. No one makes an emotional 30 min movie for a good cause.
I find it hilarious that just as sure as the sun will shine tomorrow, everyone's already forgotten about it on Facebook.
I already predicted it, and it happened.
[QUOTE=BudakCiner;35148864]This, all the way.[/QUOTE]Oh well, send in the black ones.
I remember when Fp first made the kony thread.
Everyone was like "OMG WE HAVE TO HELP LOL!"
now everyone turns around and is saying "its such bullshit, whoever believed it is retarded."
Honestly, you should be cautious on any type of charity that forces children in front of the screen to make a point.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;35150506]I remember when Fp first made the kony thread.
Everyone was like "OMG WE HAVE TO HELP LOL!"
now everyone turns around and is saying "its such bullshit, whoever believed it is retarded."[/QUOTE]
I was like that from the very beginning. It was an obvious scam that played on emotion
they put a new kony poster up at school after i ripped the first one off..
did it again :V
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;35148928]Of course it was a failure and a scam. No one makes an emotional 30 min movie for a good cause.[/QUOTE]
I disagree kinda, people can, and have, but this one in particular is just a sham.
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[QUOTE=thelurker1234;35150506]I remember when Fp first made the kony thread.
Everyone was like "OMG WE HAVE TO HELP LOL!"
now everyone turns around and is saying "its such bullshit, whoever believed it is retarded."[/QUOTE]
First time I heard about IC, I was highly confused, because my impression of Kony was WAY different because I first heard about him back in fucking 2001. I later learned, it was different because IC painted a simplified and incorrect picture of the LRA.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;35150506]I remember when Fp first made the kony thread.
Everyone was like "OMG WE HAVE TO HELP LOL!"
now everyone turns around and is saying "its such bullshit, whoever believed it is retarded."[/QUOTE]
I never even watched the video, let alone saw the thread
[editline]15th March 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;35150506]I remember when Fp first made the kony thread.
Everyone was like "OMG WE HAVE TO HELP LOL!"
now everyone turns around and is saying "its such bullshit, whoever believed it is retarded."[/QUOTE]
I never even watched the video, let alone saw the thread
thought this kony shit was bull from the start
"oh who's this kony guy? some african warlord?"
cool story bro, don't see how anything I can do will change a fucking thing, now gtfo
^ my first thought.
[QUOTE=arthuro12;35150955]they put a new kony poster up at school after i ripped the first one off..
did it again :V[/QUOTE]Then they buy more posters and fund the scam more.
The movie "Triage: Dr. James Orbinski's Humanitarian Dilemma" on netflix shows some of the things that happened in the genocides in Rwanda and Somalia.
When ever I tried to talk about that people just changed the subject, now those same people are bitching at me for not posting Kony on facebook.
i haven't watched the video and im not gonna because i saw through all this from the very start
ha ha ~fuck the police~~
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;35151762]Then they buy more posters and fund the scam more.[/QUOTE]
Fuck.
I could make a .. edited one and hang that one up instead?
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;35150858]I was like that from the very beginning. It was an obvious scam that played on emotion[/QUOTE]
I didn't even say anything against it because people would get on a plane with a bucket of rocks and a bunch of boxes to hurl them directly at me for not going "B'AWWW THE LITTLE CHILDREN I JUST HEARD ABOUT ARE BEING ENSLAVED BY SOME WARLORD THAT I JUST HEARD ABOUT BUT SEEMS TO BE FAMOUS! I MUST HELP DONATING ALL MY RICHES!"
Pfff... Me helping... I'm the lost son of some nigerian prince!
[editline]15th March 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=The golden;35150898]No, if you go back and read the early pages, it's pretty painful to read. People bought into it pretty much instantly. It took about 7 to 8 pages before people started to question things properly.
It's really sad that people can look at the Kony2012 website and say "Yup, that looks legit!". Everything about Kony2012 and Invisible Children just screams "scam". Lo-and-behold, it is in-fact a scam.[/QUOTE]
Drug addicts mooching at the red lights should wear Kony2012 T-shirts. 100% profit increase!
[editline]15th March 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=imptastick;35151859]The movie "Triage: Dr. James Orbinski's Humanitarian Dilemma" on netflix shows some of the things that happened in the genocides in Rwanda and Somalia.
When ever I tried to talk about that people just changed the subject, now those same people are bitching at me for not posting Kony on facebook.[/QUOTE]
My facebook doesn't even get that kony stuff. Seems to be more of a US thing.
Good thing it doesnt. The "stupid" on facebook already hits me in the head almost to the point of saying "oh my god, go fuck your ignorance and yourself", this would be yet another friend removal reason.
There are Invisible Children/Kony 2012 posters all over my school and it's SO FUCKING STUPID.
I was already getting sick of hearing about Invisible Children, now that I know it's bullshit it makes me even more angry. I hate how everyone acts like they're some kind of saint just because they support this useless organization.
It scares me that some of my friends who are really quite intelligent fell for it. I heard about it late enough to see the counter-Kony 2012 articles and managed to educate them. Only after weathering a storm of hate.
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[QUOTE=NeonpieDFTBA;35153830]It scares me that some of my friends who are really quite intelligent fell for it. I heard about it late enough to see the counter-Kony 2012 articles and managed to educate them. Only after weathering a storm of hate.[/QUOTE]
Yes its pretty amazing how once people latch onto an idea they set up a thick shell around it and won't allow anything to change their mind, often resorting to blindly defending their ideas by just making logical fallacies. i.e: "YOU JUST DON'T WANT TO SUPPORT KONY 2012 BECAUSE YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT AFRICAN KIDS!!" (ironically coming from people who didn't even care until some hipsters made a film that told them it was cool to do so)
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the idea of the ICC coming to get someone, lol
but seriously I feel bad for Uganda in general.
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