IDF Releases Photos of 'Weapons'(A.K.A. Common Items) From Raided Freedom Flotilla Ship
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[QUOTE=Deathbane;22305313]ITs legallity is DISPUTED. Its not shown to be illegal, as any search on google will show.[/QUOTE]
Disputed because Israel probably had enough money to bribe the entire fucking UN.
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[QUOTE=Glorbo;22305329]EVIDENCE PLEASE.
If they find bulletholes on the lower deck of the ship after investigation, im fully with ya.[/QUOTE]
Read the other threads.
[QUOTE=Sickle;22305344]Disputed because Israel probably had enough money to bribe the entire fucking UN.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, the U.N. that is soooooo pro Israel.
[quote=sickle;22305344]disputed because israel probably had enough money to bribe the entire fucking un.
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read the other threads.[/quote]
CONSPIRACY
of course
its always the easy way out
[QUOTE=bugfix;22305355]Yeah, the U.N. that is soooooo pro Israel.[/QUOTE]
Yeah the U.N is an evilz antisemitic conspiracy organization.
[QUOTE=Glorbo;22305367]CONSPIRACY
of course[/QUOTE]
What?
Are you fucking kidding me?
[QUOTE=starpluck;22305379]Yeah the U.N is an evilz antisemitic conspiracy organization.[/QUOTE]
It has proven that with the Goldstone report.
[QUOTE=Sickle;22305381]What?
Are you fucking kidding me?[/QUOTE]
This seems to be your usual reply
Please, TRY TO ACTUALY MAKE A POINT
[QUOTE=Glorbo;22305367]CONSPIRACY
of course
its always the easy way out[/QUOTE]
Obviously! not....
Sounds like more bullshit from someone trying to justify an aggressive action. They should have requested a search before going past the blockade, im sure israel would have allowed that.
[QUOTE=bugfix;22305388]It has proven that with the Goldstone report.[/QUOTE]
lol, you are pretty stupid.
Israel has constantly pulled out the antisemitic card and called Goldstone an antisemitic many MANY times, funny part is, is that Goldstone is a Jew himself!
[QUOTE=starpluck;22305412]is that Goldstone is a Jew himself![/QUOTE]
You don't say.
[QUOTE=starpluck;22305412]lol, you are pretty stupid.
Israel has constantly pulled out the antisemitic card and called Goldstone an antisemitic many MANY times, funny part is, is that Goldstone is a Jew himself![/QUOTE]
No they did not.
Not in any actual statements, they havnt.
Give me one-prime minister would be the best.
[QUOTE=starpluck;22305412]lol, you are pretty stupid.
Israel has constantly pulled out the antisemitic card and called Goldstone an antisemitic many MANY times, funny part is, is that Goldstone is a Jew himself![/QUOTE]
Please reply with something that amounts to anything other than a more complicated ' no u'.
Starpluck, man. Let's go.
My final comment is this; The three opposing parties (Of which two do not contribute, and are either completely retarded, or didn't even read the first page. And the other one has enough boxes to build the great wall of china tenfold), are completely for Israel and should be left to their doings. Their arguments are illogical and any attempt to reason with them is futile. In the future, ignore the idiots.
My final comment is this; The three opposing parties (Of which two do not contribute, and are either completely retarded, or didn't even read the first page. And the other one has enough boxes to build the great wall of china tenfold), are completely against Israel and should be left to their doings. Their arguments are illogical and any attempt to reason with them is futile. In the future, ignore the idiots.
[QUOTE=Sickle;22305473]Starpluck, man. Let's go.
My final comment is this; The three opposing parties (Of which two do not contribute, and are either completely retarded, or didn't even read the first page. And the other one has enough boxes to build the great wall of china tenfold), are completely for Israel and should be left to their doings. Their arguments are illogical and any attempt to reason with them is futile. In the future, ignore the idiots.[/QUOTE]
As in: "I have not evidence, no backup, no arguments-so im getting out of here. SEE YA!"
[QUOTE=Glorbo;22305497]As in: "I have not evidence, no backup, no arguments-so im getting out of here. SEE YA!"[/QUOTE]
He's planning the next convoy run, viva palestine! :v:
[QUOTE=Sickle;22305473]Starpluck, man. Let's go.
My final comment is this; The three opposing parties (Of which two do not contribute, and are either completely retarded, or didn't even read the first page. And the other one has enough boxes to build the great wall of china tenfold), are completely for Israel and should be left to their doings. Their arguments are illogical and any attempt to reason with them is futile. In the future, ignore the idiots.[/QUOTE]
I agree, most of their arguments are pretty insane; I feel like I'm trying to reason with a wall.
[QUOTE=starpluck;22305514]I agree, most of their arguments are pretty insane; I feel like I'm trying to reason with a wall.[/QUOTE]
How are they insane?
Please enlighten me.
[QUOTE=Glorbo;22303930]1.
2.Ever get hit by a firework? I have. Wasn't exactly joyfull.
[/QUOTE]
hahah
[QUOTE=David29;22302722]Again playing devil's advocate in this thread:
- These are aid ships, correct? It strikes me as slightly strange as to why rather insignificant things like flares and saws are taking priority[/QUOTE]
rebuilding
food, harvesting etc
i have questions if someone would care to answer
-i'm guessing the items on the boat was from charity?
-why did the soldiers not take any kind of crowd control action? they dropped one by one onto a ship that they _knew_ had activists on it. i thought isreali commandos was a professionals, the videos posted in this thread shows the total opposite.
-why did they not shoot the protesters in the legs or do some other kind of 'threat' against the mob? that's usually how controlling a riot works.
[QUOTE=starpluck;22305514]I agree, most of their arguments are pretty insane; I feel like I'm trying to reason with a wall.[/QUOTE]
Thats because you are. Good luck to you with whatever you are doing.
Meanwhile ill be waiting to see how many more hellfire missiles/bulldozers itll take to remove hamas.
Before I live, let me fulfill a request.
[QUOTE=Glorbo;22305434]No they did not.
Not in any actual statements, they havnt.
Give me one-prime minister would be the best.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.haaretz.com/news/finance-minister-un-backing-of-goldstone-report-is-anti-semitic-1.5909[/url]
[url]http://www.ynet.co.il/english/articles/0,7340,L-3839044,00.html[/url]
Or if you want more, simply Google: Golstone anti semite
[QUOTE=Cuel;22305541]hahah
rebuilding
food, harvesting etc
i have questions if someone would care to answer
-i'm guessing the items on the boat was from charity?
-why did the soldiers not take any kind of crowd control action? they dropped one by one onto a ship that they _knew_ had activists on it. i thought isreali commandos was a professionals, the videos posted in this thread shows the total opposite.
-why did they not shoot the protesters in the legs or do some other kind of 'threat' against the mob? that's usually how controlling a riot works.[/QUOTE]
The boat may have had aid on, but it could also be used to hide and smuggle in supplies not allowed by the blockade, that are usable by hamas to attack israeli civilians. Therefore, they have to be checked.
The raid was botched - i dont think they were prepared for how immediately violent the reaction was, and this gross under estimation led to the conflict.
Firing at the legs is not non lethal. Anything with live ammunition can turn lethal.
[QUOTE=starpluck;22305570]Before I live, let me fulfill a request.
[url]http://www.haaretz.com/news/finance-minister-un-backing-of-goldstone-report-is-anti-semitic-1.5909[/url]
[url]http://www.ynet.co.il/english/articles/0,7340,L-3839044,00.html[/url]
Or if you want more, simply Google: Golstone anti semite[/QUOTE]
ha.
Well that was stupid.
[QUOTE=Deathbane;22305592]The boat may have had aid on, but it could also be used to hide and smuggle in supplies not allowed by the blockade, that are usable by hamas to attack israeli civilians. Therefore, they have to be checked.
The raid was botched - i dont think they were prepared for how immediately violent the reaction was, and this gross under estimation led to the conflict.
Firing at the legs is not non lethal. Anything with live ammunition can turn lethal.[/QUOTE]
i'm not sure if you're actually answering the questions
i didn't ask why they checked the boat
they knew the boat was heading for gaza, they can immediately assume and know that the boat will have activists on it.
[quote]Firing at the legs is not non lethal. Anything with live ammunition can turn lethal.[/QUOTE]
and your point is? are you saying that they shot 19(?) people in the leg and they all died?
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Portable anti-personel hand canon.
[QUOTE=Cuel;22305689]i'm not sure if you're actually answering the questions
i didn't ask why they checked the boat
they knew the boat was heading for gaza, they can immediately assume and know that the boat will have activists on it.
and your point is? are saying that they shot 19(?) people in the leg and they all died?[/QUOTE]
When you are outnumbered and beaten to death, this shit happens, yeah.
[QUOTE=Glorbo;22305706]When you are outnumbered and beaten to death, this shit happens, yeah.[/QUOTE]
which leads back to the first question about crowd control
[QUOTE=Cuel;22305720]which leads back to the first question about crowd control[/QUOTE]
Well then, mister swat guy, what do you think they should have done in that situation?
I think they should have just shot their propellor off and drag their ass to israel.
[QUOTE=Cuel;22305720]which leads back to the first question about crowd control[/QUOTE]
Bullets richochet, and can go through numerous people, and thin walls. You cant guarantee where they all land, when your surrounded by a crowd. Get some realism into your head - this isnt counterstrike.
Some of the activists have links with hamas - just because theyre activists doesnt mean they arnt carrying contraband, so it had to be checked. Assumptions lead to death, like the israelis raiding the boat, not expecting to get ganked 30 on 1 immediately.
Like i said, they should have waited, and then sunk the boat as soon as it had passed the boundary proper. Would have been perfectly legal and totally hilarious.
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