• IDF Releases Photos of 'Weapons'(A.K.A. Common Items) From Raided Freedom Flotilla Ship
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That's not and you fucking know it.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22366762]That's not and you fucking know it.[/QUOTE] You are so ignorant it is painful to read what you write.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22366762]That's not and you fucking know it.[/QUOTE] So why don't they at least have molotovs or bottle rockets? Or as I mentioned before, A scuba tank and a couple of pvc pipes, some empty drinks cans or bottles filled with cement and you could maybe bring that helicopter down or kill a few soldiers. If you think that was them prepared you need to leave.
You guys are terrorists sympathizers. I know that most people on board the ships only wanted to deliver aid to Gaza, but the lunatics who attacked the IDF are terrorist supporters and you must be fucking blind to not see that.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22366690][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZlSSaPT_OU[/media] Didn't prepare to fight huh?[/QUOTE] No sound in video. Can't hear if IDF were shooting. Good job. :)
[QUOTE=bravehat;22366830]So why don't they at least have molotovs or bottle rockets? Or as I mentioned before, A scuba tank and a couple of pvc pipes, some empty drinks cans or bottles filled with cement and you could maybe bring that helicopter down or kill a few soldiers. If you think that was them prepared you need to leave.[/QUOTE] Probably because they couldn't sneak those stuff in. They had like 20 slingshots in there, how could you believe they didn't prepare for a fight??
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22366849][b]You guys are terrorists sympathizers.[/b] I know that most people on board the ships only wanted to deliver aid to Gaza, but the lunatics who attacked the IDF are terrorist supporters and you must be fucking blind to not see that.[/QUOTE] I stopped reading there and I refuse to read any of your future posts.
[QUOTE=Re-y-tard;22366882]No sound in video. Can't hear if IDF were shooting. Good job. :)[/QUOTE] Well the video is before the IDF even got in range
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22366849]You guys are terrorists sympathizers. I know that most people on board the ships only wanted to deliver aid to Gaza, but the lunatics who attacked the IDF are terrorist supporters and you must be fucking blind to not see that.[/QUOTE] Oh we do not agree with you, that makes us terrorisers!! You should leave this discussion since you do not contribute to the subject with anything but bullshit. [QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22366932]Well the video is before the IDF even got in range[/QUOTE] So? where's the sound?
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22366932]Well the video is before the IDF even got in range[/QUOTE] Says who? They've must've been in range if the activists could spot them... You can't honestly tell me the activists were out there all night just waiting.
[QUOTE=Hoffa1337;22366948] So? where's the sound?[/QUOTE] As you can probably see it's a security camera from the boat, security cameras usually don't record sound. [editline]03:33PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Re-y-tard;22366952]Says who? They've must've been in range if the activists could spot them... You can't honestly tell me the activists were out there all night just waiting.[/QUOTE] They only spotted them by the end of the video, and by then the IDF was still not in range to shot at them probably. Edit: Well maybe they were in range, since they are watering down with hoses. But by that time it doesn't matter, even if there was sounds and there were shots in the background, they could have been as far as we know warning shots.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22366965]As you can probably see it's a security camera from the boat, security cameras usually don't record sound. [editline]03:33PM[/editline] They only spotted them by the end of the video, and by then the IDF was still not in range to shot at them probably.[/QUOTE] Standard issue military rifles are capable of engaging an enemy at over 500 yards.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22366690][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZlSSaPT_OU[/media] Didn't prepare to fight huh?[/QUOTE] This is utter nonsense. First you say their goal is to get bad PR for Israel and lift the blockade, now you're saying they smuggled in slingshots to kill Israeli commandos in plain sight of cameras they knew were on board the ship? Those two actions are completely contradictory. If your goal is kill Israeli commandos you'd sneak in hand guns, not slingshots. If your goal is simply to make Israel look bad you wouldn't bring sling shots in either. If this was a premeditated action, you know what the first thing they'd do is? Turn off the ships cameras. They would do exactly what Israel is doing now, make sure the only footage anybody ever sees is footage that supports your goals.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22366965]As you can probably see it's a security camera from the boat, security cameras usually don't record sound. [editline]03:33PM[/editline] They only spotted them by the end of the video, and by then the IDF was still not in range to shot at them probably.[/QUOTE] So they were standing there all night preparing for IDFs surprise attack?
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22367013]This is utter nonsense. First you say their goal is to get bad PR for Israel and lift the blockade, now you're saying they smuggled in slingshots to kill Israeli commandos in plain sight of cameras they knew were on board the ship? Those two actions are completely contradictory. If your goal is kill Israeli commandos you'd sneak in hand guns, not slingshots. If your goal is simply to make Israel look bad you wouldn't bring sling shots in either. If this was a premeditated action, you know what the first thing they'd do is? Turn off the ships cameras. They would do exactly what Israel is doing now, make sure the only footage anybody ever sees is footage that supports your goals.[/QUOTE] I don't remember saying their goal was to get bad PR for Israel, maybe that was someone else. Also, perhaps they were unaware of the ship's cameras, they're only passengers, not the people in charge of the ship. [editline]03:38PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Hoffa1337;22367019]So they were standing there all night preparing for IDFs surprise attack?[/QUOTE] No, it seems to be several minutes before the IDF got in range. Edit: If you look at the time at the top, you can see that the video is cut into two parts, one in 9 PM and another at 4AM, so yes they probably stood there all night.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22367040]I don't remember saying their goal was to get bad PR for Israel, maybe that was someone else. Also, perhaps they were unaware of the ship's cameras, they're only passengers, not the people in charge of the ship. [editline]03:38PM[/editline] No, it seems to be several minutes before the IDF got in range.[/QUOTE] Have you been taking blows to your neocortex?
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22367040]I don't remember saying their goal was to get bad PR for Israel, maybe that was someone else. Also, perhaps they were unaware of the ship's cameras, they're only passengers, not the people in charge of the ship. [editline]03:38PM[/editline] No, it seems to be several minutes before the IDF got in range.[/QUOTE] No, that was you. You're the one who said it was their goal to get bad PR for Israel and open up the Gaza strip so weapons could be smuggled for the terrorists, that's exactly what you said. Most ship security cameras aren't designed to blend into the background of the ship. Most of them just sort of look like, I don't know, security cameras. And even then, the fact that they could sneak in slingshots calls to question why they couldn't sneak in something of similar size and more lethality.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22367130]No, that was you. You're the one who said it was their goal to get bad PR for Israel and open up the Gaza strip so weapons could be smuggled for the terrorists, that's exactly what you said. Most ship security cameras aren't designed to blend into the background of the ship. Most of them just sort of look like, I don't know, security cameras. And even then, the fact that they could sneak in slingshots calls to question why they couldn't sneak in something of similar size and more lethality.[/QUOTE] Like a gun, professor? Apprently a piano tuner from California got beaten up by the IDF... searching for english source, please hold.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22367040]Edit: If you look at the time at the top, you can see that the video is cut into two parts, one in 9 PM and another at 4AM, so yes they probably stood there all night.[/QUOTE] I see maybe one person who is in both shots. I see no reason why two groups of people in a ship of 600 can't be in one spot within a period of seven hours.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22367130]No, that was you. You're the one who said it was their goal to get bad PR for Israel and open up the Gaza strip so weapons could be smuggled for the terrorists, that's exactly what you said.[/QUOTE] I said that their goal wasn't only bringing those supplies, but weakening the blockade. Still, it is true that some of them wanted to also hurt Israel's PR, they said they didn't care if they died, that it's a win-win situation for them.
[QUOTE=Re-y-tard;22367146]Like a gun, professor?[/QUOTE] That's exactly what I said before, but if you want to be smarmy about it, yes.
[QUOTE=bravehat;22367006]Standard issue military rifles are capable of engaging an enemy at over 500 yards.[/QUOTE] uhm i'm just going to drop in and say that they were on a zodiac type boat (that was moving) and it was dark. however, i'm not saying that they were not within range.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22367167]I see maybe one person who is in both shots. I see no reason why two groups of people in a ship of 600 can't be in one spot within a period of seven hours.[/QUOTE] Perhaps. I'll change my wording to "there were people on guard all night".
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22367173]I said that their goal wasn't only bringing those supplies, but weakening the blockade. Still, it is true that some of them wanted to also hurt Israel's PR, they said they didn't care if they died, that it's a win-win situation for them.[/QUOTE] Broski, there's a big fucking difference between wanting a blockade taken down and wanting to put weapons into the hands of extremists. Of course they want to weaken the fucking blockade, that's why they're running it. That doesn't mean they want AKs smuggled in so Hamas can shoot Israeli babies. Some people just care about the fact that over a million civilians are starving in a ghetto.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22367203]Broski, there's a big fucking difference between wanting a blockade taken down and wanting to put weapons into the hands of extremists. Of course they want to weaken the fucking blockade, that's why they're running it. That doesn't mean they want AKs smuggled in so Hamas can shoot Israeli babies. Some people just care about the fact that over a million civilians are starving in a ghetto.[/QUOTE] I know most of them only want to bring supplies and to help the Gazan population, but the fact that some of them are in it just to hurt Israel is undeniable.
[QUOTE=Cuel;22367186]uhm i'm just going to drop in and say that they were on a zodiac type boat (that was moving) and it was dark. however, i'm not saying that they were not within range.[/QUOTE] True but thats nothing to stop them firing a few shots in the direction of the boat. I'm definitely not saying that they were capable of hitting the activists, that would frankly be a godly shot to pull off.
Just give up BurnEmDown, you're embarrassing yourself.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22367189]Perhaps. I'll change my wording to "there were people on guard all night".[/QUOTE] Uh, no, you can't make that claim at all. You only see two periods of time seven hours apart with no sound with two groups of different people of different sizes. How the fuck is that enough evidence to assume there was a night guard preparing for the Israelis? I'm not going to say it's unreasonable to think there was a guard of some sort somewhere, but the evidence you're basing that claim on is ridiculously ethereal.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22367226]I know most of them only want to bring supplies and to help the Gazan population, [b]but the fact that some of them are in it just to hurt Israel is undeniable.[/b][/QUOTE] At no point in this thread, or any threads, has that been denied, but you can't treat them all the same because of what was probably 3 or 4 people out of 600 or so as you have been acting.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22367226]I know most of them only want to bring supplies and to help the Gazan population, but the fact that some of them are in it just to hurt Israel is undeniable.[/QUOTE] Well yeah, maybe. That's kind of a law of large numbers sort of deal. When you get 600+ people on boat, the probability of someone disliking Israel gets kind of high. The same way when you get 600 of any people together the likelihood of at least a few of them being fucking crazy gets kind of high.
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