IDF Releases Photos of 'Weapons'(A.K.A. Common Items) From Raided Freedom Flotilla Ship - Polidicks

[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22375712]Well, it seems you are absolutely sure that Israel has video proof which shows they shot first. You obviously can't be 100% sure and can't prove that, so the claim can't be taken seriously.[/QUOTE] Then dont use the video as evidence, either accept what we say, or leave the video's showing nothing out of this.

Why? I have video evidence supporting my case, you don't, not my fault.

[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22375688]Maybe they filmed just unrelated stuff, like commandos preparing to board the ship, or just the ship from afar.[/QUOTE] This is a fucking mission camera, not one of the trainees making a youtube video. Even then, let's just assume they were busy talking into the camera about their insecure sexuality, what about the reporter's cameras? What about the ships cameras? Are you really trying to tell me that absolutely no one and nothing got footage of what happened ten minutes before the one minute clip Israel released? If so, release the footage anyway. Then we know they didn't catch it on tape.

[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22375777]Why? I have video evidence supporting my case, you don't, not my fault.[/QUOTE] You have the video that Israel isn't releasing? What?

dem dare weapons of mass destructions

[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22375777]Why? I have video evidence supporting my case, you don't, not my fault.[/QUOTE] Are you really going to make me tell you why that's wrong [I]again?[/I] Are you really so incompetent you need me to explain these things to you every fucking hour? I'd hate to see what school was like for you. "Teacher? What's two plus two?" "Four." "Alright, but teacher., what does two plus two equal?"

[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22375777]Why? I have video evidence supporting my case, you don't, not my fault.[/QUOTE] You don't have legit video evidence, as the majority of the video is missing, video evidence presented by the defender, only showing pieces that put him in a brighter light, are not legit evidence, they are the exact oposite, it suggests he has something to hide.

[QUOTE=MercZ;22375795]You have the video that Israel isn't releasing? What?[/QUOTE] No, I'm talking about the video showing the commandos rappelling, without attacking, and then getting attacked by the men on board the ship. [editline]11:21PM[/editline] [QUOTE=mobrockers;22375832]You don't have legit video evidence, as the majority of the video is missing, video evidence presented by the defender, only showing pieces that put him in a brighter light, are not legit evidence, they are the exact oposite, it suggests he has something to hide.[/QUOTE] "The majority of the video is missing" I'm assuming you know exactly how long did the IDF film the operation? And yes some of the film was cut, the parts where Israeli troops shoot the activists, but no one is claiming that they didn't so it doesn't matter.

[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22375853]No, I'm talking about the video showing the commandos rappelling, without attacking, and then getting attacked by the men on board the ship. [editline]11:21PM[/editline] "The majority of the video is missing" I'm assuming you know exactly how long did the IDF film the operation? And yes some of the film was cut, the parts where Israeli troops shoot the activists, but no one is claiming that they didn't so it doesn't matter.[/QUOTE] Then why cut it? Maybe something other than just shooting them happened? did they rape them? For all we know, they did. Also, go try and attack anyone while rapelling down a rope :smile:

Perhaps they didn't want to release videos of people shooting and killing others to the world, since that would be pretty brutal. No one has ever denied that the Israeli troops didn't kill these men, and that's obviously what's going on in the very short parts that were cut.

[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22375960]Perhaps they didn't want to release videos of people shooting and killing others to the world, since that would be pretty brutal. No one has ever denied that the Israeli troops didn't kill these men, and that's obviously what's going on in the very short parts that were cut.[/QUOTE] You mean that the whole thing only lasted one minute? :smile:

I don't know, but right now we have video evidence showing the IDF was attacked first. Until we have video evidence proved otherwise, there's nothing to argue about.

[QUOTE=Re-y-tard;22372679]I read that apparently some of the IDF have gunshot wounds from a 9 mm... IDF Commandos don't carry nines.[/QUOTE] They did carry 9mms on that event. Paintball was the main weapon. 9mm was the secondry.

[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22376043] Until we have video evidence proved otherwise, there's nothing to argue about.[/QUOTE] We shall not question Israel! :downs:

[QUOTE=MercZ;22376516]We shall not question Israel! :downs:[/QUOTE] Not if there's video evidence proving their case, while there aren't any disproving it.

[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22376633]Not if there's video evidence proving their case, while there aren't any disproving it.[/QUOTE] There's no evidence proving Iraq never had WMDs, so surely that means there still might be some :downs:

[QUOTE=MercZ;22376689]There's no evidence proving Iraq never had WMDs, so surely that means there still might be some :downs:[/QUOTE] This doesn't work the other way. There's no evidence which shows Iraq has WMDs, so until we find some, they officially do not have any. That is the correct sentence regarding the issue.

[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22376633]Not if there's video evidence proving their case, while there aren't any disproving it.[/QUOTE] What exactly is that one minute clip you keep citing supposed to prove? It begins in the middle of the conflict.

[QUOTE=johnlukeg;22376778]What exactly is that one minute clip you keep citing supposed to prove? It begins in the middle of the conflict.[/QUOTE] Indeed, and he still thinks it is evidence.

[QUOTE=johnlukeg;22376778]What exactly is that one minute clip you keep citing supposed to prove? It begins in the middle of the conflict.[/QUOTE] He's just dick riding the Israeli government's account. Apparently it doesn't matter that even groups within Israel have condemned the action. He's posting apologist blathering on any related thread.

[QUOTE=Fippe;22375063]No idea why there would be fireworks on board as they didn't use them to attack IDF or anything.[/QUOTE] Fireworks are banned from Gaza.

It doesn't, it begins right at the start of the conflict.

[QUOTE=Number-41;22298943]Oh my look at those AK's & bazookas [url]http://idfspokesperson.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/13.jpg[/url][/QUOTE] That keyboard could be used to make an IED, lets take it. Really Israel, Really?

If you're talking about [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jambiya"]this[/URL], it's completely normal to have one if you're from Yemen.

[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;22386703]I don't see how you would use an arab dagger to cut a rope or cut open plastic.[/QUOTE] it's donated

Wow, just read some posts that support that the IDF shot the ship prior to boarding it. Besides the fact that the ACTIVISTS say that, it is completely illogical and stupid. Why would the IDF shoot the boat before boarding? If the point was to harm the activists they could easily do it by killing them all. As I'm sure you have seen in the video posted millions of times, the commandos are boarded on the ship 1 by 1 and are beaten up with sticks, knives, whatever. One is also thrown off board. And after watching that you tell me that the activists were defending? Why would the IDF soldiers board the ship, initially with paintball guns and be beaten up, if they intended to attack the ship? Quick, find some other bullshit.

Well, the IDF initially tried to board the ship on boats, but were repelled. Israel hasn't released any video of that stage yet, though. It seems people watch the one minute clip and think that it's the first contact between the two sides, but it isn't. Hopefully the uncut video will be released soon and will clear things up.

No, there was contact before the rappelling: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6sAEYpHF24&feature=related[/media]

[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22389051]No, there was contact before the rappelling: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6sAEYpHF24&feature=related[/media][/QUOTE] Good, this supports my post even more.