IDF Releases Photos of 'Weapons'(A.K.A. Common Items) From Raided Freedom Flotilla Ship - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Sickle;22305091]Oh yeah, cameras.[/QUOTE] You can never be sure. How could they know? The cruise was mainly supported by radical islamic groups.

You people fail to grasp simple logic. It's as if you are so stiffened onto your own opinion that you will not even look at everyone else's opinion. Which, in this case is right. BAZ is right, you are not worth replying to.

[QUOTE=Deathbane;22305069]Israel was provoked first by the flotilla attempting to breach the blockade. They went to make a protest, and got their people killed by poking the bigger, asleep predator with a sharp stick. It was obvious this would happen. Anybody with a brain knew this was coming.[/QUOTE] The blockade is illegal, it doesn't matter. I could create a blockade in the middle of the Atlantic, and threaten any nation with military action if they breach it, would it be legal? Nope.

[QUOTE=Sickle;22305119]You people fail to grasp simple logic. It's as if you are so stiffened onto your own opinion that you will not even look at everyone else's opinion. Which, in this case is right. BAZ is right, you are not worth replying to.[/QUOTE] Oh, you have run out of arguments.

[QUOTE=Sickle;22305097]Also; International fucking waters.[/QUOTE] This may be illigeal, but it doesn't mean that what israel did was wrong. Trying to keep weapons away from your enemies while still providing the citizens with food clothes and other goods is not a crime to me. Does it matter if they did it in international waters or not? outcome would have been the same.

[QUOTE=BAZ;22304997]I tell you what I wouldn't do. Kill him with a gun.[/QUOTE] Because a mob of people attacking you could be suppressed with your bare fists... Of course. I'm not arguing in favor of the IDF though, fuck them to hell after this.

[QUOTE=Glorbo;22304586]How exactly are you going to defend yourself against 15 people beating the shit out of you with metal poles?[/QUOTE] You fire a warning shot, if that doesn't work you fire another, if they still persist THEN you shoot them in the legs or something, it wasn't necessary to kill anyone, maybe wound them as an example so that others didn't try to resist, but certainly not kill anyone unless they were firing at them.

[QUOTE=Glorbo;22305129]This may be illigeal, but it doesn't mean that what israel did was wrong. Does it matter if they did it in international waters or not? outcome would have been the same.[/QUOTE] You contradicted yourself twice.

[QUOTE=Sickle;22305097]Also; International fucking waters.[/QUOTE] Also; intent to be a dick and break the blockade simply to cause controversy. Instead you have ten dead. Good going there, getting that aid to the palestinians and all (something i have nothing against).

[QUOTE=Glorbo;22305082]Ignored what I said, did not try to counter my argument.[/QUOTE] Oh wow ahahahaha. Here's my final comment, because you've already proven your posts and thoughts to be completely irrational. According to you, if someone is running at you with a club, and you have a gun the only option is to either shoot them or do nothing and get beaten. This just solidifies my point.

[QUOTE=Sickle;22305157]You contradicted yourself twice.[/QUOTE] Please, explain.

[QUOTE=DrMortician;22305150]Because a mob of people attacking you could be suppressed with your bare fists... Of course. I'm not arguing in favor of the IDF though, fuck them to hell after this.[/QUOTE] Read above.

[QUOTE=BAZ;22305169]Oh wow ahahahaha. Here's my final comment, because you've already proven your posts and thoughts to be completely irrational. According to you, if someone is running at you with a club, and you have a gun the only option is to either shoot them or do nothing and get beaten. This just solidifies my point.[/QUOTE] What else is there that would be a logical option? If you have a tactical advantage, you use it.

[QUOTE=DeanWinchester;22305153]You fire a warning shot, if that doesn't work you fire another, if they still persist THEN you shoot them in the legs or something, it wasn't necessary to kill anyone, maybe wound them as an example so that others didn't try to resist, but certainly not kill anyone unless they were firing at them.[/QUOTE] Speaking as you are, I would imagine you have extensive experience as a riot officer or soldier?

[QUOTE=Sickle;22305157]You contradicted yourself twice.[/QUOTE] illegal =/= wrong. By default. It just means its frowned upon by the community at large.

[QUOTE=BAZ;22305169]Oh wow ahahahaha. Here's my final comment, because you've already proven your posts and thoughts to be completely irrational. According to you, if someone is running at you with a club, and you have a gun the only option is to either shoot them or do nothing and get beaten. This just solidifies my point.[/QUOTE] It wasn't just one man you twat. at least 30 or 40. and it wasnt exactly "running" either. they just surrounded them and beat them with clubs. Didn't you see the video?

[QUOTE=Deathbane;22305165]Also; intent to be a dick and break the blockade simply to cause controversy. Instead you have ten dead. Good going there, getting that aid to the palestinians and all (something i have nothing against).[/QUOTE] You fail to understand the legal system. The blockage is illegal, therefore nations cannot recognize it. If I made a blockade in the Atlantic and threatened military action, it'd still be illegal.

[QUOTE=BAZ;22305169]Oh wow ahahahaha. Here's my final comment, because you've already proven your posts and thoughts to be completely irrational. According to you, if someone is running at you with a club, and you have a gun the only option is to either shoot them or do nothing and get beaten. This just solidifies my point.[/QUOTE] His point is that you either kill them or they beat you. Shooting is fine as long as you shoot them somewhere non-fatal (in case they are really threatening your well-being)

[QUOTE=Glorbo;22305200]It wasn't just one man you twat. at least 30 or 40. and it wasnt exactly "running" either. they just surrounded them and beat them with clubs. Didn't you see the video?[/QUOTE] My god. You are completely insane.

[QUOTE=Sickle;22305228]My god. You are completely insane.[/QUOTE] It would be great, if you atleast [I]tried[/I] to provide some reasons.

[QUOTE=Glorbo;22305200]It wasn't just one man you twat. at least 30 or 40. and it wasnt exactly "running" either. they just surrounded them and beat them with clubs. Didn't you see the video?[/QUOTE] Because Israel HAD NO RIGHT to board that ship.

[QUOTE=bugfix;22305250]It would be great, if you atleast [I]tried[/I] to provide some reasons.[/QUOTE] It would be great if you contributed something. Else; shut up.

[QUOTE=starpluck;22305209]You fail to understand the legal system. The blockage is illegal, therefore nations cannot recognize it. If I made a blockade in the Atlantic and threatened military action, it'd still be illegal.[/QUOTE] But we're not arguing the legality of the matter. We are discusssing this point- is the blockade wrong or right?

[QUOTE=Sickle;22305259]It would be great if you contributed something. Else; shut up.[/QUOTE] I'm actively taking part in this discussion. And I'm not letting [I]you[/I] tell me to shut up.

[QUOTE=Sickle;22305228]My god. You are completely insane.[/QUOTE] You can clearly see it in both of the videos. The fact that you don't agree to look at them makes you even more of a twat.

Israel opening fire before boarding the ship that had encountered illegal blockades and protested for right to enter is completely fucking irrational. Re. Tard. Ed. [editline]08:45PM[/editline] [QUOTE=bugfix;22305275]I'm actively taking part in this discussion. And I'm not letting [I]you[/I] tell me to shut up.[/QUOTE] Actively taking part does not justify constantly trying to put me down so I cannot enforce my opinion. Maybe you should shut up. All you do is infuriate people and get pissed off when they retaliate.

ITs legallity is DISPUTED. Its not shown to be illegal, as any search on google will show. I see if this way. If i say i was going to murder someone, they would stop me before i did. The ships said theyd break the blockade, which israel believes is legal, and has b een enforcing since 2007 without it being overturned may i add. Therefore, they took action on what they saw as a hostile threat, which IS legal, the same as you have allowed to intercept pirates in international waters. You are still ignoring the fact it was about causing trouble, and not about aid. They wanted to be attacked to start this shitstorm,

[QUOTE=Glorbo;22305276]You can clearly see it in both of the videos. The fact that you don't agree to look at them makes you even more of a twat.[/QUOTE] I have seen them.

[QUOTE=Sickle;22305281] All you do is infuriate people and get pissed off when they retaliate.[/QUOTE] Wait. You're doing that.

[QUOTE=Sickle;22305281]Israel opening fire before boarding the ship that had encountered illegal blockades and protested for right to enter is completely fucking irrational. Re. Tard. Ed. [editline]08:45PM[/editline] Actively taking part does not justify constantly trying to put me down so I cannot enforce my opinion. Maybe you should shut up. All you do is infuriate people and get pissed off when they retaliate.[/QUOTE] EVIDENCE PLEASE. If they find bulletholes on the lower deck of the ship after investigation, im fully with ya.