WSJ RUMOR: PS4 to Provide PS3 "Compatibility" Solely Through Gaikai Streaming
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[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;39611476]Nope. My launch model PS3 died after 4 years.[/QUOTE]
The PS3 didn't have amazing reliability, but compared to the 360 it failed amazingly less.
For visible proof of this, the PS3 Wikipedia article has a small three paragraph section on its reliability, whereas the 360 article links to an entire page about technical issues.
uh the launch PS3 models had failure rates below 1% (according to a Sony rep in 2007, 0.02%) while the Xbox 360 sat around a third (~34%) of all units, and my 80 GB PS3 is still working perfectly fine since I got it in 2006
[QUOTE=Odellus;39611887]uh the launch PS3 models had failure rates below 1% (according to a Sony rep in 2007, 0.02%) while the Xbox 360 sat around a third (~27%) of all units, and my 80 GB PS3 is still working perfectly fine since I got it in 2006[/QUOTE]
Yep: [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8263063.stm[/url]
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Sony told the Watchdog programme that "less than half a percent" of the 2.5 million consoles it has sold exhibited the "yellow light" phenomenon when they failed.
The programme quoted the figure as 12,500 consoles - half a percent of that 2.5 million figure - but a spokesperson for Sony said the number is less than that.
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[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;39611296]PS3's have notoriously short lifespands though. If you buy a PS3 right when they are discontinued you're going to be lucky to get 2 years out of it before it dies.[/QUOTE]
I had one of those fatass PS3s that did PS2 games and it only just died last year.
Well, looks like I'll be keeping my PS3 around when the PS4 comes. My No-BluRay paperweight sitting next to it should provide some decent cash towards a PS4.
Bye bye 360, it's been fun!
Unless of course Sony pulls what they did last time and has such a ridiculous price tag. And, if your PS3 is YLODing, I think that's a sure sign you've spent a tad bit much time playing games when you should have been doing something else. I've never had to deal with a console failure before because I don't let them get knocked around too much or played to the point of overheating. Also, it helps to have your consoles in a cool area of your house instead of just any room of your house, such as a basement.
I suppose when I think about it streaming may be the only way to provide such compatibility at all. Emulating the cell would be far too technically complicated to be feasible I think, and taking an approach similar to what they did with the OG PS3 is out of the question (building a ps2 onto the ps3 motherboard). If the PS4 is still powerpc based it would be a lot more feasible to consider software compatibility, but usually cross architecture console hardware has minimal backwards compatibility. This may be interesting, as a streaming service can effectively be adapted to anything capable of running the video decoding.
[QUOTE=nintenman1;39612247]I suppose when I think about it streaming may be the only way to provide such compatibility at all. Emulating the cell would be far too technically complicated to be feasible I think, and taking an approach similar to what they did with the OG PS3 is out of the question (building a ps2 onto the ps3 motherboard). If the PS4 is still powerpc based it would be a lot more feasible to consider software compatibility, but usually cross architecture console hardware has minimal backwards compatibility. This may be interesting, as a streaming service can effectively be adapted to anything capable of running the video decoding.[/QUOTE]
The current popular and apparently accepted rumor is that it'll be using a PC CPU, not PowerPC.
Would be cool if you gotta all the games for free if you're a PlayStation Plus member.
I kinda want Sony to do the same thing they did with the PS3 and provide full backwards compatibility for games two generations behind, with maybe slightly enhanced graphics somehow
Wishful thinking but it'd be a pretty nice thing to play your existing PS2 library on the PS4, and that still gives them plenty of room to have people buy the greatest PS3 games again.
[QUOTE=latin_geek;39613320]I kinda want Sony to do the same thing they did with the PS3 and provide full backwards compatibility for games two generations behind, with maybe slightly enhanced graphics somehow
Wishful thinking but it'd be a pretty nice thing to play your existing PS2 library on the PS4, and that still gives them plenty of room to have people buy the greatest PS3 games again.[/QUOTE]
so you not only want PS3 hardware inside the PS4, you also want PS2 hardware AND for them to update the older games' graphics? what kind of fantasy world are you living in?
There is no way it'd be possible to be backwards compatible, CELL is a dead architecture
[QUOTE=The Baconator;39613620]There is no way it'd be possible to be backwards compatible, CELL is a dead architecture[/QUOTE]
it would work the same way backwards compatibility worked with the PS3, has nothing to do with the architecture
[QUOTE=Odellus;39613632]it would work the same way backwards compatibility worked with the PS3, has nothing to do with the architecture[/QUOTE]
The ps3 had a built in ps2 for backwards comp
[QUOTE=The Baconator;39613651]The ps3 had a built in ps2 for backwards comp[/QUOTE]
so you see why it's completely possible then, just not feasible
[QUOTE=The Baconator;39613651]The ps3 had a built in ps2 for backwards comp[/QUOTE]
How do the ones that don't have PS2 hardware play PS1 games just fine, then? Also there were a couple british models with software-only PS2 emulation.
[QUOTE=latin_geek;39613780]How do the ones that don't have PS2 hardware play PS1 games just fine, then? Also there were a couple british models with software-only PS2 emulation.[/QUOTE]
PS1 is all software emulation as far as I'm aware.
[QUOTE=Wiggles;39613831]PS1 is all software emulation as far as I'm aware.[/QUOTE]
and it's pretty bad
[QUOTE=Wiggles;39613831]PS1 is all software emulation as far as I'm aware.[/QUOTE]
When I tried to use my PS2's backward compatibility, I either got a black screen, or it would send me to the memory card menu, without even telling me "Please insert a disc with format..." or anything like that.
Shame, I really wanted to play some Yu-gi-oh, or Mega Man X6...
[QUOTE=Wiggles;39613831]PS1 is all software emulation as far as I'm aware.[/QUOTE]
Well then you'd think a machine two steps ahead of the other would have had enough of a technological advancement to emulate it. Specially with the fact that it had been done before on a less powerful machine.
[QUOTE=Odellus;39613694]so you see why it's completely possible then, just not feasible[/QUOTE]
It's not even possible, IBM isn't going to continue manufacturing the Cell processor solely for Sony just to make PS4s backwards compatible
[QUOTE=latin_geek;39614576]Well then you'd think a machine two steps ahead of the other would have had enough of a technological advancement to emulate it. Specially with the fact that it had been done before on a less powerful machine.[/QUOTE]
Software emulation is never the best choice, hardware emulation is the only way to get results that are consistently successful.
Case in point, there's only one really successful PS2 emulator on PC, and even so there are many games that outright don't work right because it's software emulation.
Even the Xbox 360 fails to have perfect backwards compatibility through software. If anyone should know the hardware of the original Xbox, shouldn't it be MS?
The PS3 never had full software emulation, only partial. The eu models had a GS chip in them.
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