[QUOTE=SKEEA;39115602]This ban is just a simple piece of bad legislation. None of this accomplishes anything meaningful at all. I am confused as to why she even thinks this would actually do anything. I think it is high time that some reporter or other entity goes up to her with a list of all the features that are banned, and ask her exactly what each feature: A: Is, B: does to improve the lethality of the firearm, and C: What the reasoning for that feature being outlawed is. I don't think that I have seen anyone do this, and I bet if they did, she would make a complete ass out of herself, or just go "no comment", destroying what little credibility she had in the first place. It literally baffles my mind how anyone could consider all of the provisions in this bill to be a good idea.[/QUOTE]
She's ignorant and stupid on top of being a hypocrite. She has a CCW
Average politician advocating more gun control.
[video=youtube;9rGpykAX1fo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rGpykAX1fo[/video]
Watch as I don't register my rifle. Even if this passes so many people would be in an uproar that it couldn't be properly enforced
[QUOTE=Aman VII;39115611]She's ignorant and stupid on top of being a hypocrite. She has a CCW[/QUOTE]
A fact of which I am well aware of. I come from California, and she does this kind of thing a lot. She is a massive hypocrite.
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Fuck it, all of you take your argument there. That's what it's for
[QUOTE=download;39115603]Sobotnik, take your argument to MD[/QUOTE]
What so we can ignore bullshit like:
[quote]Its hard to be bias with the truth.[/quote]
That quote there, is utter shit.
[QUOTE=download;39115641]Fuck it, all of you take your argument there. That's what it's for[/QUOTE]
Who says? SH involves debating as well.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;39115643]What so we can ignore bullshit like:
That quote there, is utter shit.[/QUOTE]
Sobotnik, just shut the fuck up and get your pimply arse back to your opinionated self.
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[QUOTE=Aman VII;39115647]Who says? SH involves debating as well.[/QUOTE]
Because it quickly degrades into shit and they we can't actually discuss the news
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;39115643]What so we can ignore bullshit like:
That quote there, is utter shit.[/QUOTE]
What about shit like:
"If you own a gun for self defence you intend to kill somebody?" should that be ignored as well? I'm sorry but I'm sure there are many many people who would agree with me here.. ban lists and "assault weapon" bans are absolutely stupid wont do jack shit because the real issues here are untreated mental illness and stupid politicians. We don't need more gun control, what we need is more informed politicians.
[QUOTE=Aman VII;39115647]Who says? SH involves debating as well.[/QUOTE]
It's just going to be the 50th thread in the past 3 months with each side making the same points that have been made in all the other threads and showering each other in dumbs.
[QUOTE=Moustacheman;39115659]Sobotnik, just shut the fuck up and get your pimply arse back to your opinionated self.[/QUOTE]
I'm calling out bullshit where I see it.
Much of what laserguided said, is bullshit.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;39115689]I'm calling out bullshit where I see it.
Much of what laserguided said, is bullshit.[/QUOTE]
You're going after me for one statement, about how there aren't any credible arguments for more gun control and ignoring near everything else.
[QUOTE=laserguided;39115673]What about shit like:
"If you own a gun for self defence you intend to kill somebody?" should that be ignored as well? I'm sorry but I'm sure there are many many people who would agree with me here.. ban lists and "assault weapon" bans are absolutely stupid wont do jack shit because the real issues here are untreated mental illness and stupid politicians. We don't need more gun control, what we need is more informed politicians.[/QUOTE]
ok sweety fuck that to one side thats utterly irrelevant
[quote]This isn't very fucking helpful.
Each state in America has different laws, each country in the world has different laws.
Which laws? Which state? What model? What the fuck sort of meaningless statement is "It's fine at the moment"?
Do the Japanese have the desired status quo? Do the Swiss have the desired Status quo? Texas? Maine? Kentucky? Oregon? California? Again, your statements make no fucking sense.[/quote]
Response please?
[QUOTE=The golden;39115697]But yet every other SH topic is allowed to have debates about their outstanding issues?
Bullshit. You just want to eliminate him so you can circlejerk.[/QUOTE]
Or maybe it is because we want to avoid the same argument that has been going on ad infinitum in SH for the past couple weeks.
[QUOTE=SKEEA;39115704]Or maybe it is because we want to avoid the same argument that has been going on ad infinitum in SH for the past couple weeks.[/QUOTE]
uhm
no-one's forcing anyone to post
if you don't want to have the same argument then uh
don't?
Also, it didn't even take two pages for this thread to devolve into ad hominem central. Good work fellas, really making your individual sides on the subject look great.
[QUOTE=SKEEA;39115704]Or maybe it is because we want to avoid the same argument that has been going on ad infinitum in SH for the past couple weeks.[/QUOTE]
The reason this has been going on for ages is because gunpunchers won't stop clogging SH with their gun threads on the news.
After posted, in comes the circlejerk to say "oh look guys, look how stupid the gun control side is" before sitting smugly and waiting for the posts to come in before going. "oh we don't want these arguments please take them elsewhere". This is finished with a circlejerk of insane gunpunchers going on about how their side is so great, jumping on every single fucking shooting to make a thread to push their childish agenda with bullshit reasoning.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;39115701]ok sweety fuck that to one side thats utterly irrelevant
Response please?[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_States"]US federal gun law requirements[/URL], I don't think it needs to be any harsher than that. Some states have varying law, but I don't think assault weapon bans like that of California are needed. On average, I think the current amount of gun control in the US is currently fine the way it is excluding California.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;39115750] going on about how their side is so great, jumping on every single fucking shooting to make a thread to push their childish agenda with bullshit reasoning.[/QUOTE]
Wut? Cmon now that is like an exact description of anti gunners
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except the making thread part of course, can't do that irl
[QUOTE=laserguided;39115761][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_States"]US federal gun law requirements[/URL], I don't think it needs to be any harsher than that.Some states have varying law, but I don't think assault weapon bans like that of California are needed. On average, I think the current amount of gun control in the US is currently fine the way it is excluding California.[/QUOTE]
What is the "average"?
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;39115766]What is the "average"?[/QUOTE]
He just posted a link...
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you quoted the link
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;39115766]What is the "average"?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_the_United_States_by_state[/url]
Figure it out.
Let me clarify, let us debate this particular piece of legislation rather than a total gun ban or total anarchy for once.
[QUOTE=Aman VII;39115763]Wut? Cmon now that is like an exact description of anti gunners
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except the making thread part of course, can't do that irl[/QUOTE]
There's six fucking threads on the front page, 4 of which are by the same poster.
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[QUOTE=Aman VII;39115770]He just posted a link...
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you quoted the link[/QUOTE]
There is no average in there.
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[QUOTE=laserguided;39115776][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_the_United_States_by_state[/url]
Figure it out.[/QUOTE]
This doesn't give me a helpful "average". They all wildly differ.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;39115789]There's six fucking threads on the front page, 4 of which are by the same poster.
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There is no average in there.
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This doesn't give me a helpful "average". They all wildly differ.[/QUOTE]
Most of the states in that checklist essentially abide by federal requirements with their odd piece of legislation inserted here or there. Can you stop being a brick and comprehend what I'm trying to say for once?
Want a simple answer? Federal law listed on the first link I sent you.
You're being difficult for the sake of being difficult.
[QUOTE=laserguided;39115822]Most of the states in that checklist essentially abide by federal requirements with their odd piece of legislation inserted here or there. Can you stop being a brick and comprehend what I'm trying to say for once?
Want a simple answer? Federal law listed on the first link I sent you.
You're being difficult for the sake of being difficult.[/QUOTE]
You said the law is fine as it is.
Is it the federal law you are fine with? Is it a certain checklist of various laws in different states?
There isn't an average, stop inventing things.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;39115863]You said the law is fine as it is.
Is it the federal law you are fine with? Is it a certain checklist of various laws in different states?
There isn't an average, stop inventing things.[/QUOTE]
Federal. I just told you that.
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For anybody else, this may help you understand why the assault weapons ban makes no sense at all.
[video=youtube;ysf8x477c30]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysf8x477c30[/video]
Guns just need to be like cars; mandatory courses, health checks, background checks, etc...
Although it would be nice that assault weapons (whatever they are) were banned they might as well focus on handguns, which pretty much constitute the bulk of firearms used in gun crime
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