Record-High 50% of Americans Favor Legalizing Marijuana Use
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[QUOTE=zin908;32842502]we would never get to the point you described.[/QUOTE]
Your state of mind must have changed at least, do you remember how you were thinking when you did that amount of it?
[QUOTE=AK'z;32842537]Your state of mind must have changed at least, do you remember how you were thinking when you did that amount of it?[/QUOTE]
You completely missed the point.
[QUOTE=teslacoil;32842573]You completely missed the point.[/QUOTE]
I'm just asking him a question, bro.
[QUOTE=AK'z;32842537]Your state of mind must have changed at least, do you remember how you were thinking when you did that amount of it?[/QUOTE]
Ofcourse it changed, but not in a way where I lost sense of reality. When I get really high the most that happens physically to me is I feel slightly more warmer inside and a more relaxed. I am still aware, I can physically and mentally operate and if necessary hide absolutely any trace that I am baked out my nut by changing the way I act. When you smoke weed for a good amount of time you know how to put your game face on and be act completely sober. If anything I am more cautious when I am high, which completely contrasts when I am drunk on a satarday night, where I couldn't give two shits.
[QUOTE=HawkeyeTy;32840271]As nice as this is, I don't see the States legalizing pot anytime in the near future. Obama's pretty much flat out ignored what he said during his campaigning about it so it will probably always be illegal on a Federal level while he's in office. Which sucks.[/QUOTE]
To be fair, the guys pretty busy with other things right now.
[QUOTE=Ihazard;32840446]Is weed like a big thing in the US? From what I see in the UK people look down on it as being really childish and irresponsible, just like with smoking[/QUOTE]
Yeah its a big deal. Because we want personal freedoms to put what ever we want into our bodies.
[QUOTE=AK'z;32842011]Again, the arguement where alcohol makes you vomit still stands. So if a person went out to get heavily drunk, they would lose the dangerous amount.[/QUOTE]
What. Nobody can be so dumb that they think that drinking so much alcohol that it's dangerous will cause your body to make it less dangerous.. Have you ever heard the term "alcohol poisoning" ? People drink so much they die, their body doesn't "lose the dangerous amount"
[QUOTE=Vandl92;32842689]What. Nobody can be so dumb that they think that drinking so much alcohol that it's dangerous will cause your body to make it less dangerous.. Have you ever heard the term "alcohol poisoning" ? People drink so much they die, their body doesn't "lose the dangerous amount"[/QUOTE]
It does if the body isn't use to the level of alcohol in the system.
Then again if the vomit function is disabled as someone said, then clearly the arguement doesn't stand.
I don't live in the US, and shouldn't partake in the discussion, and I would say that legalizing pot would be okay as long as it's regulated and that it's nothing you can do in public.
Drunk people are annoying as fuck, I wouldn't want streets to be littered with stoned people as well.
[QUOTE=AK'z;32842727]It does if the body isn't use to the level of alcohol in the system.[/QUOTE]
That doesn't even make sense, are you saying that if someone isn't used to drinking a dangerous amount and they do their body will cure itself? That's insane. People who are inexperienced with alcohol are more easily susceptible to alcohol poisoning, their body isn't used to processing it and shuts down. If by that you mean drinking a huge amount of alcohol at once, that's even more dangerous, the body doesn't regulate how much you drink, it won't stop you once it gets dangerous.
[url]http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/alcohol-poisoning/DS00861[/url]
Good thing it's essentially legal in New Zealand. Cops (in my experience) just don't really care if they catch you with it.
However I haven't lived in Australia long enough to see how they feel about it.
Never tried pot and I'm not planning on doing it but if it's considered a drug, with all the drug-induced effects then it shouldn't be legalized. Addictions are bad m'kay.
[QUOTE=AK'z;32842258]Out of body experiences with music.
That's why I named Dark Side of the Moon because it's fairly simple to know where it's coming from.
You can all complain about me being pretentious but if you don't want to know where I'm coming from, then don't read it.
I may not have had an experience with chemicals, but I know a lot of people that have. The words they have to say about it, relate to the experiences that I have had with music.
teslacoil doesn't have to reply to this.[/QUOTE]
you've never smoked weed.
you've never tripped on acid.
you've never tripped on shrooms.
you've never tripped on salvia.
you haven't done any of the shit I've done. You can't speak from experience if there is a lack of experience. You need to understand that you are completely incorrect and that arguing what you're arguing is making you look like a pompous ass.
Marijuana =/= LSD. In any way, shape, or form. LSD is mostly synthetic, cannabis grows in the ground. It's a fucking plant. LSD causes hallucinations, cannabis causes munchies and couch lock. Nowhere near the same intensity.
You're just wrong, and defending information that you've either misinterpreted or completely made up.
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[QUOTE=AK'z;32842455]True, LSD is the far end of the spectrum in terms of these experiences. There could be a way of gaining a similar experience if you smoked enough of it.[/QUOTE]
it is physically impossible to smoke enough weed to get a high similair to an LSD trip. It just doesn't happen, and it will never happen, because comparing the two for argument's sake is fucking retarded. It's like comparing a Fiat 500 to a Mercedes Benz SLS AMG. They're completely different in every way.
In the US, we kind of have a stereotype where smoking weed makes you lazy and laugh at everything, so I'm thinking the main reason is because top-brass assumes that marijuana's for unproductive, outcast washouts who don't plan on getting anything done (which is pretty much how the media's portrayed pot-smokers for a long time).
I can't really see any evidence for the above, at least unless you're a very heavy smoker (well, I guess if you count those botched monkey experiments, then yes, they could kill brain cells), but I've never really read anywhere where it said that marijuana could create a psychedelic experience on the levels of what AK'z is trying to say. But anyways I digress
I still think that even if it's legalized there needs to be some sort of limit on it (maybe not necessarily possession so much as how much you can legally carry on you), and obviously harsh penalties for being caught driving under the influence, smoking in a public area, etc.
[QUOTE=zin908;32842614]Ofcourse it changed, but not in a way where I lost sense of reality. When I get really high the most that happens physically to me is I feel slightly more warmer inside and a more relaxed. I am still aware, I can physically and mentally operate and if necessary hide absolutely any trace that I am baked out my nut by changing the way I act. When you smoke weed for a good amount of time you know how to put your game face on and be act completely sober. If anything I am more cautious when I am high, which completely contrasts when I am drunk on a satarday night, where I couldn't give two shits.[/QUOTE]
I get high, I have to lay on the ground or I'm afraid I'll fall over. Even when I'm in bed, I must be laying on a hard surface. Its why I do it only during the day.
[QUOTE=Swilly;32843275]I get high, I have to lay on the ground or I'm afraid I'll fall over. Even when I'm in bed, I must be laying on a hard surface. Its why I do it only during the day.[/QUOTE]
Same shit with my brother, though I have no such problems myself when baked.
[QUOTE=itak365;32843165]
I still think that even if it's legalized there needs to be some sort of limit on it (maybe not necessarily possession so much as how much you can legally carry on you), and obviously harsh penalties for being caught driving under the influence, [B]smoking in a public area, [/B]etc.[/QUOTE]
Penalty for smoking weed in a public area is as logical as setting penalties on smoking tobacco in a public area. In fact, seeing as tobacco smoke is generally more harmful, [I]that[/I] should be penalized and not weed if it was legalized.
Still, smoke is bad but I don't believe in making it illegal to smoke in public areas such as parks, parking lots, etc (bus-queues and closed spaces however... Get the FUCK out of those, smokers, please).
[QUOTE=Van-man;32843334]Same shit with my brother, though I have no such problems myself when baked.[/QUOTE]
Its like you start feeling the earth's rotation, and cause its going so fast in reality, you can't keep your balance.
It can't be sold by medical companies because it's natural.
MAKE IT ILLEGAL!
[QUOTE=Mooe94;32843386]Penalty for smoking weed in a public area is as logical as setting penalties on smoking tobacco in a public area. In fact, seeing as tobacco smoke is generally more harmful, [I]that[/I] should be penalized and not weed if it was legalized.
Still, smoke is bad but I don't believe in making it illegal to smoke in public areas such as parks, parking lots, etc (bus-queues and closed spaces however... Get the FUCK out of those, smokers, please).[/QUOTE]
Well, I didn't really mean make it illegal, but like... You know how some places have designated smoking areas, on campuses like mine, etc? It might just be a good idea to create these places, or include marijuana smokers as well. At least if you're going to light up where there's a lot of pedestrian traffic (although I have a feeling on campus, people aren't going to smoke a joint before going to class anyways, so using my university is a bad example). If you're in a parking lot or something, it should be legal, but it's up to you not to be arrested for loitering or violating any rules that the property has regarding smoking.
I guess tl;dr is that if there's any rules in place for smoking in a certain area, the same should apply were marijuana to be legal.
On a completely different note. I'm not too familiar, but are there/would there be legitimate companies that would sell marijuana? Seems like for a while it'd mostly be produced on an individual basis.
[QUOTE=AK'z;32841852]Depends what you're drinking. Not many people are dumb enough to try Absinthe.[/QUOTE]
wowowowow are you kidding me
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[QUOTE=AK'z;32842133]Anyone can have a psych experience with marajuana, therefore no.[/QUOTE]
No they can't.
[editline]18th October 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Javascript;32843088]you've never smoked weed.
you've never tripped on acid.
you've never tripped on shrooms.
you've never tripped on salvia.
you haven't done any of the shit I've done. You can't speak from experience if there is a lack of experience. You need to understand that you are completely incorrect and that arguing what you're arguing is making you look like a pompous ass.
Marijuana =/= LSD. In any way, shape, or form. LSD is mostly synthetic, cannabis grows in the ground. It's a fucking plant. LSD causes hallucinations, cannabis causes munchies and couch lock. Nowhere near the same intensity.
You're just wrong, and defending information that you've either misinterpreted or completely made up.
[editline]18th October 2011[/editline]
it is physically impossible to smoke enough weed to get a high similair to an LSD trip. It just doesn't happen, and it will never happen, because comparing the two for argument's sake is fucking retarded. It's like comparing a Fiat 500 to a Mercedes Benz SLS AMG. They're completely different in every way.[/QUOTE]
Study this.
[QUOTE=Cypher_09;32843590]wowowowow are you kidding me
No they can't.
Study this.[/QUOTE]
No, I don't want to smoke weed and trip on acid in order to understand what a drug experience is like.
Words may not be able to describe the experience, seeing as people are being so vague here about the actual experience.
[QUOTE=itak365;32843520]Well, I didn't really mean make it illegal, but like... You know how some places have designated smoking areas, on campuses like mine, etc? It might just be a good idea to create these places, or include marijuana smokers as well. At least if you're going to light up where there's a lot of pedestrian traffic (although I have a feeling on campus, people aren't going to smoke a joint before going to class anyways, so using my university is a bad example). If you're in a parking lot or something, it should be legal, but it's up to you not to be arrested for loitering or violating any rules that the property has regarding smoking.
I guess tl;dr is that if there's any rules in place for smoking in a certain area, the same should apply were marijuana to be legal.[/QUOTE]
I can see that happening, yeah, sure. Designated smoking areas should be followed so people with asthma and people like me who just don't like the smell of tobacco won't have to cough it up all the time you step out of your own school/workplace. It's really annoying and it smells like piss (it's also kind of harmful).
[QUOTE=itak365;32843520]On a completely different note. I'm not too familiar, but are there/would there be legitimate companies that would sell marijuana? Seems like for a while it'd mostly be produced on an individual basis.[/QUOTE]
Definitely. Marijuana is used by many and is one of the most coveted (desired) drugs today (and will continually grow to be more desirable when some of the health benefits come to be granted) and has really nice potential on bringing in money.
It's easy to grow, maintain (for the most part) and you can grow it in extremely large quantities. I think it's even easier to grow good weed than decent tobacco.
I think it's literally one of the best plants on the planet. It's use of hemp is humongous and the material itself is extremely sturdy!
Nor should you feel pressured to do so.
I do however think it's complete nonsense to say that people cannot die from alcohol if they do not drink absinthe.
still this proves something its never gonna become legalized though
I think the best thing about this article is that it appears that most conservatives are old, and thus when they all die off everything should become more liberal
A severe reduction in bible thumping christians hooray!
[QUOTE=AK'z;32843865]No, I don't want to smoke weed and trip on acid in order to understand what a drug experience is like.[/QUOTE]
Well then you'll never understand them.
Simple as that.
[QUOTE=Icedshot;32844251]I think the best thing about this article is that it appears that most conservatives are old, and thus when they all die off everything should become more liberal
A severe reduction in bible thumping christians hooray![/QUOTE]
good insight! there is hope :v:
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