Record-High 50% of Americans Favor Legalizing Marijuana Use
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[QUOTE=Ihazard;32840446]Is weed like a big thing in the US? From what I see in the UK people look down on it as being really childish and irresponsible, just like with smoking[/QUOTE]
Well I want Hemp to be legal, so we can replace lumber with Hemp. Hemp is much easier to grow, and it grows faster then trees. Plus it won't take away any jobs, because you can put them on a Hemp farm.
Just fucking do this Jesus Christ stop destroying the Environment you bunch o faggots.
I don't see the problem with legalizing drugs. Personally, I have absolutely no intention of doing them myself, but the government has no right to regulate the private life of its citizens so long as they're not infringing on the personal freedom of others.
[QUOTE=AK'z;32842099]My logic for it is that marajuana is mainly to gain a psychedelic experience. Not quite as extreme as LSD, but somewhere along the lines of it.
That experience can make you lose your train of thought in the long run.
I don't use statistics because it's common sense.[/QUOTE]
Oh look, somebody whose never smoked who is attacking it for reasons that are false.
Weed doesn't cause psychedelic effects. If you think weed gives you hallucinations "along the lines of LSD" then you are smoking something waaay more powerful then weed.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32851219]I think your lists are stupid because some of those things on the tobacco list are caused by the act of smoking itself (namely most of the cancers, asthma), so they can be caused by smoking pretty much anything
THC slows down the growth of cancer but if you're pumping burning plant matter through your throat and lungs you're more than counteracting that[/QUOTE]
True, and though smoking is the most popular method of ingesting marijuana it's not the only way
[QUOTE=AK'z;32841505]People can still abuse it, doesn't matter if you do it in moderation, some people might do it all day non-stop.[/QUOTE]
You can abuse anything. Really, I [i]never[/i] see why people use that argument. Abusers are the minority. Plus, abusing cannabis is better than abusing tobacco, alcohol, heroin, etc is it not? Most people have self control. It adds to the driving argument too if cannabis was legal. "Durr people will drive while blazed and die" Well, regardless that I've ridden in cars where the driver is high many times and they weren't even close to crashing, most people have a thing called not wanting to fuck up their cars etc.
[QUOTE=AK'z;32846717]It is a good comment. However, enabling younger people easier access to weed won't go well for the legalisation.[/QUOTE]
When I was 13 I could get weed really easily. Like, one phone call to a friend and a 10 minute walk.
How is it going to be easier than that when it's regulated with age restrictions (like alcohol) and cheaply produced by big businesses that small growers can't compete with?
I'm just glad that salvia's remained legal
[QUOTE=Lol-Nade;32852844]I'm just glad that salvia's remained legal[/QUOTE]
May I ask why it's legal while cannabis is not? I'm legitimately not sure.
[QUOTE=Chicken_Chaser;32852925]May I ask why it's legal while cannabis is not? I'm legitimately not sure.[/QUOTE]
Not as well known.
[QUOTE=Chicken_Chaser;32852925]May I ask why it's legal while cannabis is not? I'm legitimately not sure.[/QUOTE]
because it's not banned yet? Fp needs to realize these things don't just happen overnight
I can see... SO MANY TAXES.
[QUOTE=Neolithic v2;32852967]because it's not banned yet? Fp needs to realize these things don't just happen overnight[/QUOTE]
It's legal because it's not illegal thanks for clarifying.
Alright, I want to get this cleared once and for all.
I prepare for boxes raining because you guys don't know your facts:
Weed [b]is[/b] a drug, regardless of what you say. The word drug is defined as anything that causes a physiological effect when ingested or otherwise introduced into the body. There are differences, though. Stop saying "omg it's jus a hurb!!" because that's not a fair argument.
Marijuana [b]is[/b] a drug. The argument is if it is a harmful drug. The answer to that?
No.
[editline]19th October 2011[/editline]
Let me clarify: The only harm you will get is if you smoke it. Smoking anything is unhealthy as the very hot fumes damage your lungs. Does this mean marijuana is harmful? No.
You can ingest or vaporize marijuana, making it completely safe if you don't jack up the heat on the shit.
[QUOTE=Cypher_09;32850527]Stuff[/QUOTE]
Go read any report on the adverse health impacts of cannabis. [url=http://www.coe.int/t/dg3/pompidou/Source/Activities/Workdrug/drugsSweden2.pdf]Here's a freely available Swedish one.[/url] They all cite the same studies generally.
Here's what this particular one lists as potentially/probably/certainly related to/caused by/effected by cannabis use.
[release]– Development of dependence
– Psychoses:
Toxic psychoses
Cannabis-induced psychosis
Cannabis-induced delirium
Functional psychoses
Schizophrenia
Schizophrenia-like psychoses
– Affective disorders:
Depression
Manic conditions
Suicidal behaviour
– Anxiety disorders
– Depersonalisation syndrome
– Amotivational syndrome
– Impulsively violent behaviour
- Effects on birth weight, birth height, etc. (similar to the effects of tobacco
smoking during pregnancy)
- Increased risk of malformation of the foetus
- Effects on the central nervous system of the foetus
- Other effects on the foetus
- Chronic bronchitis
- [url=http://www.ukcia.org/research/ComparisonOfSmoke.pdf]Cancer of the lungs, bronchi, larynx, oral cavity, pharynx and oesophagus[/url]
- Heart attack
- Stroke
- Transient ischaemic attacks
- Cannabis arteritis
- Reduction of fertility
- Immunological effects
- Testicular cancer[/release]
Most of these aren't well studied so a lot more research is needed. One plus of legalization is that it will become much easier to study and later treat these impacts.
It's still unlikely to be anywhere near as bad as tobacco though.
[QUOTE=The First 11'er;32853813]Alright, I want to get this cleared once and for all.
I prepare for boxes raining because you guys don't know your facts:
Weed [b]is[/b] a drug, regardless of what you say. The word drug is defined as anything that causes a physiological effect when ingested or otherwise introduced into the body. There are differences, though. Stop saying "omg it's jus a hurb!!" because that's not a fair argument.
Marijuana [b]is[/b] a drug. The argument is if it is a harmful drug. The answer to that?
No.
[editline]19th October 2011[/editline]
Let me clarify: The only harm you will get is if you smoke it. Smoking anything is unhealthy as the very hot fumes damage your lungs. Does this mean marijuana is harmful? No.
You can ingest or vaporize marijuana, making it completely safe if you don't jack up the heat on the shit.[/QUOTE]
Most people on here do recognise its a drug.
I laughed at 18 to 29.
Anyways, I didn't expect this to be honest.
Well, I do live in Florida, we are one large retirement home.
So, it took 40 years for 50% of America to agree that pot should be legal. So, since most Senators are in their 60s and 70s and all of them agree pot should remain illegal, we've probably got another 40 years before they are finally replaced by people that think like current Americans do.
Interesting that men significantly want it legal more than women.
Other than that, no surprise with what the data look like.
[QUOTE=Chicken_Chaser;32852925]May I ask why it's legal while cannabis is not? I'm legitimately not sure.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, like the others said salvia is pretty new to the drug scene. So new, that you can normally purchase it in convenience stores. I guess the reason it's not so big of a concern is most trips last about 30 mins tops, and you're pretty immobile during it
[QUOTE=Fables;32840325]And he'll probably be in office for another four at this rate.[/QUOTE]
still better than the republicans.
[QUOTE=Doozle;32856580][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUqX07JX_3c[/media][/QUOTE]
That was awesome
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[QUOTE=DSG;32855717]Interesting that men significantly want it legal more than women. [/QUOTE]
Probably mothers who are worried about their offspring
one time i did teh marijuanaz and wrote a whole page essay for my language arts class. A'ced it
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32840583]Better than Herman Cain or Mitt Romney.[/QUOTE]
Not really. Mitt Romney would be a thousand times better.
[QUOTE=Neolithic v2;32846414]medicine=/=drugs[/QUOTE]
Wow
Please back this up, I'm sure you have something astonishingly revolutionary and ingenious to say.
No, really, please, back it up. If you don't, I will think about giving you a titer linking that post that says "medicine=/=drugs".
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[QUOTE=Neolithic v2;32847364]and what about the gateway issue?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Neolithic v2;32847946]i would imagine, but both have psychadelic effects
[editline]18th October 2011[/editline]
also the gateway issue is real, try actually going to school. BUT I can agree upon that mostly being the case only when the drug is illegal[/QUOTE]
DARE is outrageous propaganda that as marijuana will ruin your family life and you will be addicted and a loser and die. Don't trust them, they make silly claims backed up by zero evidence.
Furthermore, Gateway is only an issue with people with overly curious and careless personalities. You aren't going to turn to meth just because weed got 'boring' unless you are a hardcore druggie to boot. with a wreckless personality and no self esteem.
Even if you do a very small amount of any drug however, you won't become this terrible person. Crack and meth doesn't ruin your life in small amounts, abusing the fuck out of it weekly does.
[QUOTE=Neolithic v2;32852967]because it's not banned yet? Fp needs to realize these things don't just happen overnight[/QUOTE]
Wow really.
I'm entertained by your amazing ability to point out the blind fucking obvious.
Thank you for your marvelously keen brain. I'm sure your mother is very proud of you.
[QUOTE=AK'z;32842099]My logic for it is that marajuana is mainly to gainn'tpsychedelic experience. Not quite as extreme as LSD, but somewhere along the lines of it.
That experience can make you lose your train of thought in the long run.
I don't use statistics because it's common sense.[/QUOTE]
In my experience being high just makes you act funny, once your sober, your fine. It doesn't make you lose your train of thought 'in the long run'.
[QUOTE=Doozle;32856580]MUSIC[/QUOTE]
Smooth.
[QUOTE=The First 11'er;32853813]I prepare for boxes raining because you guys don't know your facts:
Weed [b]is[/b] a drug, regardless of what you say.[/QUOTE]
Whose saying it isn't a drug? Your crazy man!
The gateway drug argument will dissipate once you legalize weed because then you won't have to contact shady dealers and possibly be 'pushed' into using harder drugs.
Either way, taking one drug isn't going to make your mind craving for harder shit unless your personality is fixed on it
[QUOTE=Mooe94;32858626]The gateway drug argument will dissipate once you legalize weed because then you won't have to contact shady dealers and possibly be 'pushed' into using harder drugs.
Either way, taking one drug isn't going to make your mind craving for harder shit unless your personality is fixed on it[/QUOTE]
WOW THIS WEED STUFF IS REALLY GREAT IM GOING TO MOVE ON TO SNORTING LINES OF COKE
I've never, not even in my dreams, have ever seen anything even subtly close to that, and if I did, the person doing it had serious personal life issues to begin with so whether or not weed started it is irrelevant, it was inevitable to boot. The Gateway argument is extremely weak and fragile.
The one main reason I don't do weed is because its illegal. Not because I'm a pussy, thats only half the issue (Or 75%... ok... 99% I'm a pussy). The thing is, I don't want to deal with sketch balls and acting all secretive, trying to hide it. Thats fucking dumb.
[QUOTE=J!NX;32858667]WOW THIS WEED STUFF IS REALLY GREAT IM GOING TO MOVE ON TO SNORTING LINES OF COKE
I've never, not even in my dreams, have ever seen anything even subtly close to that, and if I did, the person doing it had serious personal life issues to begin with so whether or not weed started it is irrelevant, it was inevitable to boot. The Gateway argument is extremely weak and fragile.[/QUOTE]
Not sure if you were agreeing with me or not but yeah, haven't seen that shit either. But I think it is possible to be pressured into doing harder drugs
[QUOTE=Mooe94;32858690]Not sure if you were agreeing with me or not but yeah, haven't seen that shit either. But I think it is possible to be pressured into doing harder drugs[/QUOTE]
"Either way, taking one drug isn't going to make your mind craving for harder shit unless your personality is fixed on it"
Me: "WOW THIS WEED STUFF IS REALLY GREAT IM GOING TO MOVE ON TO SNORTING LINES OF COKE"
Exaggerated, toony example that never happens ever because it just doesn't happen. People imagine "Gateway" as that a lot of the time in my experience. You can be pressured, but thats persona based. Your either weak willed, or wreckless, and most people that do that are either.
That whole gateway thing isn't because of drugs itself, basically. It's true, but saying "If you try weed you'll try crack" is insane, thats user-based. So yeah, I agree. (Unless I'm somehow misreading/misprinting, I apologize, I'm half-retarded half-the-time)
[QUOTE=J!NX;32858716]I apologize, I'm half-retarded half-the-time[/QUOTE]
So you're generally 25% retarded? :v:
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