South Africa votes to seize land from white farmers without compensation

[GordonZombie]

[QUOTE=Ericson666;53181073]Move into and colonize a foreign land, ban the natives from owning land and buy it all up, then cry foul when apartheid is thrown out and people are questioning why the 8% of South African who are white own 72% of individually owned farmland. Surely you see the issue here?[/QUOTE]

I agree that what happened in the past was disgusting, but how is making an attempt to reverse what was done potentially generations after the land was seized without at least accounting for those affected making it right? What's the point of the affected parties (white agricultural class) giving a damn about the rule oflaw and government if they're going to be subjected to such arbitrary measures? This is how you polarise people and stir up tensions.

[President Buer]

[QUOTE=Trilby Harlow;53183061]"...therefore oppressing people and stealing their property based on their race/group is acceptable."

Go read up on the liquidation of the Kulaks to see how this story ends.[/QUOTE]

No, you see the [checks notes] militant, ethno-nationalist communists will make sure it is done properly.

[Crumpets]

[QUOTE=LuaChobo;53182553]when you ask people about their views on nazi gold and compare it to this, thats less of a "moderate approach" and more of a "gotcha" moment

apartheid ending 27 years ago isnt valid when you are implying that due to apartheid that future races need to be actively repressed and put down as some form of payback

seems like acceptance/agreement, stop pretending that people arent hush hush agreeing with it[/QUOTE]

It's all right here dude lol

[QUOTE=Ericson666;53181096]
[B]I don't know what the correct solution is here[/B], but the fact that there was such a systemic approach to stripping the native African population of their land as recently as a few decades ago warrants reparations, and [B]the government shrugging their shoulders and saying it's too late to do anything isn't justice at all[/B][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ericson666;53181161]Again, [B]I'm not saying to march in with rifles and kick everyone out,[/B] but some form of reform beyond the world collectively shrugging its shoulders and saying "well too late to do anything now" is necessary. [B]At the very least, you have to recognize that the current state of land ownership systematically disadvantages black people and supports white people who gained the land.[/B][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hafring;53181295]Not disagreeing with that, [B]I think pretty much everyone agrees that this is an astonishingly stupid idea.[/B][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;53181311][B]Taking of farms and evicting of innocent people is wrong, no questions there imo, hell it's almost soviet tier bs[/B], but LuaChobo was criticising reparations in general.

Pretty much as a rule: the rich get richer and the poor stay poor - generations later people are still suffering from historic wrongdoings.

Addendum to this : [B]don't pick people out individually[/B] just have progressive tax on all rich peeps[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;53181559][B]You're totally right it will make the situation worse. [/B]Fear for those families coz this sorta thing smells of mob mentality.[B] If only they explored more moderate alternatives.[/B][/QUOTE]

Yeah maybe mdeceiver made [I]one[/I] innapropriate gotcha. Most of your posts on the last page were sick zingers that completely skipped over fine posts. You still engaged with 0 of the relevant points made about the currently unfair state of the country and the suggestion that something, not this, be done.

[swebonny]

[QUOTE=orcywoo6;53180999]Yet the world will stand by and do nothing because as whites, we are supposed to deserve it.[/QUOTE]

The world is standing by on much serious and public atrocities like the war in Yemen or the Rohingya persecutions in Burma. Race has absolutely zero meaning in the bigger picture. The only thing that matters is if you're relevant to the world, if not it will gladly stand by and watch.

[Deathtrooper]

Humans once again decide to persecute their own kind based on their skin color...

Can the aliens please show up? Not even joking at this point. Humanity will continue to divide itself based on this bullshit and nothing will stop it.