• Lesbian couple denied schooling for their child
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This kind-of thing makes me really sick. I can't stand homophobia.
Even if you don't like gay people, why would you victimise a child? Surely children should come first regardless of whatever dopey political hang ups you have? These people should not be educators.
the female's job is to stay home and make ashes nice pancakes.
[QUOTE=Superwafflez;24262207]I never said that guys, just from homosexual couples. You can't just have kids going to school and telling people 'I have two mommies', they just wont cope with the shit they will cop. [/QUOTE] So you are just a homophobe, you don't give two shits about a "mommy and daddy figure" being present, as long as dem gheys don't get kids. You said a mom and a dad figure was a requirement, so naturally a kid with only one parent should be taken away, as the single parent can't possibly do the job. Or is it just the realization that your argument breaks down when you put some actual thought into it? [quote]It's putting an unnecessary burden on a child, and that is wrong.[/quote] It's incredible how often the "oh won't someone please think of the children" people get riled up, they don't realize that the children are doing just fine. No, they're not burdening children, there is no evidence to this.
I don't even know what to say to this. There's so much bullshit going on in the world and homosexuality is what keeps people up at night worrying. I cannot fathom the reasoning.
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[QUOTE=Superwafflez;24262207]I never said that guys, just from homosexual couples. You can't just have kids going to school and telling people 'I have two mommies', they just wont cope with the shit they will cop. [editline]11:41PM[/editline] It's putting an unnecessary burden on a child, and that is wrong.[/QUOTE] Because other people are discriminatory asshats, potentially good parents who can help an orphan are disallowed from adopting. Makes perfect sense, seriously did you not catch the obvious satire in this post? [QUOTE]This is why gays shouldn't be allowed to have children.[/QUOTE][editline]09:54AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Superwafflez;24262385]On Facepunch you are not entitled to an opinion.[/QUOTE] You can have your opinion no one can change that, but we can have an opinion on you too.
[QUOTE=GodKing;24262346]I don't even know what to say to this. There's so much bullshit going on in the world and homosexuality is what keeps people up at night worrying. I cannot fathom the reasoning.[/QUOTE] That's because when you have an angry public, it become a lot easier to get them hating each other rather than the people who are actually causing the problems in this world. It's a distraction technique, and it works well, sadly. Look at the right hand so you don't see the left hand picking your wallet. [QUOTE=Superwafflez;24262385]On Facepunch you are not entitled to an opinion.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry intelligent debate makes you feel inadequate, you can always go comment on a Fox News article if all you want is other bigots agreeing with you all day.
[QUOTE=Superwafflez;24262042]Homosexual couples shouldn't have children, as they need both a father and a mother figure to get a balanced upbringing. Sorry but that's my stance on it, i'm all fine for gay marriage however.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry, but pretty much all the scientific research I've seen says the exact opposite. Can you give me some evidence that disagrees or are you just basing your opinion on nothing because you're a closet homophobe?
[QUOTE=Superwafflez;24262207]I never said that guys, just from homosexual couples. You can't just have kids going to school and telling people 'I have two mommies', they just wont cope with the shit they will cop. [editline]11:41PM[/editline] It's putting an unnecessary burden on a child, and that is wrong.[/QUOTE] "You can't just have kids going to school and telling people 'My dad works as a garbage man', they just wont cope with the shit they will cop." I do agree that children will indeed suffer from bullying if people on their school will find out his parents are both male/female - but that is not enough to disallow them from raising children. INSTEAD, the government should teach (through the education system, that is) that all people, with all sexual orientations are just people - and they shouldn't be hated for their orientation.
[QUOTE=Billiam;24262455]I'm sorry, but pretty much all the scientific research I've seen says the exact opposite. Can you give me some evidence that disagrees or are you just basing your opinion on nothing because you're a closet homophobe?[/QUOTE] As I said, I am fine with gay marriage - no homophobia, stop pinning shit on me. And get me scientific research journal proof right now that it is not detrimental - if you have the research you claim.
[QUOTE=FuckingHellshit;24260833]I for one agree that the schoo[/QUOTE] kill yourself
A bit off topic but I hope the kid's parents are open-minded enough to let their kid be whatever orientation she wants.
[QUOTE=Superwafflez;24262501]As I said, I am fine with gay marriage - no homophobia, stop pinning shit on me. And get me scientific research journal proof right now that it is not detrimental - if you have the research you claim.[/QUOTE] Then what's wrong with two people of the same sex raising children? You said that a children should have a "balanced mother and father figures" - but if you wanna be consisted with that claim, you may say that single-parent families should not be allowed to raise children. [QUOTE=UberMensch;24262527]A bit off topic but I hope the kid's parents are open-minded enough to let their kid be whatever orientation she wants.[/QUOTE] I find it hard to believe they aren't.
[QUOTE=Superwafflez;24262501]As I said, I am fine with gay marriage - no homophobia, stop pinning shit on me.[/QUOTE] Would you rather be called a homophobe or an idiot who bases his opinion on important social/legal issues on thin air? [QUOTE=Superwafflez;24262501]And get me scientific research journal proof right now that it is not detrimental - if you have the research you claim.[/QUOTE] [url]http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/109/2/341?ijkey=b1beef18024613f41c617647b45f579b75245f5e[/url]
ok I may disagree with gays and lesbians, but I still fully respect them for who they are. But if you're gonna go to Texas and you're gay, thats like a black guy walking down the street with a shirt saying "black power" or something. You're gonna get persecuted in Texas, it's the most notorious, I think these people is trolling and want attention. [QUOTE=Billiam;24261489]This is why gays shouldn't be allowed to have children. [/QUOTE] Yeah, they are kind of setting up their kids [QUOTE=ohadje;24260814]Disgusting. May all Homophones will just disappear from this planet.[/QUOTE] Lol, [QUOTE=CubeManv2;24260997]So of course Christians hate gay's so they will decline. [/QUOTE] Hate is a bit of a strong word, what I hate (as a Christian) is that when Christians oppose something in large numbers, it becomes hate. Do the people of U.S. [B]hate[/B] generalized healthcare? (and generalized turns into communism which I find hilarious) I do not think that most Christians are burning gays and lesbians at the stake, but a lot definitely oppose them. But thank goodness we don't live in the Old Testament days where Jews would stone the gays. Not nice. Thankfully I live in Canada where this crazy shit doesn't happen. P.S. I'm not trying to get a reaction, this is just my opinion, *Prepares for many angry replies*
[quote]The small and nonrepresentative samples studied and the relatively young age of most of the children suggest some reserve. [/quote] Great study. :suicide:
[quote]Do the people of U.S. hate generalized healthcare? (and generalized turns into communism which I find hilarious)[/quote] That's a pretty bad comparison. Disliking a group of people is much more similar to hatred than disliking an idea. [quote]But thank goodness we don't live in the Old Testament days where Jews would stone the gays. Not nice. [/quote] So Christianity rejects the notion that Homosexuals should be killed? That notion was presented by [b]God[/b].
[QUOTE=Superwafflez;24262385]On Facepunch you are not entitled to an opinion.[/QUOTE] You are entitled to an opinion but you were stating your opinion as fact your opinion isn't based on fact this means your opinion is dumb multiple studies show children of same sex couples do as well as any other children in life you can even google it
[QUOTE=Superwafflez;24262501]As I said, I am fine with gay marriage - no homophobia, stop pinning shit on me. And get me scientific research journal proof right now that it is not detrimental - if you have the research you claim.[/QUOTE] You can call it whatever you want, saying you'd allow gays to marry but not adopt children is still homophobic. That's no better than when people said "You know I don't mind blacks having the right to marry, but giving them the right to marry white women? No fucking way!" and that mentality is why interracial marriage didn't become legal until 1967. What if they had artificial insemination? What if the couple are just in foster care? What if they're adopting a dead relative's child?
[QUOTE=Omali;24262701]You can call it whatever you want, saying you'd allow gays to marry but not adopt children is still homophobic. That's no better than when people said "You know I don't mind blacks having the right to marry, but giving them the right to marry white women? No fucking way!" and that mentality is why interracial marriage didn't become legal until 1967. What if they had artificial insemination? What if the couple are just in foster care? What if they're adopting a dead relative's child?[/QUOTE] Oh, you reminded me: If we were in the 50s, you might as well argue that Black children should not be allowed to go to white schools, because they'll be hated there.
[QUOTE=Superwafflez;24262634]Great study. :suicide:[/QUOTE] It's one study of many, it's a bitch getting studies because my subscription to my favorite normal scientific studies is inactive during summer vacation. You're still dumb for basing your opinion on thin air. [editline]10:12AM[/editline] [QUOTE=ohadje;24262722]If we were in the 50s, you might as well argue that Black children should not be allowed to go to white schools, because they'll be hated there.[/QUOTE] I was gonna' make that example, but I feel it's overused.
[QUOTE=Omali;24262701]You can call it whatever you want, saying you'd allow gays to marry but not adopt children is still homophobic. That's no better than when people said "You know I don't mind blacks having the right to marry, but giving them the right to marry white women? No fucking way!" and that mentality is why interracial marriage didn't become legal until 1967. What if they had artificial insemination? What if the couple are just in foster care? What if they're adopting a dead relative's child?[/QUOTE] It's still teaching the children that homosexuality is a normal thing in society. We are all born with the capability to reproduce in a heterosexual way, and that's the way our society grows and flourishes. Homosexuality deviates from the instinct to reproduce, and is widely considered a mental disorder. Flame away at my opinion, but it's based in the core of humanity. :smug: Boxes incoming from the politically correct.
[QUOTE=Superwafflez;24262042]Homosexual couples shouldn't have children, as they need both a father and a mother figure to get a balanced upbringing. Sorry but that's my stance on it, i'm all fine for gay marriage however.[/QUOTE] in my cases I've heard of the kid actually was more succesful and better in school then opposite sex parents.
[QUOTE=Superwafflez;24262787]It's still teaching the children that homosexuality is a normal thing in society. We are all born with the capability to reproduce in a heterosexual way, and that's the way our society grows and flourishes. Homosexuality deviates from the instinct to reproduce, and is widely considered a mental disorder.[/quote] Homosexuality is a normal thing in society, that's the point, that gays shouldn't be treated like freaks. Homosexuality hasn't been considered a mental disorder since the 1970s, unless you count by rednecks and neo-cons. [quote]Flame away at my opinion, but it's based in the core of humanity. :smug: Boxes incoming from the politically correct.[/QUOTE] No, your opinion is based out of ignorance and bigotry, thinly justified off of some sort of "core of humanity." If you had any shred of humanity, you wouldn't be arguing against kids being put in loving homes because there are two mommies or daddies.
[QUOTE=Superwafflez;24262787]It's still teaching the children that homosexuality is a normal thing in society. We are all born with the capability to reproduce in a heterosexual way, and that's the way our society grows and flourishes. Homosexuality deviates from the instinct to reproduce, and is widely considered a mental disorder.[/QUOTE] Yep, I was right. You are a homophobe. [QUOTE=Superwafflez;24262787]Flame away at my opinion, but it's based in the core of humanity. :smug:[/QUOTE] Who gives a shit if it's the core of humanity, it's human tendency to settle conflict with violence are you saying that war is alright because it's common? Homosexuality isn't harmful to the species as a whole or to any individual and equal rights are essential to most Western Countries. Flame away at my opinion, but it's based in the core of civilized society. :smug: [QUOTE=Superwafflez;24262787]Boxes incoming from the politically correct.[/QUOTE] Where did this thing where you call someone politically correct as a form of an insult come from? Seriously, you're using that term incorrectly and just proving that you don't know what you're talking about.
[QUOTE=Superwafflez;24262207]I never said that guys, just from homosexual couples. You can't just have kids going to school and telling people 'I have two mommies', they just wont cope with the shit they will cop. [editline]11:41PM[/editline] It's putting an unnecessary burden on a child, and that is wrong.[/QUOTE] I had two lesbians as parents, and it wasn't any sort of a burden on me. I didn't even understand until I was older that my family was different from anyone elses and I turned out perfectly fine. It's also better having gay parents becuase I find that you can be more open with them and they understand you more.
[quote]It's still teaching the children that homosexuality is a normal thing in society. We are all born with the capability to reproduce in a heterosexual way, and that's the way our society grows and flourishes. Homosexuality deviates from the instinct to reproduce, and is widely considered a mental disorder.[/quote] Homosexuality, Bisexuality and all other sexual orientations are 100% normal and natural, and should be taught as such. They exist in the nature and that alone proves that it is natural and not some "Human disorder". I really don't understand the argument that we are "meant" to do something, and therefore it is the "correct" thing. Most people do sex for fun, not for reproducing, and Homosexuals are included. Sex done for pleasure is natural (I'm sure you'll agree), and animals (such as Dolphins) have sex solely for pleasure as well. You may, as well, argue that the nose exists for "smelling" and not for sniffing drugs - and therefore it's unnatural to do that, or some shit. Same goes for oral and anal sex. I'm pretty sure that you could argue the anus and the mouth are not "supposed" to be used for sexual activities. [QUOTE] but it's based in the core of humanity.[/quote] Populism much...
Only in Texas... oh wait thats all the US. Thats why I'm moving to the UK again as soon as I get the chance after college.
[QUOTE=Billiam;24262897]Yep, I was right. You are a homophobe. Who gives a shit if it's the core of humanity, it's human tendency to settle conflict with violence are you saying that war is alright because it's common?[/quote] Here you go pinning the homophobia badge on me again. I'm fine with it, I just don't agree that it's the normal thing for a human being to do. Point two, you do realise other species have huge conflicts as well? Take ants for example. Is it okay that they kill each other in their millions? Or are they of lesser value because they are of another species? [QUOTE=Billiam;24262897] Where did this thing where you call someone politically correct as a form of an insult come from? Seriously, you're using that term incorrectly and just proving that you don't know what you're talking about.[/QUOTE] Since I am saying homosexuality is not normal, you are all calling me a bigot and redneck. These days you cannot say anything mildly controversial without someone coming along and shoving the opposing opinion down your throat.
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