David Cameron refuses to withdraw Trump remarks, won't meet with him - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;50261719]At least she's not as insane, she's just corrupt and shit. Tories are fine with stuff like corruption, and open adultery is acceptable in the tories (although buggery isn't). I'm on official service, I'm meeting with the Finnish president to discuss his terms of surrender to Britain.[/QUOTE] Demand all of their vodka.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;50261570]Probably not well since if America is stupid enough to elect Trump then it can't be trusted with anything anymore like having military bases in Europe, nuclear bombs, or the like. I wouldn't even trust the Americans enough to run their own country if they decide the best person to represent it is a stupid loudmouthed twat.[/QUOTE] i don't appreciate the blanket insults you are hurling at my country, especially since they're all unfounded.

[QUOTE=mr kjerr;50266877]i don't appreciate the blanket insults you are hurling at my country, especially since they're all unfounded.[/QUOTE] Hey, try to go more than a day without getting banned again alright there big guy. Your bait is way too blatant.

[QUOTE=mr kjerr;50266877]i don't appreciate the blanket insults you are hurling at my country, especially since they're all unfounded.[/QUOTE] Well I think that when a small bird which quacks and walks like a duck starts talking like a duck, one ought to call it something more accurate than an elephant. America is a very nice country with quite a lot of nice people who have a long and proud tradition of adhering to the values of political and social liberty often in spite of the difficulties of obtaining both. It has served as the workshop of the world and the greatest innovator of the modern age - responsible for many of the worlds inventions and discoveries. But Donald Trump is absolutely and without question a stupid loudmouthed twat. This is not a position I'm willing to retract because he is a stupid loudmouthed twat that embarrasses people by proxy. Practically most of the politicians in other countries around the world are snickering at the thought of Trump being president. Nearly everybody at my home, work, and friends seem to regard Trump as a complete tosser. We all genuinely believe that if America decides that the best man to represent them is a populist demagogue with insane ideas, then we will outright bluntly state that America is a country full of idiotic voters who can't be trusted to run a hamburger stand, let alone a nation of 320 million . So David Cameron insults Donald Trump? So fucking what? Trump outright lied about Britain and not only do we find that insulting we find it distressing that the Americans would willingly elect somebody who talks complete shit about things he knows nothing about. Half of his platform is literally lying about other people and countries. He bullshits his way through everything and when pinned down he collapses like a lepers chest. I'm going to insult Trump and his supporters and the people who will vote for him and follow the example of my Prime Minister. He's not the best PM around, but in this instance I agree with him, especially due to the fact he's not retracting his (true) statements. It shows he's got a spine and stood up for something at least once in his life - something that Trump has never once did and never will.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;50266957]Well I think that when a small bird which quacks and walks like a duck starts talking like a duck, one ought to call it something more accurate than an elephant. America is a very nice country with quite a lot of nice people who have a long and proud tradition of adhering to the values of political and social liberty often in spite of the difficulties of obtaining both. It has served as the workshop of the world and the greatest innovator of the modern age - responsible for many of the worlds inventions and discoveries. But Donald Trump is absolutely and without question a stupid loudmouthed twat. This is not a position I'm willing to retract because he is a stupid loudmouthed twat that embarrasses people by proxy. Practically most of the politicians in other countries around the world are snickering at the thought of Trump being president. Nearly everybody at my home, work, and friends seem to regard Trump as a complete tosser. We all genuinely believe that if America decides that the best man to represent them is a populist demagogue with insane ideas, then we will outright bluntly state that America is a country full of idiotic voters who can't be trusted to run a hamburger stand, let alone a nation of 320 million . So David Cameron insults Donald Trump? So fucking what? Trump outright lied about Britain and not only do we find that insulting we find it distressing that the Americans would willingly elect somebody who talks complete shit about things he knows nothing about. Half of his platform is literally lying about other people and countries. He bullshits his way through everything and when pinned down he collapses like a lepers chest. I'm going to insult Trump and his supporters and the people who will vote for him and follow the example of my Prime Minister. He's not the best PM around, but in this instance I agree with him, especially due to the fact he's not retracting his (true) statements. It shows he's got a spine and stood up for something at least once in his life - something that Trump has never once did and never will.[/QUOTE] Congratulations. You just typed all that for a bait comment. You could have painted, or wrote poetry, or jerked your dick till it was beat red. But instead you replied to obvious bait with 5 small paragraphs.

[QUOTE=Richoxen;50266970]Congratulations. You just typed all that for a bait comment. You could have painted, or wrote poetry, or jerked your dick till it was beat red. But instead you replied to obvious bait with 5 small paragraphs.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure the point of a forum is that other people read it as well. It's rhetorical, it's meant to persuade or cause other posters (or lurkers) to think about the matter. Besides I just fucked a girl for like an hour or something and I need something else to do now.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;50266988]Besides I just fucked a girl for like an hour or something and I need something else to do now.[/QUOTE] :goodjob: Holy shit my sides :v:

[QUOTE=abcpea;50261711]mexicans have all the gold[/QUOTE] no one pays anything any more you want to buy beer a wall or food or a car don't worry the Mexicans will pay for it

You gotta learn to fuck em WHILE posting on FP man

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;50266988]I'm pretty sure the point of a forum is that other people read it as well. It's rhetorical, it's meant to persuade or cause other posters (or lurkers) to think about the matter. (IFUCKEDAGIRLGUYS)[/QUOTE] No Trump supporters are going to be convinced by a European person saying that Americans are idiots for voting for someone who supports their values, that is just insulting. Saying[quote] "America is a country full of idiotic voters who can't be trusted to run a hamburger stand, let alone a nation of 320 million ."[/quote] is incredibly disrespectful considering that people in whatever country you live in aren't any smarter, they were just born in a different place and therefore hold different beliefs. You don't support a politician and hear bad things about him, and so you think that anyone voting for him must be an idiot. (what) These people are voting for someone who they believe will benefit their lives, which I don't think is stupid at all. Insulting Americans about their beliefs and who they are voting for is only going to create more Trump supporters, especially since half the country isn't even going to be voting for Trump. That said I can respect David Cameron for at least sticking to what he said rather than making an apology due to being pressured. Also respect for this: [quote] But he has repeatedly declined further invitations to comment on Trump’s chances, saying the election is a matter for the American people.[/quote]

I think voting for a candidate who has said he'll build a wall to keep Mexicans out, that'll cost tens of billions of dollars, while getting the Mexicans to pay for it, is pretty stupid.

[QUOTE=CMB Unit 01;50267444]I think voting for a candidate who has said he'll build a wall to keep Mexicans out, that'll cost tens of billions of dollars, while getting the Mexicans to pay for it, is pretty stupid.[/QUOTE] If I had millions of illegal immigrants in my country I would vote for a person who wants a more secure border too and would want those people sent back to their home country, I don't see anything stupid about it.

[QUOTE=igamiwarr;50267466]If I had millions of illegal immigrants in my country I would vote for a person who wants a more secure border too and would want those people sent back to their home country, I don't see anything stupid about it.[/QUOTE] Well, the net gain of illegal immigrants over several years is damn near 0 and those illegal immigrants typically pay more in taxes than the citizens do, as well as doing the jobs that I guarantee you wouldn't want to do but are necessary to be done. Maybe perhaps if the naturalization system wasn't so backwards it wouldn't be as much of a problem? Maybe the solution isn't banning muslims from entering the country completely, but to instead reform the issues people have with immigrants? Them taking our jobs is one of the most petty excuses -- I'd like to see those people work in sweltering heat for hours on end. The immigrants are typically paid less than minimum wage as well which means they take even less from the economy than the immigrants end up putting back in.

[QUOTE=igamiwarr;50267416]No Trump supporters are going to be convinced by a European person saying that Americans are idiots for voting for someone who supports their values, that is just insulting. Saying is incredibly disrespectful considering that people in whatever country you live in aren't any smarter, they were just born in a different place and therefore hold different beliefs. You don't support a politician and hear bad things about him, and so you think that anyone voting for him must be an idiot. (what) These people are voting for someone who they believe will benefit their lives, which I don't think is stupid at all. Insulting Americans about their beliefs and who they are voting for is only going to create more Trump supporters, especially since half the country isn't even going to be voting for Trump. That said I can respect David Cameron for at least sticking to what he said rather than making an apology due to being pressured. Also respect for this:[/QUOTE] If calling trump an idiot creates more trump supporters, those trump voters aren't voting for his beliefs but simply to spite someone else. That's also idiotic.

[QUOTE=igamiwarr;50267416]Saying is incredibly disrespectful considering that people in whatever country you live in aren't any smarter, they were just born in a different place and therefore hold different beliefs. [/quote] I couldn't give even a halfpenny jizz if somebody says it's incredibly disrespectful to say that. It's disrespectful to call Stalin a murderous fathead drunkard. It's disrespectful to call Hitler an oily tick who did bad Charlie Chaplin impersonations, or to say that Kim Jong Un is a fat git. I will call Trump exactly what he is, which is that he's an idiot and a populist demagogue who mainly wishes to introduce the bold new policies of "Building a 13,000km long slab of concrete", "Reducing the deficit by bullying a neighbour into giving us money", "Ruining relations with multiple foreign nations" and "Bankrupting US industry and commerce". Now unlike many other countries which do not have the privilege to possess a functioning democratic government (such as Russia, North Korea, or my local council), the United States has a process whereby millions of people are responsible for selecting the next slime extruder to represent their nation. I don't care if it's disrespectful at all. I am going to say that if Donald Trump is elected president by a majority of voters then there I will insult those who voted for him as much as I damn well please because they are complete tossers and deserve to be known as such. [quote]You don't support a politician and hear bad things about him[/quote] what do you mean hear if you want to produce an attack ad for trump you literally just have to post a video of one of his speeches i think trump is bad because i watched him say bad things in his speeches. [quote]and so you think that anyone voting for him must be an idiot. (what) These people are voting for someone who they believe will benefit their lives, which I don't think is stupid at all. Insulting Americans about their beliefs and who they are voting for is only going to create more Trump supporters, especially since half the country isn't even going to be voting for Trump.[/QUOTE] I could vote for Lord Dipshit of the mad hat-fuckers party, whose policies include compulsory asparagus at breakfast and reintroducing whipping for women who wear short skirts in public in addition to legalizing stoning of homosexuals. I could think that he and his policies will benefit my life and those of others, but they would make things worse because of the fact they are terrible policies.

Who should we vote for Sobotnik, if not the man who would Make America Great Again?

[QUOTE=Raidyr;50271300]Who should we vote for Sobotnik, if not the man who would Make America Great Again?[/QUOTE] Vote for Sobotnik, he'll Make Asparagus Great Again.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;50271158]I could vote for Lord Dipshit of the mad hat-fuckers party, whose policies include compulsory asparagus at breakfast and reintroducing whipping for women who wear short skirts in public in addition to legalizing stoning of homosexuals. I could think that he and his policies will benefit my life and those of others, but they would make things worse because of the fact they are terrible policies. [/QUOTE] You could vote for the asparagus party and if the majority of people wanted that party then it is what it is. That is the democratic process, and it doesn't make people idiots. Not sure why it is okay to talk about Americans like this, when it is completely unacceptable and intolerant to talk people from other nations in this way. Just from the points you made it is pretty clear that you are completely incapable and hostile towards ideas that conflict with your own. You aren't ever going to convince anyone of anything by acting in this way, you are only going to get support from people who already share your views, which makes what you said here: [quote]it's rhetorical, it's meant to persuade or cause other posters (or lurkers) to think about the matter. [/quote] completely untrue, unless they think in the way you do they are just going to think you are acting like a dickhead and dismiss everything you have said.

[QUOTE=igamiwarr;50271490]You could vote for the asparagus party and if the majority of people wanted that party then it is what it is. That is the democratic process, and it doesn't make people idiots. Not sure why it is okay to talk about Americans like this, when it is completely unacceptable and intolerant to talk people from other nations in this way. Just from the points you made it is pretty clear that you are completely incapable and hostile towards ideas that conflict with your own. You aren't ever going to convince anyone of anything by acting in this way, you are only going to get support from people who already share your views, which makes what you said here: completely untrue, unless they think in the way you do they are just going to think you are acting like a dickhead and dismiss everything you have said.[/QUOTE] I dunno I think he makes a compelling argument, and I'm an American.

[QUOTE=igamiwarr;50271490]You could vote for the asparagus party and if the majority of people wanted that party then it is what it is. That is the democratic process, and it doesn't make people idiots. [/QUOTE] It being democratic doesn't contradict it being idiotic.

[QUOTE=igamiwarr;50271490]You could vote for the asparagus party and if the majority of people wanted that party then it is what it is. That is the democratic process, and it doesn't make people idiots. Not sure why it is okay to talk about Americans like this, when it is completely unacceptable and intolerant to talk people from other nations in this way. Just from the points you made it is pretty clear that you are completely incapable and hostile towards ideas that conflict with your own. You aren't ever going to convince anyone of anything by acting in this way, you are only going to get support from people who already share your views, which makes what you said here: completely untrue, unless they think in the way you do they are just going to think you are acting like a dickhead and dismiss everything you have said.[/QUOTE] Feel free to call Danes idiots, but it kinda rings hollow when you're the ones trying to elect a baboon to the most powerful political office in the world. Democracy never told people not to be dumb as bricks.

[QUOTE=igamiwarr;50271490] Not sure why it is okay to talk about Americans like this, when it is completely unacceptable and intolerant to talk people from other nations in this way.[/QUOTE] This is a ridiculous premise and people need to stop using it as an argument. I don't think anyone's getting offended at calling out Mainland Chinese tourists for acting like fuckwits.

[QUOTE=igamiwarr;50271490]You could vote for the asparagus party and if the majority of people wanted that party then it is what it is. That is the democratic process, and it doesn't make people idiots. Not sure why it is okay to talk about Americans like this, when it is completely unacceptable and intolerant to talk people from other nations in this way. Just from the points you made it is pretty clear that you are completely incapable and hostile towards ideas that conflict with your own. You aren't ever going to convince anyone of anything by acting in this way, you are only going to get support from people who already share your views, which makes what you said here: completely untrue, unless they think in the way you do they are just going to think you are acting like a dickhead and dismiss everything you have said.[/QUOTE] No you couldn't, because the "asparagus party" doesn't have the billions of dollars it'd need, it doesn't have a significant grip on the government and the media, NOR will it ever! It is NOT a democratic process anymore, nor is the general election a direct democratic process because the result is chosen by representatives that can go counter popular vote.

[QUOTE=igamiwarr;50271490]You could vote for the asparagus party and if the majority of people wanted that party then it is what it is. That is the democratic process, and it doesn't make people idiots. Not sure why it is okay to talk about Americans like this, when it is completely unacceptable and intolerant to talk people from other nations in this way. Just from the points you made it is pretty clear that you are completely incapable and hostile towards ideas that conflict with your own. You aren't ever going to convince anyone of anything by acting in this way, you are only going to get support from people who already share your views, which makes what you said here: completely untrue, unless they think in the way you do they are just going to think you are acting like a dickhead and dismiss everything you have said.[/QUOTE] So basically, you think that if a populous chooses to enact slavery again, we in the rest of the world, can't do anything but applaud them for their progress towards their goals? Because it's rude and stupid of us to declare the thoughts of other people rude or stupid despite some of those potential opinions creating harmful legislation that is considerably worse than just being "rude"? You have some seriously fucked up priorities.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50271797]So basically, you think that if a populous chooses to enact slavery again, we in the rest of the world, can't do anything but applaud them for their progress towards their goals? Because it's rude and stupid of us to declare the thoughts of other people rude or stupid despite some of those potential opinions creating harmful legislation that is considerably worse than just being "rude"? You have some seriously fucked up priorities.[/QUOTE] Yes I prioritize free speech and the ability to vote and choose your government, and to get policies that you want passed through if enough people think the same. If the people of a country all believe in something then I don't think that you can justifiably call them idiots for doing so. Yes it is rude and it is condescending to think people are idiots just because they have different political beliefs that you do. It is a harmful mindset to have where you believe that you know exactly what the right thing for the world is and that everyone who thinks something different must be retarded, rather than considering what they say and disagreeing with it with real points. Saying "you are stupid for thinking what you think you shouldn't think what you think idiot" doesn't do shit. The rest of the world has a hard time criticizing their own governments and other ones in the world because it might be considered racist or might offend someone. America is just an easy target because nobody gives a shit.

[QUOTE=igamiwarr;50271911]Yes I prioritize free speech and the ability to vote and choose your government, and to get policies that you want passed through if enough people think the same. If the people of a country all believe in something then I don't think that you can justifiably call them idiots for doing so. Yes it is rude and it is condescending to think people are idiots just because they have different political beliefs that you do. It is a harmful mindset to have where you believe that you know exactly what the right thing for the world is and that everyone who thinks something different must be retarded, rather than considering what they say and disagreeing with it with real points. Saying "you are stupid for thinking what you think you shouldn't think what you think idiot" doesn't do shit. The rest of the world has a hard time criticizing their own governments and other ones in the world because it might be considered racist or might offend someone. America is just an easy target because nobody gives a shit.[/QUOTE] Last I checked most of the UK wasn't a fan of David Cameron given that only 36% voted for him; and Australia didn't like Tony Abbott.. for his everything; and Canada didn't like Justin Trudeau for his fascination with oil. People have 100% a right to complain about other countries. I know it may be hard to believe, but every country affects the world in some way. The US for example affects the world more than nearly any country in the world, so damn right people are going to complain when someone like Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton are likely to become president. I, for example, call the Saudis and India fuckups of countries because how they treat their women. Glad to see that you think that the mass rape going on in those countries is fine because the men of there are OK with it.

[QUOTE=igamiwarr;50271911]Yes I prioritize free speech and the ability to vote and choose your government, and to get policies that you want passed through if enough people think the same. If the people of a country all believe in something then I don't think that you can justifiably call them idiots for doing so. Yes it is rude and it is condescending to think people are idiots just because they have different political beliefs that you do. It is a harmful mindset to have where you believe that you know exactly what the right thing for the world is and that everyone who thinks something different must be retarded, rather than considering what they say and disagreeing with it with real points. Saying "you are stupid for thinking what you think you shouldn't think what you think idiot" doesn't do shit. The rest of the world has a hard time criticizing their own governments and other ones in the world because it might be considered racist or might offend someone. America is just an easy target because nobody gives a shit.[/QUOTE] Honestly, keep talking because the more you say, the less you seem to know. Free speech is great. Free speech lets YOU say whatever you want, it also lets ME criticize it however I want. You can't talk a big game about free speech and then go crying home to mommy because someone said mean words. That's hypocrisy. That's not understanding free speech. As far as logical thought out criticism of his points go, you've ignored it multiple times to repeat yourself and this really, really silly argument about free speech.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50271998]Honestly, keep talking because the more you say, the less you seem to know. Free speech is great. Free speech lets YOU say whatever you want, it also lets ME criticize it however I want. You can't talk a big game about free speech and then go crying home to mommy because someone said mean words. That's hypocrisy. That's not understanding free speech. [b]As far as logical thought out criticism of his points go, you've ignored it multiple times to repeat yourself and this really, really silly argument about free speech.[/b][/QUOTE] He's ignoring all points and evidence made against him in another thread as well. I find it hilarious someone brings up free speech just to use it as an excuse to block criticisms.

[QUOTE=Map in a box;50271957]Last I checked most of the UK wasn't a fan of David Cameron given that only 36% voted for him; and Australia didn't like Tony Abbott.. for his everything; and Canada didn't like Justin Trudeau for his fascination with oil. People have 100% a right to complain about other countries. I know it may be hard to believe, but every country affects the world in some way. The US for example affects the world more than nearly any country in the world, so damn right people are going to complain when someone like Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton are likely to become president. .[/QUOTE] You just supported my argument, only 36% of people voted for him, so am I correct in saying that all of the UK are fucking idiots for electing him? Am I justified in saying that Australia is a country made up of morons because they elected Tony Abbott? [QUOTE=Map in a box;50271957] I, for example, call the Saudis and India fuckups of countries because how they treat their women. Glad to see that you think that the mass rape going on in those countries is fine because the men of there are OK with it.[/QUOTE] I don't approve of that at all, but as I have found out by listening to left wing people for so long saying anything bad about that makes you a racist and a bad person. I am offended by what you said about India and Saudi Arabia, are you suggesting that all people there are rapists? If I gave you the treatment Trump has been getting that is exactly what I would suggest. Can you see how this generalization of people's statements is bad?

No, but you're free to call the ones that did vote for them idiots for being as misinformed as they were. Be offended, you misinterpreted my point just like you're misinterpreting everything given to you on a silver platter. I clearly and totally called all the people there are rapists. You have a horrible habit of putting words in peoples mouths.