John Landis says George Lucas is letting Disney release the original theatrical versions of Star War
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Well they're not making it right now I can tell you that.
[QUOTE=mark6789;48721772]Well they're not making it right now I can tell you that.[/QUOTE]
Do you... know something we don't?
[QUOTE=woolio1;48722070]Do you... know something we don't?[/QUOTE]
Possibly. I'm not aloud to say what goes on or what I see at Sony
[QUOTE=mark6789;48721772]Well they're not making it right now I can tell you that.[/QUOTE]
Its already out on rendition 2.5. They did the original trilogy, so I'm wondering if disney is gonna tell them to take down all the copies
As bad as most of the revisions were, I think replacing Yub Nub was probably the best one.
[QUOTE=Nidhogg;48722256]As bad as most of the revisions were, I think replacing Yub Nub was probably the best one.[/QUOTE]
ya but as far as things go, why would they be celebrating the massive loss of imperial forces on what is still essentially the capital of the empire
also he radically changed up the entire ending scene just to shoehorn in the "new" movies
[QUOTE=Nidhogg;48722256]As bad as most of the revisions were, I think replacing Yub Nub was probably the best one.[/QUOTE]
I thought replacing the woman in a hood with the emperor was?
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Yet another print of Star Wars for everyone to buy. What a scam
[QUOTE=InsanePyro;48726241]Yet another print of Star Wars for everyone to buy. What a scam[/QUOTE]
It's not a scam when it's the first official release of the theatrical cuts on Blu-Ray, somethong people have been asking for for years.
people need to realize that even though we got the originals in 2006 the quality was unacceptable. It was the same transfer as the laserdisc. If you guys haven't already check out the Despecialzed editions by Harmy.
[QUOTE=InsanePyro;48726241]Yet another print of Star Wars for everyone to buy. What a scam[/QUOTE]
Star Wars is one of those things where they can release dozens of different editions, and each one is different enough to warrant a purchase. Mainly because Lucas spent twenty years ruining everything, and now Landis is trying to fix everything that was broken.
The theatrical cuts are the be-all, end-all Star Wars films. It's just taken us forty years to get here.
Now we just need to find the original print of the Holiday Special and unleash that on the world and we are set!
[QUOTE=Chrisordie;48729516]Now we just need to find the original print of the Holiday Special and unleash that on the world and we are set![/QUOTE]
If the new Blu-Ray has at least a high quality standard def version of this, I will purchase day one.
Why do we want these??
[QUOTE=Trogdon;48733142]Why do we want these??[/QUOTE]
because these original cuts are what made star wars the success that it is back in the 70s/80s, and not having them in the high quality standards so common of film remasters of late is awful.
[QUOTE=Missy<3;48733194]because these original cuts are what made star wars the success that it is back in the 70s/80s, and not having them in the high quality standards so common of film remasters of late is awful.[/QUOTE]
Plus the National Film Registry declared the theatrical versions of Star Wars to be historically important.
Imagine being the asshole who wasn't willing to release a historically important film.
[QUOTE=megafat;48735470]Plus the National Film Registry declared the theatrical versions of Star Wars to be historically important.
Imagine being the asshole who wasn't willing to release a historically important film.[/QUOTE]
It always cracks me up how George Lucas made a speech in front of Congress advocating not to colorize black and white films (Congress was planning to do this for some reason) because they're culturally and historically significant in their original form.
Then he goes and makes special editions of his films and refuses to release the original editions because they "don't represent [his] vision" :v:
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also remember when Lucas Films claimed that the original edition's negatives no longer exist because they were edited for the special editions
[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;48747295]It always cracks me up how George Lucas made a speech in front of Congress advocating not to colorize black and white films (Congress was planning to do this for some reason) because they're culturally and historically significant in their original form.
Then he goes and makes special editions of his films and refuses to release the original editions because they "don't represent [his] vision" :v:
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also remember when Lucas Films claimed that the original edition's negatives no longer exist because they were edited for the special editions[/QUOTE]
The strangest part about that story is that congress was actually planning to colourise black and white films
I mean to be fair on lucas some of the edits he made he did because originally he wanted to use special effects but ran out of money and couldn't finish them (like the one in ep 4 with han and jabba). He just went too far and ended up adding too much.
I was blown away by how fucking hard it was to get a non-fucked version of the classic Trilogy. The 1997 remasters aren't [I]terrible[/I] per-se, but there is a lot of unnecessary shit in them, don't get me started on 2004 onwards though.
[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;48747295]It always cracks me up how George Lucas made a speech in front of Congress advocating not to colorize black and white films (Congress was planning to do this for some reason) because they're culturally and historically significant in their original form.
Then he goes and makes special editions of his films and refuses to release the original editions because they "don't represent [his] vision" :v:[/QUOTE]
Appearently [url=http://www.slashfilm.com/george-lucas-speaks-altering-films-1988/]Lucas's exact words[/url] in his speech to Congress referred to alterations against " the moral rights of the artist," implying that the problem is just those who aren't the original creators doing the altering are in the wrong, and only the artist can do these changes right.
On the other hand, lines like "The public’s interest is ultimately dominant over all other interests" could certainly be used as evidence that a film's preservation is beyond even creators' authority,
Writing this though, i wonder about how this factors into "Director's Cut" versions of films. From a certain point of view, the Special Editions were Lucas's own Director's Cuts of the original trilogy. Could that mean we could simply treat Star Wars's many edits the same way we treat, say, the various cuts of Blade Runner? Or does this just boil back down to the fact George has been resistant to re-releasing the original cuts?
I don't think any information is really missing from this thread but I just want to be a little more concise for anybody that doesn't understand why this isn't just Star Wars 387th Edition:
It's not just that many people dislike the changes George made, it's that the totally normal process that they do whenever they transfer a movie from the master copies of the film (i.e. highest quality possible) to DVD or Blu-ray was literally never done with the original versions of the movies.
I have the laserdisc versions on my hard drive and this is the actual resolution:
[img]http://oi58.tinypic.com/25tdzyh.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Drewsko;48748351]Appearently [url=http://www.slashfilm.com/george-lucas-speaks-altering-films-1988/]Lucas's exact words[/url] in his speech to Congress referred to alterations against " the moral rights of the artist," implying that the problem is just those who aren't the original creators doing the altering are in the wrong, and only the artist can do these changes right.
On the other hand, lines like "The public’s interest is ultimately dominant over all other interests" could certainly be used as evidence that a film's preservation is beyond even creators' authority,
Writing this though, i wonder about how this factors into "Director's Cut" versions of films. From a certain point of view, the Special Editions were Lucas's own Director's Cuts of the original trilogy. Could that mean we could simply treat Star Wars's many edits the same way we treat, say, the various cuts of Blade Runner? Or does this just boil back down to the fact George has been resistant to re-releasing the original cuts?[/QUOTE]
It just boils down to Lucas being resistant to re-releasing the original cuts. Lucas could have done anything he wanted, as long as it was possible to buy the original versions of the movies on something more recent than fucking Laser Disc.
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[QUOTE=Splarg!;48748470]I don't think any information is really missing from this thread but I just want to be a little more concise for anybody that doesn't understand why this isn't just Star Wars 387th Edition:
It's not just that many people dislike the changes George made, it's that the totally normal process that they do whenever they transfer a movie from the master copies of the film (i.e. highest quality possible) to DVD or Blu-ray was literally never done with the original versions of the movies.
I have the laserdisc versions on my hard drive and this is the actual resolution:
[img]http://oi58.tinypic.com/25tdzyh.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Also, this is the best quality release of the original version made commercially available, to my knowledge.
[QUOTE=Drewsko;48748351]Appearently [url=http://www.slashfilm.com/george-lucas-speaks-altering-films-1988/]Lucas's exact words[/url] in his speech to Congress referred to alterations against " the moral rights of the artist," implying that the problem is just those who aren't the original creators doing the altering are in the wrong, and only the artist can do these changes right.
[B]On the other hand, lines like "The public’s interest is ultimately dominant over all other interests" could certainly be used as evidence that a film's preservation is beyond even creators' authority, [/B]
Writing this though, i wonder about how this factors into "Director's Cut" versions of films. From a certain point of view, the Special Editions were Lucas's own Director's Cuts of the original trilogy. Could that mean we could simply treat Star Wars's many edits the same way we treat, say, the various cuts of Blade Runner? Or does this just boil back down to the fact George has been resistant to re-releasing the original cuts?[/QUOTE]
Watch [I]The People vs. George Lucas[/I] if you want to see a crazy fandom contribute to that super awesome question.
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