US spying everywhere - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Jsm;42596089]Everyone is spying on everyone at every moment of every day. Anyone who is surprised by this is again very naive. What do people think the NSA, CIA etc (and their counterparts around the world) do with all the millions of dollars thrown at them? It is their job to know what is going on, that just happens to involve a major breach of the worlds privacy. Prior to PRISM and friends coming to light did anyone on here [B]genuinely[/B] not believe it was happening? Just to clarify, I don't think that makes it right. People who are truly outraged by this have been outraged by it for years and have been protesting against it prior to Snowden making it public.[/QUOTE] People have done better and people could do better. You are justifying passiveness with slav-tier "well I know I'm being fucked with but that's just life" paranoia. Watergate made people act.

[QUOTE=Falchion;42595930]1970s - The US government spies on a political party on a small scale? Convict everyone and switch presidents. Protect privacy and fair political funding with more regulations. 2010s - The US government spies on literally everyone? Who cares, of course the big brother is watching.[/QUOTE] Going back to 1970's CIA wouldn't be the best idea though. :v:

[QUOTE=Grabigel;42595809]You might as well ask why we have troops in like every country.[/QUOTE] You might as well ask why the sky is blue.

[QUOTE=Falchion;42597227]People have done better and people could do better. You are justifying passiveness with slav-tier "well I know I'm being fucked with but that's just life" paranoia. Watergate made people act.[/QUOTE] Because Watergate is a completely different thing?

[QUOTE=Van-man;42595830]Better backstab your friends before they backstab you.[/QUOTE] That is what paranoid people say. How can you even consider someone a friend if you think they're going to back stab you?

[QUOTE=cartman300;42595929]Stop pretending America is the king of the world, it is not.[/QUOTE] Except America is literally a super power. Pretty sure that last part was sarcastic, too.

[QUOTE=MR-X;42597550]That is what paranoid people say. How can you even consider someone a friend if you think they're going to back stab you?[/QUOTE] There are no friends in politics. Only interests. Remember: politics is basically playing mafia, but under other names, and some extra rules.

[QUOTE=MR-X;42597550]That is what paranoid people say. How can you even consider someone a friend if you think they're going to back stab you?[/QUOTE] you don't consider anyone your "friend" or "enemy", at least not permanently, thats the entire point of realpolitik, there are no permanent "friends" or "enemies" only interest, the strong do what they want, the weak do what they must, and thats one of the issues most critics of realpolitik criticize(and it doesn't exactly help that some of them only criticize it because they aren't on top...).

I wouldn't say Germany is "outraged". Merkel declared the whole thing a non-issue and with that it pretty much disappeared.

This just in, everyone is spying on everyone. Deal with it.

[QUOTE=MR-X;42597550]That is what paranoid people say. How can you even consider someone a friend if you think they're going to back stab you?[/QUOTE] Because they pretty much all will. It's human nature.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;42595839]Scary advice, coming from a Canadian :v:[/QUOTE] Only the colours of the flag is correct. The only thing I have in common with Canadians, is the Northern hemisphere.

[QUOTE=T553412;42597711]There are no friends in politics. Only interests. Remember: politics is basically playing mafia, but under other names, and some extra rules.[/QUOTE] Politics is the mob. Just legal.

[QUOTE=Falchion;42595930]1970s - The US government spies on a political party on a small scale? Convict everyone and switch presidents. Protect privacy and fair political funding with more regulations. 2010s - The US government spies on literally everyone? Who cares, of course the big brother is watching.[/QUOTE] It was eroded away a little more very 4 years

[QUOTE][/QUOTE][QUOTE=WeekendWarrior;42596001]The use of "emperor" implies the US has it's own empire though.[/QUOTE] In what way is the U.S not an empire? [QUOTE] an extensive group of states or countries ruled over by a single monarch, an oligarchy, or a sovereign state[/QUOTE] Can't deny the U.S is currently controlling an "extensive" group of countries.