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[QUOTE=Dukov Traboski;45975335]I'm not trying to say it's a bad thing and people shouldn't do it. I was just honestly confused as to why people would do it. I didn't realize that some people saw it as an invasion of privacy.[/QUOTE] Because "Identify yourself immediately or be detained for an indeterminate amount of time with no logs to prove this ever happened" totally doesn't sound like something out of a dystopian novel.
[QUOTE=ScottyWired;45975267]In Australia some police departments have quotas for catching speeding. It's ridiculous, cops in well behaved areas need to make false fines just so they don't get ass-fucked by upper ranks.[/QUOTE] They don't do false fines, they just start pulling people up for minor infractions. I don't know where you're talking about but here in SE QLD, quotas do not exist and are a bullshit rumour.
[QUOTE=Dukov Traboski;45975335]I'm not trying to say it's a bad thing and people shouldn't do it. I was just honestly confused as to why people would do it. I didn't realize that some people saw it as an invasion of privacy.[/QUOTE] It kind of obviously is. Imagine if it wasn't a cop, but a random person off the street? Now you might argue that they cops above regular citizens? Besides that being silly in and of it self, the point of a police officer is to enforce laws, which are supposed to be for the good of society at large, and therefore they act as citizens who are supposed to enforce these things that we all democratically* agreed were best. (bit of a run-on there, sorry) So, if you were actively breaking the law in some manner, then any random person off the street, should be able to make a citizens arrest because they are a part of society, and you have broken a law which supposedly hurts society at large. However, society obviously doesn't work that way and we've made technological progress only because of this human ability to specialize. But now you should see that it is clearly an invasion of privacy, since police are, just citizens.
As negative as a quota system sounds it's sort of one of the easiest ways to actually motivate active police work. If quotas didn't encourage police officers to make stops than they'd just be idle and and act as a purely reactive organization waiting for people to call in crimes which is what most departments try not to become. Just like in any other job if you were, for example given a mop and told to mop the floor and there was no one coming back in twenty minutes to see how much work you did than you would do just enough to skid by without actually cleaning the whole floor. For cops it's the same way really, otherwise they'd be sitting in a car waiting for someone to call in a crime they could have possibly prevented from ever happening through proactive police work.
PDA is an illegal activity around my friends. Punishment is a slap in the nuts.
[QUOTE=Dukov Traboski;45975294]You still haven't answered the question, what do they have to lose from showing them the ID and what do they have to gain from withholding it? I honestly can't see a reason for someone to withhold it.[/QUOTE]Not having to dig out their wallet, then dig their ID out of the wallet, (you have to physically give the card to them for it to count) and then unfuck everything to put the ID back into the wallet. There. Three reasons. I have every right to say no, just like I have every right to have a messy wallet (or maybe I need to have a messy wallet? Maybe I have a lot of stuff, or a lot of cash) and the cops have [i]no right[/i] to ruin my day and violate my rights.
[QUOTE=Dukov Traboski;45975195]What's the point of withholding your ID in the first place? Like it takes 10 seconds to take it out and give it to them. It's not like they are gonna run off with it.[/QUOTE] do most people actually carry an ID wherever they go?? this concept always confuses me so much when i hear about people getting in trouble for not producing ID's. last i checked it was perfectly legal to leave your house without your "papers" so i never started the habit of carrying my ID unless im driving (aka when you are legally required to have it?) 99% of the time im walking about town i dont have any ID on me, id be totally fucked if i got asked for ID [editline]14th September 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Dukov Traboski;45975260]In this particular situation they weren't. But if that was the case then I don't know. But that isn't the point I'm trying to make. All I'm saying is, you cause yourself more trouble by withholding your ID then you are getting out of.[/QUOTE] "if an officer asks you to kiss his hand, why wouldnt you? it takes almost no effort and youre just causing yourself trouble by not kissing his hand. i just dont understand" [editline]14th September 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;45975406]As negative as a quota system sounds it's sort of one of the easiest ways to actually motivate active police work. If quotas didn't encourage police officers to make stops than they'd just be idle and and act as a purely reactive organization waiting for people to call in crimes which is what most departments try not to become. Just like in any other job if you were, for example given a mop and told to mop the floor and there was no one coming back in twenty minutes to see how much work you did than you would do just enough to skid by without actually cleaning the whole floor. For cops it's the same way really, otherwise they'd be sitting in a car waiting for someone to call in a crime they could have possibly prevented from ever happening through proactive police work.[/QUOTE] i feel as though quotas are cutting off the nose to spite the face. you have a problem: police need motivation to be proactive and help the population. solution: force them to arrest people and issue fines in certain numbers to encourage them to help the population. result: most people hate cops because they get pulled over and bullshitted into $300 fines for having a headlight that is 2 lumens too dark all because the acting officer doesnt have the proper work ethic to be proactive without being abusive there should be a better way to encourage proactive police work that doesnt involve fucking over innocent people
Why the fuck are people rating a racial profiling arrest that made a person cry funny
[QUOTE=Flyingman356;45975631]Why the fuck are people rating a racial profiling arrest that made a person cry funny[/QUOTE] This is asked every thread like this, and the answer is always the same. It's not really important enough to care about honestly. [editline]14th September 2014[/editline] In this case I'd assume it's due to the lapd being the lapd and fucking up yet again.
Sue for emotional distress.
Why are american cops so fucking horrible at their job? I mean, we hear loads of these cases where they just randomly arrest people, or shoot them and their dogs to death, why? Is American police school really that bad? Edit: Yeah rate me dumb for coming with a fact and asking a question.
LAPD is the worst and continues to be so
[QUOTE=NeverGoWest;45975710]Why are american cops so fucking horrible at their job? I mean, we hear loads of these cases where they just randomly arrest people, or shoot them and their dogs to death, why? Is American police school really that bad?[/QUOTE] Maybe it's possible that policing a country with 300 million people is hard and people fuck up sometimes.
If a cop asks you to present an ID, you can request that they identify themselves first both via ID and badge number which is done by calling in amd verifying that the number belongs to that officer. Unlike you, they're actually obligated tp do so because of their position.
[QUOTE=GeneralSpecific;45975829]Maybe it's possible that policing a country with 300 million people is hard and people fuck up sometimes.[/QUOTE] Some cases are unforgivable though, like this one that was linked in the article. [url]http://www.chron.com/news/hurricanes/article/Galveston-parents-say-cops-beat-girl-in-1777017.php[/url] The cops were never even investigated.
[QUOTE=NeverGoWest;45975710]Why are american cops so fucking horrible at their job? I mean, we hear loads of these cases where they just randomly arrest people, or shoot them and their dogs to death, why? Is American police school really that bad?[/QUOTE] Actually yeah. Police tend not to know shit about the laws they're enforcing. In fact, most of the bullshit you get put through by them can be smoothed out in court if you verse yourself and know your rights. That being said its a lot of knowledge and effort.
When does Parfumly get here to talk shit.
Did they seriously detain her for dressing [I]slutty[/I]? This is more like fashion police.
[QUOTE=CubeManv2;45975181]Isn't it fucking stupid. It's your right to not show ID if you don't want too, but they can arrest you and hold you till they figure out who you are anyway. What the fuck is the point of your right?[/QUOTE] Over here to avoid this problem entirely you must show your ID if any officer asks you to. Not complying is a violation of the art 651 of the penal code, and you can be locked up for month. If during your refusal you turn violent or offensive, you are instead breaking art 337 of the penal code, resisiting public officer, which can get you locked up for up to 5 years. I don't get people who doesn't want to show their ID. It is not a violation of your privacy. If anyhting, if something bad happens, you have an Alibi, because the police can attest you were in said place in said hour. So it's all in your favor. And that of the community.
Lmao, something similar just happened to me at uni the other day. I study in a Jesuit university and this fucking hypocrite priest SHOUTED at me and my girlfriend when he saw me put my arm around her, and no one was even around and asked for our IDs and when we refused he fucking DRAGGED me by arm in front of people to the student affairs office and had my girlfriend follow. Good thing I know the director and he was pretty tactful and reasonable in dealing with us. I just filed a complaint against the priest dude yesterday. I mean like, that day my girlfriend was really stressed, and I just put my arm around her while we were walking for like three seconds. Then the fucking priest came and started shouting "WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING? SHOW ME YOUR ID." And since I was like confused and agitated that he was literally shouting at me and her, I was trying to ask him in a calm manner but he didn't let me speak and continued shouting at me to show him my ID, but of course I wasn't just going to do that without a reason, so he suddenly went like "ARE YOU RESISTING ME?" and dragged me by arm to the office. The priest is apparently a pretty influential one in uni since it's run by priests no shit so I guess my complaint can't do much but yeah. Now my girlfriend's paranoid about being touchy and shit because this kind of crap could get us in trouble with her parents and potentially force us to separate, and we were sanctioned a warning. Note that I JUST PUT MY FUCKING ARM around her to make her feel better since she was stressed. There are tons of other students hugging and stuff in public places around school and they don't get charged with PDA. It's just that a fucking priest that was PMSing managed to single us out because we were the first people he saw. Thank you, god damn hypocrite priest for ruining two innocent students' day and possibly more. Edit: sorry for turning this into a rant ugh i just wanted to vent out [QUOTE=Mingebox;45976157]Do you go to school in the 1500's or something?[/QUOTE] Definitely felt like it. I wanted to shout at the priest to not fucking touch me as it was beyond him to do that but I knew that would just get me more sanctions and might get my girlfriend involved.
[QUOTE=General J;45975147]Is it hard to be a cop? I mean are there arrest quotas you have to meet on the job similar to a gamestop employee's pre-order quota? In these stories it just seems like cops are really desperate to grasp at straws on a given situation to arrest someone.[/QUOTE] Depending on the area they deal with idiots everyday, especially LAPD that place is just full of crime they see it everyday it's pretty stressful.
[QUOTE=Rainboo;45976142]Lmao, something similar just happened to me at uni the other day. I study in a Jesuit university and this fucking hypocrite priest SHOUTED at me and my girlfriend when he saw me put my arm around her, and no one was even around and asked for our IDs and when we refused he fucking DRAGGED me by arm in front of people to the student affairs office and had my girlfriend follow. Good thing I know the director and he was pretty tactful and reasonable in dealing with us. I just filed a complaint against him. I mean like, that day my girlfriend was really stressed, and I just put my arm around her while we were walking for like three seconds. Then the fucking priest came and started shouting "WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING? SHOW ME YOUR ID." And since I was like confused and agitated that he was literally shouting at me and her, I was trying to ask him in a calm manner but he didn't let me speak and continued shouting at me to show him my ID, but of course I wasn't just going to do that without a reason, so he suddenly went like "ARE YOU RESISTING ME?" and dragged me by arm to the office. The priest is apparently a pretty influential one in uni since it's run by priests no shit so I guess my complaint can't do much but yeah. Now my girlfriend's paranoid about being touchy and shit because this kind of crap could get us in trouble with her parents and potentially force us to separate, and we were sanctioned a warning. Note that I JUST PUT MY FUCKING ARM around her to make her feel better since she was stressed. There are tons of other students hugging and stuff in public places around school and they don't get charged with PDA. It's just that a fucking priest that was PMSing managed to single us out because we were the first people he saw. Thank you, god damn hypocrite priest for ruining two innocent students' day and possibly more. Edit: sorry for turning this into a rant ugh i just wanted to vent out[/QUOTE] Do you go to school in the 1500's or something?
[QUOTE=Dukov Traboski;45975195]What's the point of withholding your ID in the first place? Like it takes 10 seconds to take it out and give it to them. It's not like they are gonna run off with it.[/QUOTE] Maybe you don't want to. That should be enough, in a free country.
Kind of reminds of this old video: [video=youtube;9lxJuy0FqYk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lxJuy0FqYk[/video]
Those cops are fuckin dicks.
[QUOTE=Rainboo;45976142]Lmao, something similar just happened to me at uni the other day. I study in a Jesuit university and this fucking hypocrite priest SHOUTED at me and my girlfriend when he saw me put my arm around her, and no one was even around and asked for our IDs and when we refused he fucking DRAGGED me by arm in front of people to the student affairs office and had my girlfriend follow.[/QUOTE] Maybe it's just me, but I and pretty much everyone I know would have that guy on the ground in a restraining grab as soon as he became physical, with the other person with me calling the police due to the guy being both agressive in vocalization, body language, and physically assaulting me.
[QUOTE=NeverGoWest;45975710]Why are american cops so fucking horrible at their job? I mean, we hear loads of these cases where they just randomly arrest people, or shoot them and their dogs to death, why? Is American police school really that bad?[/QUOTE] Probably because shit police are the only ones on the news
[QUOTE=Dukov Traboski;45975236]the fact that her name would've been the same as her husbands?[/QUOTE] My wife doesn't have my last name. Changing your name is a hassle.
[QUOTE=RustledJimmys;45975880]When does Parfumly get here to talk shit.[/QUOTE] I don't pop in on threads often because usually shitty police work speaks for itself.
[QUOTE=NeverGoWest;45975710]I mean, we hear loads of these cases where they just randomly arrest people, or shoot them and their dogs to death, why? Is American police school really that bad?[/QUOTE] No, it's just that, unless it's someone famous or some [I]really[/I] big time criminal, news outlets never report on cops actually doing their job
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