• Couple sues after finding their engagement photo in an anti-gay marriage ad
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I never said it was the gay couples who negativley raised them, and it isnt! It's simply the drama that surrounds it. And its sad that it happens. I can only hope the best for those people. [editline]6th October 2012[/editline] damn automerge
[QUOTE=usa;37921599]Its a different experience for everyone. This is one of few experiences. And im not against this! Im for this! Its just not the same for everyone I really didn't want to have to bring this up from personal experience because it looks cheap, but this is why I continue to argue with you. A kid lived down the street from me when I was in primary school, his parents, a lesbian couple. He was bullied and targeted at my school and was a good friend of mine until I moved away about a year later. Our principal wouldn't listen to what was happening, only when we got a new principal the term before I left it had seemed things started to pick up. At one point I remember visiting his house with my mother and she was chatting to them, some point in the conversation I remember the couple bursting into tears about how "hard it was to keep pushing against the other people". I never quite understood what was going on, but I do now. Only two years ago I met him again when we decided to sell the house up the street from him where we used to live. He seems to be doing better than he was and liking his school. I didn't talk to him much though. Its not similar, maybe it is where you come from, but from what I have heard and seen, some nations and areas are more accepting than others and some worse.[/QUOTE] What the fuck are you talking about? Being bullied is not an effect of having lesbian parents, it's an effect of living in a community where kids are being taught that being gay is bad.
[QUOTE=Fort83;37921606]And Canada hasn't collapsed in the way people in the US say the US will collapse if gay marriage is legal.[/QUOTE] In fact in many ways we're doing better.
[QUOTE=usa;37921273]I'm trying to help you understand its not similar to be raised by a gay couple, its different. The effect on the child may not show until he comes of age and sorts himself out (which i doubt, it will show early), but it will show, everything influences, especially your parents.[/QUOTE] All families are different! Why is the difference between being raised by a gay couple and a straight couple BAD?! You haven't given me a single argument of how it's different other than the one that OTHER PEOPLE might not LIKE IT!
[QUOTE=mobrockers2;37921630]What the fuck are you talking about? Being bullied is not an effect of having lesbian parents, it's an effect of living in a community where kids are being taught that being gay is bad.[/QUOTE] And how is having this part of your upbringing "similar". Sadly a heck of a lot of people are taught gay is bad so these things happen alot. If people become more accepting, then I could say similar, but thats not the case. Now i'm sick of this lengthy discussion, and i'm not going to change anyone's opinion on one simple little thing. Noone seems to be getting im for gay couples and kids. Just against this comparison of it, maybe I shouldnt have gotten so worked up in the first place over such a trivial thing and waste all my time. Throw me boxes, now I know why people say fighting for your opinion on facepunch sometimes feels like fighting the mentally handicapped.
[QUOTE=usa;37921712]And how is having this part of your upbringing "similar". Sadly a heck of a lot of people are taught gay is bad so these things happen alot. If people become more accepting, then I could say similar, but thats not the case. Now i'm sick of this lengthy discussion, and i'm not going to change anyone's opinion on one simple little thing. Noone seems to be getting im for gay couples and kids. Just against this comparison of it, maybe I shouldnt have gotten so worked up in the first place over such a trivial thing and waste all my time. Throw me boxes, now I know why people say fighting for your opinion on facepunch sometimes feels like fighting the mentally handicapped.[/QUOTE] What boxes? No one has rated your posts dumb yet. You're saying their upbring isn't the same. This is the part you're not getting: [img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5483751/Photos/2012-10-05_1726.png[/img] Being bullied has not a fucking thing whatsoever to do with your upbring, unless of course you're being bullied by your parents.
[QUOTE=usa;37921712]Throw me boxes, now I know why people say fighting for your opinion on facepunch sometimes feels like fighting the mentally handicapped.[/QUOTE] Fighting for an opinion with no basis in anything should feel like that.
[QUOTE=mobrockers2;37921741]What boxes? No one has rated your posts dumb yet.[/QUOTE]I just did for his last one, but he asked for it anyway.
That is pretty fucking disgusting. Stealing a gay couple's photographs to be used in anti-gay propaganda. Nice work guys. I wonder how they'd like it if somebody got hold of one of their family photographs, indicated one of their kids and wrote "How will this child know anything other than bigotry?"
[QUOTE=Jacam12SUX;37911470]I might be reading this out of context but nice job at trying [b]really[/b] hard to be as passive-aggressive as possible. Either you were trying to be funny or do you have a problem with homosexuals, usaokay? You say "it's not your business", right, it isn't, but what you said prior to that has a pretty condescending and judgmental tone to it.[/QUOTE] Whats wrong with what he said? Two men buttpounding it out isn't my damn business either. Nor is it my business if two birds do it, or a hetero couple. [QUOTE=Alcoholocaust;37913484]Its like a zombie apocalypse! Except its not really an apocalypse.. and they dont spread it.. and they arent really dangerous.. or dead.. yet. Fuck ruined my point :downs: [U]I do not have anything against homosexuals though, and i really think those people who stole that picture should be reprimanded.[/U] Actually i have a lesbian friend, she's one nice person. [U]Im an atheist but still against same-sex marriage[/U], since its basically one of the things Christianity forbids. Its like making hotdogs mandatory at a Chanukkah part. No offense to anybody intended. Rate boxes.[/QUOTE] rofl are you [I]that [/I]dense Christianity doesn't own marriage you daft tweak, nor does the bible care about marriage, the bible doesn't define all christians, and all christianity is not defined by "being against gay marriage". I'll add, that marriage is also something that greatly predates Christ. "I do not have anything against homosexuals, But gays are not allowed to marry, because some assholes with a book said so, even though I disagree with their book!" I'm not even going to hold back either "just because you said no offense". You're being totally insane. That's like saying "I have a black friend but I believe blacks shouldn't be allowed to marry because of some arbitrary reason". [QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;37914128]First of all, the Bible is the defining text of Christianity. Second, they are supposed to.[/QUOTE] Haven't you ever heard of "interpretation" they aren't supposed to be constrained to anything, they have the freedom of choice to interpret it how they wish. To interpret as the literal word of god would also mean they are bound to the fact that they have to accept all people, even if gay, and hate the sin not the sinner. Jesus hung out with 12 guys and a prostitute. I don't think Jesus really gave a damn about what gays did really so... Christianity isn't supposed to hate gays.
usa, your point is entirely irrelevant obviously different people will have different childhoods why even bring up an argument about whether or not having gay parents will have indirect influence on the childhood? obviously it will, just like anything else by bringing up this unimportant tidbit, you appeared to imply that it is a bad idea for gay parents to raise children, to which you backpedaled by whining about how it isn't your responsibility to investigate the words you cite to make sure they are actually what you mean to say you don't get to be right just because you bitch
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