• Protests in Chicago after officer fatally shoots 16-year-old boy
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[QUOTE=Pilot1215;50128193]A witness claimed... You mean to tell me they are basing protests off a single witness testimony that could potentially be bullshit itself? Kid pulled a gun, kid got shot, end of story. Maybe if he had better parents and role models, he'd still be around. Don't protest the cops, protest your own shitty role models, and the thug culture.[/QUOTE] After Mike Brown got shot when the Police shot some drug dealer that pointed a gun at them BLM rioted for days and you had 10 people go on camera saying the police planted a gun on him until they released CCTV video of him with a fucking gun in his hand pointing it at directly at a police officer when he got shot. [editline]16th April 2016[/editline] It reminds me of the Sandra Bland people; You had fucking idiots trying to claim she was dead in her mugshot since she was in the jail uniform eventhough you never ever take a mugshot in street clothes here. [editline]16th April 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=cody8295;50145407][url]http://abc13.com/news/tow-truck-driver-says-video-proves-unlawful-arrest/1288455/[/url] ^^ This is exactly why I don't trust police reports There's a video in the source which clearly shows the man never aiming the gun at the officer.[/QUOTE] Oh yeah police reports are fucking bullshit; The arresting officer on my report put down the "victims" statements as being from me; and pretty much wrote I confessed to everything the "victim said". (The dashcam showed they didn't even say anything he put down in the report and during the entire interview he was trying his best to get them to say what he put in the report but they never did). So yeah that was 18 months my life and over $3k wasted before the prosecutor finally dropped the case. Meanwhile my arresting officer is no longer a cop and his partner is actually named in a federal lawsuit for mishandling evidence and misconduct in a unrelated investigation currently.
[QUOTE=Jordax;50127307][t]http://i.imgur.com/vcoRGDB.jpg[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/pU5ppCS.jpg[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/XLyM7p5.jpg[/t] Yeah, he seemed like such an innocent and law-abiding kid. *sarcasm*[/QUOTE] That 2nd pic.. Black people's emoji etiquette are out of this world
[QUOTE=srobins;50147613]That 2nd pic.. Black people's emoji etiquette are out of this world[/QUOTE] That's pretty much the definition of prejudice dude
[QUOTE=geel9;50147622]That's pretty much the definition of prejudice dude[/QUOTE] Acknowledging the well established fact that there are differences in communication styles online that correlate with ethnic identity is a preconceived opinion not based on evidence or experience? I could probably cook up a more "correct" way of phrasing it but I think acknowledging the fact that "black twitter" is a thing people have done scientific studies on is pretty reasonable to anyone that isn't just looking to jump down someone's throat over alleged racism lol
[QUOTE=cody8295;50144397]citizens can resist unlawful arrest.[/QUOTE] I don't think resisting arrest is a very good idea. Not only will it make you look guilty, but it's also a great way for you to get hurt.
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;50144716]Of course you can. The situation is a dead guy on the street with his hand and gun still stuck in his pants after trying to pull it out on you and your partner. Would you high five, or would you not? If you say yes, you must always do this, if no, you must never do it, and if someone would initiate a high five in such circumstances, you must decline. I'm not condemning their actions entirely either. Like killing the kid. Just the high fiving.[/QUOTE] Honestly, it depends on how it went down. For instance, in that situation, a guy pulls a gun on me and my partner shoots first and effectively saves my life, then yeah, I might high five him. For these two officers who knows? It was a heat of the moment thing, they're adrenaline's pumping, they're probably thankful they got out okay. Was it the most tasteful thing to do? Probably not. Besides, at this point it's all hearsay. Until there's a video of the incident, then we won't know for sure.
[QUOTE=srobins;50147648]Acknowledging the well established fact that there are differences in communication styles online that correlate with ethnic identity is a preconceived opinion not based on evidence or experience? I could probably cook up a more "correct" way of phrasing it but I think acknowledging the fact that "black twitter" is a thing people have done scientific studies on is pretty reasonable to anyone that isn't just looking to jump down someone's throat over alleged racism lol[/QUOTE] I didn't say racism, I said very specifically prejudice. Beyond that, I wasn't aware that there are actual well-performed studies that show that black people, by and large, have emoji etiquette that is "out of this world". My apologies.
[QUOTE=geel9;50147683]I didn't say racism, I said very specifically prejudice. Beyond that, I wasn't aware that there are actual well-performed studies that show that black people, by and large, have emoji etiquette that is "out of this world". My apologies.[/QUOTE] And you very specifically failed to capture the meaning of the word "prejudice", because lightheartedly acknowledging the influence of ethnicity and culture on social media doesn't really cut it.
[QUOTE=srobins;50147701]And you very specifically failed to capture the meaning of the word "prejudice", because lightheartedly acknowledging the influence of ethnicity and culture on social media doesn't really cut it.[/QUOTE] Not really. Saying "black people are/do/act like X" is prejudice unless there's a very good reason for believing that.
[QUOTE=geel9;50147715]Not really. Saying "black people are/do/act like X" is prejudice unless there's a very good reason for believing that.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=srobins;50147648]...but I think acknowledging the fact that [B]"black twitter" is a thing people have done scientific studies on[/B] is pretty reasonable to anyone that isn't just looking to jump down someone's throat over alleged racism lol[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Apache249;50144833]Are you trolling me or what? Clarify or I'm moving on.[/QUOTE] Fine, I'll clarify it for you. Basically, you don't seem to condemn high-fiving your police partner after shooting somebody dead on the street. (Justified shooting ofc.) Then you tried to pin it on traumatic experience, because you failed to find any viable explanation for such behavior, behavior which you STILL don't condemn. Even if hearsay.
[QUOTE=Zet;50147669]I don't think resisting arrest is a very good idea. Not only will it make you look guilty, but it's also a great way for you to get hurt.[/QUOTE] US law allows up to and including [B]killing the arresting officer[/B] to defend yourself against an unlawful arrest. The supreme court has upheld this in John Bad Elk v. U.S., 177 U.S. 529 and Housh v. People, 75 111. 491; reaffirmed and quoted in State v. Leach, 7 Conn. 452; State v. Gleason, 32 Kan. 245; Ballard v. State, 43 Ohio 349; State v Rousseau, 241 P. 2d 447; State v. Spaulding, 34 Minn. 3621. Also look into White v Morris where a murder of a police officer was overturned because the arrest was unlawful. The definition of an unlawful arrest according to the supreme court: [QUOTE]“Where the officer is killed in the course of the disorder which naturally accompanies an attempted arrest that is resisted, the law looks with very different eyes upon the transaction, when the officer had the right to make the arrest, from what it does if the officer had no right. What may be murder in the first case might be nothing more than manslaughter in the other, or the facts might show that no offense had been committed.”[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]“An arrest made with a defective warrant, or one issued without affidavit, or one that fails to allege a crime is within jurisdiction, and one who is being arrested, may resist arrest and break away. lf the arresting officer is killed by one who is so resisting, the killing will be no more than an involuntary manslaughter.” [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Revenge282;50149161]quote[/QUOTE] Yes hi, welcome to the conversation! If you'll read my previous post you'll see that's something I touched on. Thanks!
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