• Nazi Holocaust Memorabilia Removed From eBay
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[QUOTE=James*;42743694]Yes I'm familiar with how buying and selling works. And I'm passing judgement on the process by saying it's tasteless. Can you seriously not understand this? [editline]3rd November 2013[/editline] The alternative would be hanging onto them or donating them to a museum. I'm not sure how that is tantamount to 'pretending the holocaust never happened' [editline]3rd November 2013[/editline] Let me guess, i bet you own gas masks and weapons because of your 'deep interest in history'[/QUOTE] I own me great-great-granddaddy's shotgun from WWI, a couple of old uniforms and guns, and all sorts of old posters, coins, etc. because I'm interested in how things were back then. Hell, I own an authentic Mosin-Nagant that was used during the Russo-Japanese war.
[QUOTE=teh pirate;42744674]I own a WW2 Lee Enfield rifle and a pre-1900s Parkhurst side by side shotgun, a slew of edged weapons from 1850 to 1945 (including a Prussian artillery sabre made in 1856 in Solingen)[/QUOTE] Totally called it
[QUOTE=James*;42751517]Totally called it[/QUOTE] What exactly is your point though?
[QUOTE=James*;42751517]Totally called it[/QUOTE] you still haven't explained exactly why it's 'tasteless'
[QUOTE=James*;42743559]It's extremely tasteless [editline]3rd November 2013[/editline] Owning them is one thing but making 12 grand off them is another[/QUOTE] If people can't see this, they're much more fedorable than I thought.
[QUOTE=krail9;42751932]you still haven't explained exactly why it's 'tasteless'[/QUOTE] Why did ebay take them down? They weren't legally obliged to [editline]4th November 2013[/editline] I'd still like someone to explain to me why not profiting off Auschwitz memorabilia is tantamount to 'pretending the holocaust never happened'
[QUOTE=James*;42751999]Why did ebay take them down? They weren't legally obliged to [editline]4th November 2013[/editline] I'd still like someone to explain to me why not profiting off Auschwitz memorabilia is tantamount to 'pretending the holocaust never happened'[/QUOTE] Considering he was going to be using the funds to fund his books on the Holocaust...
[QUOTE=bdd458;42752048]Considering he was going to be using the funds to fund his books on the Holocaust...[/QUOTE] If only everyone was as trusting as you
[QUOTE=James*;42751999]Why did ebay take them down? They weren't legally obliged to[/QUOTE] they shouldn't have, you tell me why they should
So its ok for a museum to buy these yet a private collector cant. The fuck is this logic?
[QUOTE=krail9;42752066]they shouldn't have, you tell me why they should[/QUOTE] Because the only reason to own them is morbid curiosity, because the holocaust is still very raw in the minds of living victims/close relatives of victims, because it raises questions about where/how the seller got them originally, because they belong in a museum not in the personal collection of someone with possibly very dubious motives for owning them Your turn
[QUOTE=James*;42752114]Because the only reason to own them is morbid curiosity, because the holocaust is still very raw in the minds of living victims/close relatives of victims, because it raises questions about where/how the seller got them originally, because they belong in a museum not in the personal collection of someone with possibly very dubious motives for owning them Your turn[/QUOTE] I hope you realize many items donated to museums get stuffed in Collection Storage. Many never see the light of day are not appreciated for what they are, where they were, what they represent. I would know, I volunteer at multiple museums. In the hands of a private collector at least one person will be able to appreciate what that item represents. [url]http://vdmedien.com/images/RegimentalBadgesOfImperialRussia-Kopie.jpg[/url] (one of the books the originally seller wrote)
[QUOTE=bdd458;42752131]I hope you realize many items donated to museums get stuffed in Collection Storage. Many never see the light of day are not appreciated for what they are, where they were, what they represent. I would know, I volunteer at multiple museums. In the hands of a private collector at least one person will be able to appreciate what that item represents. [url]http://vdmedien.com/images/RegimentalBadgesOfImperialRussia-Kopie.jpg[/url] (one of the books the originally seller wrote)[/QUOTE] I don't object the ownership per se, more the profiteering I'm also speaking more generally, this guy may have pure motives but many others won't [editline]4th November 2013[/editline] Even stuff in storage can be accessed by historians and so on
I can't see any reason why people should be disallowed from selling and purchasing items like this. So many items through out history which have been related to wars, tragedies, and instances of peace are not mocked simply for being traded back and forth. I literally can go to a local Surplus Store, and purchase gas masks which symbolized the fear of nuclear and biochemical war. Simply removing these items spits in the face of remembering tragedy, and failure to simply move on.
i'm pretty sure ebay has rules about nazi memorabilia or whatever. just find a different site to sell it on i guess. seems kinda sick to me making money of auchwitz stuff but i dunno you make money how you can
[QUOTE=James*;42752114]Because the only reason to own them is morbid curiosity, because the holocaust is still very raw in the minds of living victims/close relatives of victims, because it raises questions about where/how the seller got them originally, because they belong in a museum not in the personal collection of someone with possibly very dubious motives for owning them Your turn[/QUOTE] ok firstly you make a huge assumption about the motives of both the seller and potential buyer, imo these pieces obviously have historical value and are pretty powerful emotionally, it's hardly 'morbid curiosity' secondly, how exactly is it offensive to the victims? this isn't 'nazi memorabilia' and it doesn't glorify it at all, in fact, it really lets you sympathise with the horrible things that happened to these people, it's almost like a piece of art however the items were obtained is of no interest to ebay, do you think they should shut down people selling second hand electronics because they could be stolen? finally, your opinion that they 'belong in a museum' is once again completely irrelevant. a private collector's motives are not necessarily any different from a museum's
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