[QUOTE=redsoxrock;45364144]Whats so different about the desktop?[/QUOTE]
The colors are slightly different.
[QUOTE=Binladen34;45364123]Who said I was talking about the start menu? I'm talking about the entire user interface.[/QUOTE]
It is literally the same thing except for a few improvements to the file explorer. You never even have to touch metro, even in the settings. I touch it maybe once a day, at most.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/kIYplAT.png[/t]
if you really want a "start menu" in w8 without any programs
use taskbar properties / tool bars and check desktop. In fact, I set up windows 7 with "Desktop" and a games folder and its pretty close to the normal start menu without a bunch of stuff. I have the normal start for tools and "Desktop" for everything else, taskbar with hyper common stuff.
also right clicking the windows icon helps
[QUOTE=Binladen34;45364123]Who said I was talking about the start menu? I'm talking about the entire user interface.[/QUOTE]
Literally the only difference I [i]ever[/i] notice in windows 8 vs windows 7 is that I swipe my cursor along the side of my monitor to shut my computer down. That's it. The control panel is basically entirely the same, and I have only had to touch the metro settings once in over a year of using it. Seriously, the only major difference between 7 and 8/8.1 is the start menu is full-screen. It searches the same way with the exact same keystrokes as the start menu, it uses the same buttons, and most of the UI is entirely unchanged.
I tried using Windows 8 for more than a few seconds once and I can safely compare it to putting my hand in a garbage disposal: it's an extremely painful process that was a really stupid idea to begin with.
[QUOTE=J!NX;45364199]if you really want a "start menu" in w8 without any programs
use taskbar properties / tool bars and check desktop
also right clicking the windows icon helps[/QUOTE]
Holy shit. Easier to use Metro and type in whatever but it's pretty cool they have that functionality. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Binladen34;45363995]Uh, it is. If you've used it 90% of the functions were designed with the aspect of a touch screen doing all of the movement, not a mouse. All the menus are structured like they would be on a tablet OS, and the gestures (Which a lot of the time are the [B]ONLY[/B] way to operate the OS, were designed with a touch screen in mind. Though they can be done with a mouse they are infinitely more tedious and difficult to do.[/QUOTE]
Move your mouse to the bottom left. Hey, the start menu! Move your mouse to the top right. Hey, the charms bar! Wow, that sure was tedious and difficult.
[editline]12th July 2014[/editline]
And those are the only things different from Windows 7.
[QUOTE=FunnyStarRunner;45364223]I tried using Windows 8 for more than a few seconds once and I can safely compare it to putting my hand in a garbage disposal: it's an extremely painful process that was a really stupid idea to begin with.[/QUOTE]
And I'm willing to bet you used it at Best Buy or Target or something where you weren't computing as you usually do or else you'd see everything is exactly the same, but improved with the Metro screen. You were probably checking out the new start screen a lot in addition to Metro UI apps, which is prominently showcased on desktops/laptops. Both of which you'll hardly or never touch.
Treat Windows 8 as a massive "behind the scenes" improvement and you'll be a lot happier with it. Less time waiting, overall much easier to use, it's more secure, it has some really neat features that you'll actually use (native ISO mounting, better multi-monitor support, detects drivers for literally anything I throw at it, account syncing, the new task manager is amazing, the aero style replacement looks great, file history backups and a ton of other little and major things I'm forgetting)
[QUOTE=Korova;45364283]And I'm willing to bet you used it at Best Buy or Target or something where you weren't computing as you usually do or else you'd see everything is exactly the same, but improved with the Metro screen.[/QUOTE]
No it was my parents' computer. It took me longer than necessary to even find the Control Panel.
[QUOTE=FunnyStarRunner;45364223]I tried using Windows 8 for more than a few seconds once and I can safely compare it to putting my hand in a garbage disposal: it's an extremely painful process that was a really stupid idea to begin with.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FunnyStarRunner;45364303]No it was my parents' computer. It took me longer than necessary to even find the Control Panel.[/QUOTE]
so basically a few minutes
more like
you aren't willing to learn a new concept so you act like its the worst thing ever
[QUOTE=FunnyStarRunner;45364303]No it was my parents' computer. It took me longer than necessary to even find the Control Panel.[/QUOTE]
*hit start button and type in control*
[t]http://i.imgur.com/rmKcE8P.png[/t]
I don't even understand why that wasn't your first instinct.
[QUOTE=FunnyStarRunner;45364303]No it was my parents' computer. It took me longer than necessary to even find the Control Panel.[/QUOTE]
Sidebar -> Settings -> Control Panel
Sidebar -> Search -> Control Panel
If you actually took the time to learn to use Windows 8 you wouldn't have this trouble.
[QUOTE=supersnail11;45364323]Sidebar -> Settings -> Control Panel
Sidebar -> Search -> Control Panel
If you actually took the time to learn to use Windows 8 you wouldn't have this trouble.[/QUOTE]
this too
also you could right click where the start button is in 8.1 and you'll get this
[t]http://i.imgur.com/x1ob5RR.png[/t]
I think 2020 for security patches is very reasonable. I'm gonna stick with Windows 7 for a little while longer but I'm pretty sure I'll be using a new Windows OS sometime over the next 6 years unless something goes terribly wrong.
[QUOTE=Korova;45364327]this too
also you could right click where the start button is in 8.1 and you'll get this
[t]http://i.imgur.com/x1ob5RR.png[/t][/QUOTE]
Oh, cool, I didn't know you could do that. I thought you had to make a shortcut or use powershell if you wanted an elevated command prompt.
Every Windows news thread. lol
But yeah this makes sense..I think 5 years is pretty short but with Win8 out and Win9 on the way, it makes sense.
i work at best buy and we get old people complaining about windows 8 all the goddamn time
"do all these computers come with the microsoft 8 on them? i hate microsoft 8."
"why do you dislike it?"
"because someone told me to"
then i show them how it actually fuckin works and they are all like wowee thats actually a little bit easier
[QUOTE=FunnyStarRunner;45364303]No it was my parents' computer. It took me longer than necessary to even find the Control Panel.[/QUOTE]
...it's still in the default window that file explorer opens in the same place and you can still open it by typing control panel after hitting the windows key. I'm not 100% on this but it might even have an icon by default on the start screen. I'm sorry but if it took you that long to figure out you're not bad at using windows 8, you're just awful at using computers in general. Anyone who has used windows 7 shouldn't really have any problems finding it
Ok. Sure. Go for it. I don't care. Win7 will work just fine after you end support and that means my machine will continue to work just fine.
Par the course. Security updates are all that matter and they're keeping it alive for a long time this way. Windows 8.1 is wonderful anyway, stable and fast. Plus once you get used to where things are with the UI it's hellah fast to use and navigate.
In a cumulative 24 hours of using Windows 8, I think I see a metro interface for a total of about 45-50 seconds of that time. That's not an exaggeration or hyperbole, I hit the start key and search for what I need and that takes 2 or 3 seconds each time. I don't even use the mouse in the process. If you don't want to look at a metro interface, you don't have to.
The most intensive task I've ever had to do in Metro was to occasionally right-click and hit "Open file location" to get at something.
Meanwhile, the UI is cleaner and less resource-intensive than Windows 7, the Task Manager is way more useful, Boot times are mind-blowing, the right-click menu on the start button is insanely useful, and a dozen more tiny things that are better.
[QUOTE=J!NX;45364314]so basically a few minutes
more like
you aren't willing to learn a new concept so you act like its the worst thing ever[/QUOTE]
What advantage does learning windows 8 give
[QUOTE=avincent;45364934]What advantage does learning windows 8 give[/QUOTE]
the chance at finding something you really really like if you're going to use it anyways
[QUOTE=avincent;45364934]What advantage does learning windows 8 give[/QUOTE]
You don't even need to learn it. You just need to get used to it/get the hang of it. And that's by just using it.
you guys do know windows 8 actively spies on you and has several backdoors, and is the least secure windows to date, right?
Most of the vulnerabilities that are present in xp-7 are still in 8, all they did was fix common methods of attack, yet they didn't do anything for a lot of shit that should have been patched.
I hope win9 isn't bad.
[QUOTE=space1;45365068]you guys do know windows 8 actively spies on you and has several backdoors, and is the least secure windows to date, right?
Most of the vulnerabilities that are present in xp-7 are still in 8, all they did was fix common methods of attack, yet they didn't do anything for a lot of shit that should have been patched.
I hope win9 isn't bad.[/QUOTE]
windows 8
more back doors than a strip club
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;45363803]oh christ
Honestly you people need to realize that there comes a point when using an old OS holds everything back.[/QUOTE]
oh christ
you clearly don't have slightest how many custom science and business app still REQUIRE xp for a working framework
perhaps your perspective is a tad obtuse and limited
Every time a thread is posted about anything related to Windows in SH
It [I]always[/I] boils down to the same shit
Windows 8 sucks, anyway
No, you just hate change.
The whole metro shit is ridiculous, why would they move everything to that
You're not forced to use it, everything's there the same way
There's still no reason to remove the start menu and make it some tablet-desktop hybrid mess.
You can just install this program to make it look like the old start menu
Yeah, when I need to install shit to give myself a decent experience, they've really messed up
Just like you install Firefox/Chrome over IE, Notepad++ over Notepad, and VLC over Windows Media Player? Plus, boot times are quicker.
Yeah, only because it puts the kernals to sleep instead of shutting them down.
There. A template to how this thread will be, give or take a few things.
Please, prove me wrong, and discuss longevity of Windows OS supports, rather than another 7 vs. 8 thread. We already had one last week.
[QUOTE=darrn;45363811]Sure, you're good for a year or two, but then after that you really should consider moving on. Don't be that guy I know still running system 7 20 years later.[/QUOTE]
Excuse me, but System 7 kicks ass. You can run HyperCard on it. And KidPix.
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