Sony Admits Private PSN Info Has Been Stolen - All Of It
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[QUOTE=Tralisk;29462919]If it were documented and easily replicated, this wouldn't have happened. Sony would've blocked it a long time ago.[/QUOTE]
Again, as shown by the long history of computer security, that's a big maybe.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_disclosure[/url]
vs what this was:
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_day_attack[/url]
[QUOTE=Kagrenak;29462914]Then don't make or defend posts like this and no one will be annoyed with you people:[/QUOTE]
Right now, as it stands anything is possible, you can neither prove or disprove what I have said.
[QUOTE=itchyflakes;29462962]Right now, as it stands anything is possible, you can neither prove or disprove what I have said.[/QUOTE]
Seeing as you're the one making the positive claim, and your claim is unlikely given how anyone with half a brain would setup a database storing sensitive information, you have no ground.
Lack of evidence may not be evidence of absence, but the weight of a claim dictates the amount of evidence a claim requires to be accepted. While your claim is only reasonably outlandish, you have provided no evidence at all beyond simple speculation. To any reasonable impartial observer, that would be nowhere near enough.
[QUOTE=Gordon Frohm;29461756]They're fucking both the community and the company the way I see it, but you shouldn't want to fuck up the community too if you're just angry with Sony about the jailbreaking thing.
Such things always hit the wrong people.[/QUOTE]
Well, yeah, but that will hit the consumers harder then Sony.
I think...
[QUOTE=dass;29463926]Well, yeah, but that will hit the consumers harder then Sony.
I think...[/QUOTE]
You think right.
How long? how long before XBOX live gets hacked?
I sure hope those hackers enjoy the 20p I've got in my PSN wallet. :downs:
[QUOTE=OctopusGuy;29464033]I sure hope those hackers enjoy the 20p I've got in my PSN wallet. :downs:[/QUOTE]
I don't think they care at all about your wallet funds.
If i bought something once, but didnt save the info or took it away after, im safe ? please tell me i am :frown:
[QUOTE=Mryamanami;29464152]If i bought something once, but didnt save the info or took it away after, im safe ? please tell me i am :frown:[/QUOTE]
better safe than sorry my friend. Brofist for those affected.
[QUOTE=Mryamanami;29464152]If i bought something once, but didnt save the info or took it away after, im safe ? please tell me i am :frown:[/QUOTE]
No. You sent the info directly towards them so there's most likely a payment there in their system with your name and numbers on it.
Almost down an entire billion today, Jesus that's going to hurt if this freefall continues, that's not even 1 hour up yet.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;29461459]except whoever did this attacked the consumers more than sony
and to say they provoked this attack is pure garbage. sure, it's lame of sony to be so militant about anti-ps3 modding.
does that warrent an attack on them? for restricting what you can do with their product? does that also warrant an attack on all their customers?
don't be stupid[/QUOTE]
I agree with Rusty
Hammering the PSN to hit Sony's bottom line is one thing, releasing personal information to hit the customer's bottom line is another
Whatever happened to just spamming black faxes to shut down the offices for a while
[QUOTE=Zeke129;29464454]I agree with Rusty
Hammering the PSN to hit Sony's bottom line is one thing, releasing personal information to hit the customer's bottom line is another
Whatever happened to just spamming black faxes to shut down the offices for a while[/QUOTE]
Seriously, this
or spamming gay porn to everyone's emails :v:
Oh Sony when did you go so wrong
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[QUOTE=BCell;29464002]How long? how long before XBOX live gets hacked?[/QUOTE]
Something tells me if theres a trace of hacking Xbox support will freak the fuck out and shut it down until its safe.
[QUOTE=Ban Camp;29464587]Oh Sony when did you go so wrong
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Something tells me if theres a trace of hacking Xbox support will freak the fuck out and shut it down until its safe.[/QUOTE]
Look at the most recent ITN thread about Xbox :v:
First step achieved:Find way to unban banned consoles
[QUOTE=BCell;29464002]How long? how long before XBOX live gets hacked?[/QUOTE]
If XboxLive gets hacked it won't be in the same way, you need an attachment to turn the console into a developer console.
Well shit, i'm fucked but seriously i am.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;29461398]I don't really get why some people are blaming/badmouthing Sony for this. They did their best to create a foolproof system, and eventually somebody broke in. They're doing their best to fix it. I'm no huge Sony fan, but I have nothing against them. Give them a break.[/QUOTE]
They did the bare minimum to protect your data. 60 million identities potentially stolen because of their shit security. Sony broke data protection laws. Give them a break? Nope.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;29461459]except whoever did this attacked the consumers more than sony
and to say they provoked this attack is pure garbage. sure, it's lame of sony to be so militant about anti-ps3 modding.
does that warrent an attack on them? for restricting what you can do with their product?[/QUOTE]
When they attack the people releasing information on how to reenable features Sony removed, yes. I own the PS3 I paid £300 for, not Sony. We can't let corporations control what we can do with the things we buy, not like this. Sony's case against Geohot should have been thrown out; why can we jailbreak iPhones but not PS3s? Because Sony has a team of lawyers being paid shitloads and Geohot is just a lowly consumer. Sony don't give a shit about their customers, why should we give a shit about Sony?
[QUOTE]does that also warrant an attack on all their customers?[/QUOTE]
No. What I'm hoping is the attackers don't actually release the information, and that the reports of money being stolen are false or unrelated.
[QUOTE=V12US;29460524]Well, in their defense, you never know if something digital gets stolen, because it doesn't really get stolen, it gets copied. Perhaps they didn't know to which extent the hacker(s) intruded and were simply hoping for the best, which is still retarded, but understandable for a company who doesn't want to tell their customers some unknown jackass might have their credit card information.[/QUOTE]
They should have said something right away. Even if they didn't know customer information had been stolen.
[QUOTE=mobrockers2;29461518]Check log, see unauthorised download of ALL PERSONAL DATA, think hmm, what might that be? 7 Days later, They stole all your personal data, you might have to worry now, but we couldn't do anything about it, we didn't know yet untill today. :frogbon:[/QUOTE]
it doesn't work like that
[QUOTE=Tralisk;29462237]Declared war? They were just being a normal company with normal policies that became a target for doing such.[/QUOTE]
So a company suing people doing what they want with what they bought is normal? What kind of world do you live in?
Sony, you're pretty fuckin' lazy. There's this thing called "[B]encryption[/B]" that could've stopped this from happening. Or at least delay it until it was bruteforced; about [I]three times the expected lifespan of the planet[/I].
[url]http://www.google.co.uk/finance?client=ob&q=NYSE:SNE[/url]
Their stocks aren't doing so well.
[QUOTE=Wiggles;29452082]This. While Sony is still partially at fault, it's these ridiculous hackers and script kiddies that need to be at the forefront of the blame train.[/QUOTE]
:worship:
:argh:
[editline]27th April 2011[/editline]
Not that I used PSN anyway. My first-gen PSP isn't compatible with my router.
as soon as i heard this, i cancelled my card
why havent all of you done this
[QUOTE=lavacano;29459599]Sony should just give up and close down for good.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/5PQot.jpg[/img]
I just wanted to link my PSN account to my Steam account and play Portal 2 on my PC.
Thanks alot, douche-bags.
For the first time I can remember, I'm in agreeance with Rusty100. Albeit, Sony's security was breached, it wasn't at all their fault. If someone has the time and means, they can get into anything. As it seems, Sony probably did take every precaution, if not better precautions than any other corporation(none of you know for sure), but the fact that there was someone patient enough and willing enough to get it done, allowed it to be done. It doesn't matter how good Sony could have made it's security, the fact is, someone wanted in, and they went through the loops to get in.
Blaming Sony, is accusing them of something they didn't do. Something was done to them. All in all, I'd consider them the victim.
Whew, thank god the money on my card isn't even mine, but then again, i think my brother and uncle would be pissed, not to mention that my dad would blame me for the money disappearing. I'm using my account to store my brother's and uncles money, without opening another account.
[QUOTE=theevilldeadII;29461411]a year from now it will be the other way around[/QUOTE]
You're an idiot. Sony has been around decades before Valve, not only that, but they've asserted themselves in several fields that Valve is incapable of entering. And maintains a yearly revenue that is thousands of times greater than that of Valve.
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