Norway marks one year since attacks - Polidicks

[QUOTE=thisispain;36879538]anti-muslim sentiment in scandinavia is a very curious thing.[/QUOTE] Well, Al-Qaida did send out a message after the bombs, that they did it, and that Norway should back out of Afghanistan(they do it all the time, but still). I remember I was discussing it with a muslim friend of mine, and she was terrified by the thought that it could be a muslim and how much it would ruin it for other muslims living here. I was thinking it had to be some politically motivated crazy person because of the targets(al qaida would have probably just found a place with a lot of people). Norway also supports Palestina, so yeah. I had some friends who wanted to go there, but didn't have the time(lucky for them).

[QUOTE=smurfy;36879658]I do, but very vaguely [editline]22nd July 2012[/editline] I think it was pretty big on BBC but I dunno[/QUOTE] The BBC's practically obligated to as they run an international news station. [QUOTE=GameDev;36879684]Wasn't someone from facepunch there when it happened[/QUOTE] Links please?

[QUOTE=Thaard;36881606]Well, Al-Qaida did send out a message after the bombs, that they did it, and that Norway should back out of Afghanistan(they do it all the time, but still). I remember I was discussing it with a muslim friend of mine, and she was terrified by the thought that it could be a muslim and how much it would ruin it for other muslims living here. I was thinking it had to be some politically motivated crazy person because of the targets(al qaida would have probably just found a place with a lot of people). Norway also supports Palestina, so yeah. I had some friends who wanted to go there, but didn't have the time(lucky for them).[/QUOTE] When we were speculating on motive and perpetrator, I do admit I guessed it might be a muslim extremist fringe group, mostly because there were strong motives for an attack with our Afghanistan presence, the Mohammed drawings, Mullah Krekar, allies of the US and more. It was a natural assumption since we were already a target by groups such as al Qaeda. Regardless of this, calling for the extradition of immigrants or muslims is naive at best, idiotic overall.

[QUOTE=soccerskyman;36879555]Its ridiculous how in America, we had little coverage of this. My parents didn't even know it happened.[/QUOTE] That's the opposite for me, everyone knew. Same with what Dr.C mentions, well at least I remember that, but it IS India so its a little...weird.

[QUOTE=Dr.C;36879644]Remember when like last year or two years ago terrorists attacked that hotel in India and killed around 80 people and had that huge showdown with the police? Me neither[/QUOTE] I sent a condolence letter to the Indian embassy in Oslo and followed the entre shabang on BBC.

I remember when this happened. Everyone else around here was upset too but only because whats-her-face celebrity number sixteen zillion died at about the same time. For some reason that was more tragic than the shit that went down in Norway. [editline]22nd July 2012[/editline] no i'm not still bitter about that

all i remember from that day now is the fact i was up all night translating articles from norwegian to english

[QUOTE=smurfy;36879416]One in four Norwegians know somebody who was injured/killed in the attacks[/QUOTE] My neighbour down the street (whom i know) had their daughter at Utoya when it happened, she survived though.

[QUOTE=MeMassiveFag;36878584]damn, it's been a year already?[/QUOTE] 2 much computaaaa

I remember how I went to my bands practise room with a friend and telling him about it.. it feels like a couple of months...

[QUOTE=thisispain;36879538]anti-muslim sentiment in scandinavia is a very curious thing.[/QUOTE] It's not, if you consider the demographics of many of our immigrants. Then add events like 9/11, the London bombings, etc.

[QUOTE=Clementine;36879150]No, it won't, not even close.[/QUOTE] it's an equivalent scenario - norway haven't had this kind of violence in a very long time

[QUOTE=demoguy08;36883217]It's not, if you consider the demographics of many of our immigrants. Then add events like 9/11, the London bombings, etc.[/QUOTE] The london bombings are weird really, it pales in comparison to 9/11, so of course the response wouldn't be as large, but I haven't ever actually heard of a reaction beyond "Holy shit stuff exploded" on a governmental level.

[QUOTE=smurfy;36879416]One in four Norwegians know somebody who was injured/killed in the attacks[/QUOTE] That can't be right, if I'm calculating this right that would mean each person in Norway would have to know 30,000 people personally. Seems a little high, maybe one in twenty people?

[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;36893195]That can't be right, if I'm calculating this right that would mean each person in Norway would have to know 30,000 people personally. Seems a little high, maybe one in twenty people?[/QUOTE] No we all know at least 30 000 people. Though I know a real isolated loner guy who only knows 10 000 people.

[QUOTE=mac338;36900149]No we all know at least 30 000 people. Though I know a real isolated loner guy who only knows 10 000 people.[/QUOTE] Really? I can only think of 467 people that I know.

Still remembering with my avatar.

By god it's already been a year. Time has been going so fast for me lately.

[QUOTE]A few hours after the shootings started, some fucks nearby thought it'd be a good idea to light fireworks (The ones that sound like gunshots), I was ready to go grab a weapon at that point.[/QUOTE] Man, my blood would boil if I were you at that point.

You people shouldn't be sad. It was the best thing that could have ever happened to the political left. Some megalomaniac WoW nerd comes along, killing more or less innocent children while putting out a manifesto that's a pastiche of the party program of the various nationalist parties of Europe, putting an atleast temporary stop to the incredible gains that nationalist parties all over Europe had been enjoying.

[QUOTE=smurfy;36879416]One in four Norwegians know somebody who was injured/killed in the attacks[/QUOTE] I call bullshit. [editline]24th July 2012[/editline] Anyway horrible thing that happened.

Apparently it's actually 1 in 4 who know someone [I]affected by[/I] the attacks. So that includes knowing someone who knew someone who died

That makes more sense.

You haven't inquired every last one of Norwegians about it. No one has.

[QUOTE=Gekkosan;36914330]You haven't inquired every last one of Norwegians about it. No one has.[/QUOTE] That's not how statistics work.

[QUOTE=barraclogh;36914080]You people shouldn't be sad. It was the best thing that could have ever happened to the political left.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry? "Don't be sad that many people were killed, because it was to the benefit of your political party"? Dude, listen to yourself. [QUOTE=barraclogh;36914080]Some megalomaniac WoW nerd comes along, killing more or less innocent children while putting out a manifesto that's a pastiche of the party program of the various nationalist parties of Europe, putting an atleast temporary stop to the incredible gains that nationalist parties all over Europe had been enjoying.[/QUOTE] It barely affected the politics of Norway. Sure, labor got a few sympathy votes, but the party who did best this election was the one called "right" - by far. (Relative to previous years) Also the Norwegian political left and right is very different from the American one. The only major party that can by American standards be called "republican" or "right" (though moderate republicans, if anything) is FrP - and they're still socially liberal. Luckily they did pretty crappy this election too. There isn't a danger for nationalistic parties to rise in Norway, like Vigrid. The danger would be if the vote tipped too much to the left where there are parties like "Rødt" (actual communists) "SV" (far left social democrats). Labor comes next, but aren't as radical as the other two. However both SV, Rødt and most of the Norwegian left has been having a really bad electoral year, and honestly that's okay. The fact that people in Norway are leaning left/moderate is good in my opinion, and it also shows that the event barely affected the people both on the left and the right.

[QUOTE=barraclogh;36914080]You people shouldn't be sad. It was the best thing that could have ever happened to the political left. Some megalomaniac WoW nerd comes along, killing more or less innocent children while putting out a manifesto that's a pastiche of the party program of the various nationalist parties of Europe, putting an atleast temporary stop to the incredible gains that nationalist parties all over Europe had been enjoying.[/QUOTE] The left is using this incident to promote their politics. But I think that the average Scandinavian is intelligent enough to know that all parties has extremists.

I know people who were on the island, luckily they all got away alive.

Breivik is an antisemitic Zionist; how typical of the wests right today

[QUOTE=RichyZ;36916198]back for more?[/QUOTE] Its true, read his manifesto. His rightist view is not uncommon in Europe at the moment. In fact its basically the standard. France having social anxieties over the burqa (despite it accounting for a very small minority of Muslims in France, many of which are white converts), the English right bringing into serious debate as to what to do about "the Pakis", german hate for Turks increasing despite their economy, terrorism and white nationalism in Norway, rising intolerance and calls for isolationist immigration policies in the rest of Scandinavia, neonazis flocking to Russia, the golden dawn in Greece gaining in popularity and unrest; Europe, amidst economic trouble and a rapid influx of immigrants from Arabian and south Asian countries is in doubt and denial as to its future, both as to their place the global scene and as to their cultural identity.