Eighty children get chickenpox at Brunswick North West Primary, a school that calls for 'tolerance' - Polidicks

Congratulations, now those eighty children are extremely likely to get shingles when they hit their 40s. I hope those parents feel happy for dooming their kids to constant pain, irritation, and misery for the latter halves of their lives and I hope the school district feels happy for not preventing this from happening by being "tolerant".

[QUOTE=Lordgeorge16;49285957]Congratulations, now those eighty children are extremely likely to get shingles when they hit their 40s. I hope those parents feel happy for dooming their kids to constant pain, irritation, and misery for the latter halves of their lives and I hope the school district feels happy for not preventing this from happening by being "tolerant".[/QUOTE] u wot? shingles only happens in super rare cases

[QUOTE=lintz;49285968]u wot? shingles only happens in super rare cases[/QUOTE] It does? The commercials on TV make it sound far more likely. [editline]10th December 2015[/editline] I am now realizing how retarded that sounds, given America's penchant for pushy medicine advertisements.

if getting chickenpox made people more likely to get shingles, then every person who's ever been vaccinated against it would also be likely to get shingles

I got chicken pox in 7th grade and missed a week and half of school It was an awful experience

[QUOTE=Lordgeorge16;49285957]Congratulations, now those eighty children are extremely likely to get shingles when they hit their 40s. I hope those parents feel happy for dooming their kids to constant pain, irritation, and misery for the latter halves of their lives and I hope the school district feels happy for not preventing this from happening by being "tolerant".[/QUOTE] As opposed to them getting chickenpox later in their lives and risking dying?

[QUOTE=lintz;49285968]u wot? shingles only happens in super rare cases[/QUOTE] I hear that shingles is pretty common in college due to stress activating it. Source: Had a case of shingles a few months ago. Only 19 years old.

The school headmaster, or whoever the fuck made it "anti-vax tolerant", should be nuked out of existance.

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;49286208]I got chicken pox in 7th grade and missed a week and half of school It was an awful experience[/QUOTE] i got it during the summer break from school and was absolutely livid.

I got the vaccine for Chicken Pox when I was 4 and still got it plus spreading it to my sister

Well when it comes to chicken pox the effectiveness of the vaccine is somewhat in question and you can request to have it but it is not mandatory in the UK either as far as I know (simply because it is not as dangerous as measles at any point and getting and building natural immunity is fairly easy).

[QUOTE=Broseph_;49285462]There's a vaccine for Chickenpox? Because when I was a kid it was traditional when you got chickenpox to spread it to everyone on purpose, to the point there was even a Rugrats episode based around it.[/QUOTE] Ya but it turns out that's not a good thing to do when 1 of those children has a compromised immune system Plus it leads to shingles later in life because the virus never really leaves you

[QUOTE=Sableye;49286463]Ya but it turns out that's not a good thing to do when 1 of those children has a compromised immune system Plus it leads to shingles later in life because the virus never really leaves you[/QUOTE] And 98% of the population has had chickenpox at some point i their lives, you can't avoid it so what's the difference?

I wonder if theyre going to get shingles later.

[QUOTE=EskillV2;49285559]Only retarded thing is not getting chickenpox as a child, because that will fuck you up badly or kill you as an adult. That's why kids should get chickenpox and deal with it, it's no more unpleasant than usual when you get sick or get the flu. And it helps the immune-system later in life.[/QUOTE] I disagree, it was definitely quite a bit more unpleasant (and can leave scars). Getting the vaccine should have the same effect but be a lot nicer in comparison. [editline]10th December 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=lintz;49286206]if getting chickenpox made people more likely to get shingles, then every person who's ever been vaccinated against it would also be likely to get shingles[/QUOTE] [del]It doesn't work like that.[/del] Shingles is caused by a dormant virus infection in nerve tissue[del], which can't happen with the deactivated viruses from a vaccine[/del]. [editline]edit[/editline] Apparently this vaccine works differently: [QUOTE=Broseph_;49287101]According to the CDC having the vaccine puts you at risk pf Shingles as well.[/QUOTE]

It's the chicken poxes, it's nothing major. I've had it about four times.

[QUOTE=WrathOfCat;49286567]I wonder if theyre going to get shingles later.[/QUOTE] I just looked it up since I was wondering about the likelihood to get it. [URL="http://www.rightdiagnosis.com/s/shingles/prevalence.htm"]Apparently lifetime incidence is around 20%[/URL][URL="https://archive.is/UKKwT"],[/URL] [URL="http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/566973"]but seemingly it's preventable even after initial infection via a vaccine (if I didn't misread that). Seems to be fairly treatable too, so it's unlikely to reoccur and won't hurt for over a month for 82% of patients[/URL][URL="https://archive.is/aHoLE"].[/URL]

[QUOTE=Passing;49286678]It's the chicken poxes, it's nothing major. I've had it about four times.[/QUOTE] lol how? you get it once and are then immune to it forever.

[QUOTE=freaka;49286718]lol how? you get it once and are then immune to it forever.[/QUOTE] You would think that considering i was vaccinated against the virus as well.

I'm confused by this thread. Are people arguing in favor of the usage of pox parties? Because those are fucking retarded. I mean, yeah, I'd understand it if they happened before the introduction of the vaccine (in 1995), but they're still risky as fuck, and kiiiinda cruel. Not only are the parents willingly infecting their kid, but they're also exposing them to potentially fatal complications, or, hell, totally different diseases. Hep B, pneumonia, joint infections, encephalitis, death, etc. It was dumb and risky back then, and it's still dumb and risky today - even moreso since there is a safe, effective vaccine available today.

[QUOTE=N.A.N.B;49286762]I'm confused by this thread. Are people arguing in favor of the usage of pox parties? Because those are fucking retarded. I mean, yeah, I'd understand it if they happened before the introduction of the vaccine (in 1995), but they're still risky as fuck, and kiiiinda cruel. Not only are the parents willingly infecting their kid, but they're also exposing them to potentially fatal complications, or, hell, totally different diseases. Hep B, pneumonia, joint infections, encephalitis, death, etc. It was dumb and risky back then, and it's still dumb and risky today - even moreso since there is a safe, effective vaccine available today.[/QUOTE] yeah thousands of kids died from pox parties in sweden during the 80s and 90s including me oh wait

[QUOTE=ElectricSquid;49285467]I was under that impression too. And not to justify these people, but as far as diseases go, chickenpox isn't exactly the worst thing to catch. Unless you're an adult and end up with shingles.[/QUOTE] Had shingles. Shit sucks. I got it when I was like 14 though, and got it in a near perfect, concentrated rectangle above my left hip. Lasted for about a week and looked like a rice crispie's treat, burned and itched like crazy, after that week it was just there healing up, never felt it

[QUOTE=N.A.N.B;49286762]I'm confused by this thread. Are people arguing in favor of the usage of pox parties? Because those are fucking retarded. I mean, yeah, I'd understand it if they happened before the introduction of the vaccine (in 1995), but they're still risky as fuck, and kiiiinda cruel. Not only are the parents willingly infecting their kid, but they're also exposing them to potentially fatal complications, or, hell, totally different diseases. Hep B, pneumonia, joint infections, encephalitis, death, etc. It was dumb and risky back then, and it's still dumb and risky today - even moreso since there is a safe, effective vaccine available today.[/QUOTE] because it's even less risky than getting it as an adult, no matter how you look at it, which could outright kill you The risk is still WAY less than not doing it [QUOTE=Broseph_;49285480]Because you can only catch Chickenpox once in your life, and it's very mild for children but it will fuck you up like Ebola if you catch it as an adult.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=wewt!;49285501]Same reason as getting a vaccine, to form antibodies as a child where it's not dangerous. Except getting a vaccine is way more pleasant, I still remember how unpleasant chicken pox is[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=AK'z;49285537]:v: so you don't catch it later in life when it can kill you :v: :v:[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=EskillV2;49285559]Only retarded thing is not getting chickenpox as a child, because that will fuck you up badly or kill you as an adult. That's why kids should get chickenpox and deal with it, it's no more unpleasant than usual when you get sick or get the flu. And it helps the immune-system later in life.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Super2Donny;49285611]I thought most people get chickenpox immunity by contracting it as a child[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Lium;49285632]Because dying to it as an adult is a much better alternative, right?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=lintz;49286206]if getting chickenpox made people more likely to get shingles, then every person who's ever been vaccinated against it would also be likely to get shingles[/QUOTE] There is no "if" [editline]10th December 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=freaka;49286774]yeah thousands of kids died from pox parties in sweden during the 80s and 90s including me oh wait[/QUOTE] This is a really stupid post.

[QUOTE=Saturn V;49285546]sounds incredibly fucking retarded[/QUOTE] There's a number of diseases that have very little impact on you as children, that can be debilitating, and sometimes outright kill you, as an adult. Chickenpox and measles are two prime examples. Spreading them around used to be a viable way of developing immunities as children. Sure, now we have vaccines for it, but it's still a perfectly viable way of becoming immune.

[QUOTE=J!NX;49286795]because it's even less risky than getting it as an adult, no matter how you look at it, which could outright kill you The risk is still WAY less than not doing it[/QUOTE] But that's a ridiculous assumption to make. The symptoms you experience as a child do not make up for the risks that having it at [I]all[/I] result in. Hell, you're still sick for a week, suffering from blisters and sores, some of which can scar you for life. In other cases, it can kill them - and there's no way of actually telling whether the child will suffer from severe consequences or not. In fact, the varicella virus even has a chance to go dormant in the body after your symptoms subside. This, by the way, is why so many people have shingles, with 3 million cases per year. Even if they had it in the past, it can resurface and cause a rash in their old age, or, even worse, postherpetic neuralgia, which involves permanent nerve damage to the area and can result in pains for the rest of their lives. [QUOTE=freaka;49286774]yeah thousands of kids died from pox parties in sweden during the 80s and 90s including me oh wait[/QUOTE] Likewise, just because the more terrible complications didn't present themselves in your case, that doesn't mean they didn't exist and weren't present. The parties are a flawed, dangerous system - even if they're better than nothing, the risks of shingles, hepatitis A&B, nerve damage, and even necrotizing facilitis and death are still some very real threats. What I'm saying, ultimately, is that it's a dumb idea. It was in the past, and it is today.

[QUOTE=N.A.N.B;49287082]But that's a ridiculous assumption to make. The symptoms you experience as a child do not make up for the risks that having it at [I]all[/I] result in. Hell, you're still sick for a week, suffering from blisters and sores, some of which can scar you for life. In other cases, it can kill them - and there's no way of actually telling whether the child will suffer from severe consequences or not. In fact, the varicella virus even has a chance to go dormant in the body after your symptoms subside: this is why so many people have shingles - even if they had it in the past, it can resurface and cause a rash in their old age, or, even worse, postherpetic neuralgia, which involves permanent nerve damage to the area and can result in pains for the rest of their life.[/QUOTE] did you ignore every single reply I just posted or???? I mean chicken pox parties exist for a reason. But of course, no one needs that anymore anyways, except people who can't get the vaccine, then they have to get it by other means

[QUOTE=Killuah;49287005]There is no "if" [editline]10th December 2015[/editline] This is a really stupid post.[/QUOTE] In 2007 in England and Wales, 75% of deaths due to chickenpox were in adults despite the fact it's an extremely rare virus to catch as an adult. [editline]10th December 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=N.A.N.B;49287082]But that's a ridiculous assumption to make. The symptoms you experience as a child do not make up for the risks that having it at [I]all[/I] result in. Hell, you're still sick for a week, suffering from blisters and sores, some of which can scar you for life. In other cases, it can kill them - and there's no way of actually telling whether the child will suffer from severe consequences or not. In fact, the varicella virus even has a chance to go dormant in the body after your symptoms subside: this is why so many people have shingles - even if they had it in the past, it can resurface and cause a rash in their old age, or, even worse, postherpetic neuralgia, which involves permanent nerve damage to the area and can result in pains for the rest of their life. Likewise, just because the more terrible complications didn't present themselves in your case, that doesn't mean they didn't exist and weren't present. The parties are a flawed, dangerous system - even if they're better than nothing, the risk of shingles is still a very real threat, and of the side effects that can also result from it. What I'm saying, ultimately, is that it's a dumb idea. It was in the past, and it is today.[/QUOTE] According to the CDC having the vaccine puts you at risk pf Shingles as well.

Ahhh, I remember when I caught chickenpox at the tender young age of 18.

[QUOTE=Kinversulath;49287161]Ahhh, I remember when I caught chickenpox at the tender young age of 18.[/QUOTE] Why so late to the party?