• 5 Year Old Boy Kills 2 Year Old Sister With Gift
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[QUOTE=evilweazel;40487597]Not really, my parents did it when i was only a year older and i never had any accidents. Same goes for a ton of people. If your kid is living in the USA, they should know the basics of gun safety.[/QUOTE] With a piss weak BB gun instead of a [B]REAL FUCKIN' FIREARM!![/B] The worst you can do with a BB gun is aiming at the eyes, and for that to be lethal, it'll have to be a freak accident.
I can understand taking a kid to a range to shoot, but never should any child be allowed to take possession of a rifle at an age like that. I got my .22 from my dad when I was 12 or so but I couldn't keep it in my room or have any ammo with it. I think the pain of losing a sister is going to haunt this kid when he's older, even if he doesn't know what he did right now.
[QUOTE=Van-man;40487613]With a piss weak BB gun instead of a [B]REAL FUCKIN' FIREARM!![/B] The worst you can do with a BB gun is aiming at the eyes, and for that to be lethal, it'll have to be a freak accident.[/QUOTE] Of course he shouldn't "Have his own gun" at that age, but there's no reason not to teach a kid safety with a real one as long as you've taken all the right steps. Doesn't seem like something these parents did, though.
[QUOTE=evilweazel;40487658]Of course he shouldn't "Have his own gun" at that age, but there's no reason not to teach a kid safety with a real one as long as you've taken all the right steps. Doesn't seem like something these parents did, though.[/QUOTE] Wait until the kids are actually able to fully understand the severity of it to use a real firearm in any of such contexts. A rough rule-of-thumb on that is 10 years or older.
welp its america after all. can't live a life without a rifle in your closet.
[QUOTE=ScottyWired;40487135]Sadly, he's more than likely going to blame himself for a very long time even if his parents don't.[/QUOTE] maybe not he's only five he might not remember it or just remember it vaguely he might even totally repress it, at any rate he won't understand fully what he's done for quite some time
[QUOTE=Knoxed;40487749]welp its america after all. can't live a life without a rifle in your closet.[/QUOTE] i can and have for the past 16 years
[QUOTE=XxNemisis116xX;40487543]Fucking insanity "familiarizing him to firearms" At [I]five[/I] years old??? These are the words of a madman[/QUOTE]I myself have nothing against showing a child firearms....just don't be a dumbass about it. I mean shit, my dad let me see his revolver when I was a kid....but it was unloaded, safety on. Showed me just about everything there was to know about it. I mean....I myself don't mind the idea of kids around firearms....but some extreme responsibility is needed by the parents.
I grew up around guns since my dad is an avid hunter and gun collector. He always kept them safely locked away in a place I couldn't get to, and always taught me proper gun safety. He even let me hold one (Unloaded and saftey on) of his hunting rifles when I was very young. Really, it all depends on if the parent(s) are competent enough to have guns around kids but most of them aren't. Which is sad, I wish every parent was as responsible as my father was around me with them all. Should a child own a gun? Well, again, same principle. Competency. A child could own a gun safely under these circumstances: 1. The gun is always locked away in a child-proof safe or lockbox, etc. and COMPLETELY UNLOADED when not in use. In short, away from the child completely. Also ammo should be kept in a separate safe or container. 2. Proper gun safety is taught with a mostly harmless alternative first, like a BB gun. Parents should also keep reminding the child and testing him or her on his knowledge and remembrance of gun safety. 3. When using the gun at a range, the parent in charge should always be right next of the child, coaching him or her on everything they do, keeping hands-on, and a sharp eye out constantly. Of course, mental evaluations should always be made, preferably by a doctor before ever letting a child own or shoot any kind of gun. Age limit should be at least 10, but teaching gun safety at a younger age if you already have guns- or even if not!- is ALWAYS a good idea. If all parents could follow these steps, the world would probably be a little bit of a better place. Unfortunately these things are all assuming if the parent(s) is, you guessed it, competent. But of course, idiots will be idiots...
[QUOTE=XxNemisis116xX;40487543]Fucking insanity "familiarizing him to firearms" At [I]five[/I] years old??? These are the words of a madman[/QUOTE] My dad let me hold a derringer when I was six. It wasn't loaded, the safety was on, and the trigger didn't work anyways.
At least give the kid some sort of info session when getting the gun and not load it
[QUOTE=garychencool;40488421]At least give the kid some sort of info session when getting the gun and not load it[/QUOTE] article stated that the boy was already pretty familiar with the gun and has shot it many times already still though there's so many things wrong with this on so many levels
[QUOTE=ScottyWired;40487135]Sadly, he's more than likely going to blame himself for a very long time even if his parents don't.[/QUOTE] Seeing how stupid these parents are to give him a gun, they'll probably blame him for all anyway.
Honestly, reading that he was familiar with the gun (for a year) and still couldn't tell pointing it at someone was a bad idea is the really scary part.
[QUOTE=Jimmyshimmy;40488680]Honestly, reading that he was familiar with the gun (for a year) and still couldn't tell pointing it at someone was a bad idea is the really scary part.[/QUOTE] Well, he's 5
[QUOTE]Police say a 5-year-old male was playing with a .22 caliber rifle when he accidentally shot his 2-year-old sister.[/QUOTE] With all the effort put into raising a child.. how can you be so stupid? Why would anybody give a child a gun.
[QUOTE=ScottyWired;40487135]Sadly, he's more than likely going to blame himself for a very long time even if his parents don't.[/QUOTE] but guns don't kill people, people kill people...
[QUOTE=Jimmyshimmy;40488680]Honestly, reading that he was familiar with the gun (for a year) and still couldn't tell pointing it at someone was a bad idea is the really scary part.[/QUOTE] being experienced doesn't negate the chances of an accident happening. he shouldn't have been able to use it without proper parental supervision.
I get the whole educating kids about guns, but could you at least wait until hes like 10 to actually give him a gun.
Godddammit, I wouldn't give a five years old a damn spring-powered airsoft pistol, let alone an [b]actual rifle[/b]. Wanna familiarize your kid with guns? That's great, but that's not the way to do it! It's like, I dunno, teaching someone to swim by throwing them into the deep end of the pool, only that in this case they also can drown someone else, not jut themselves. For fuck's sake, I live in a country with little to none gun culture and I know the basic firearm safety rules.
i know they say that .22's are "kid guns" but they're still actually lethal. when people speak about .22's as low-power low-danger weapons they mean in the hands of responsible people and/or with correct supervision. this is not the fault of the firearm, it's the fault of the parents. a 13 year old allowed to handle a .22 in his dad's back yard under his dad's supervision and not allowed to keep the weapon afterwards, that's fine. a responsible 16-year-old with a small .22 pistol for plinking, sure that's fine, but a fucking five year old? when I was five i couldn't run the fucking hot tap without killing the entirety of Dusseldorf.
[QUOTE]He said the gun was kept in a corner and the family didn't realize a shell was left inside it.[/QUOTE] Gun Safety 101: Check the chamber before picking it up, god damnit. And put that shit in a safe not in the corner. I mean, what could possibly go wrong with that setup.
Faith healing, giving children guns... what the fuck, there really is no bottom to stupidity. Why there're so many people in this world who shouldn't be allowed to have kids?
[QUOTE=SubbyV-2;40487258]Is it me or are Americans really crazy about guns?[/QUOTE] Some parts of the US have a massive gun culture, it's pretty awful.
[QUOTE=Aphtonites;40489469]Some parts of the US have a massive gun culture, it's pretty awful.[/QUOTE] one thing I can't get over despite my casual interest in weaponry and warfare in general is that it IS based all around slaughter of one another. that's one thing I have to wonder how the gun culture gets over. you can say it's about hunting all you want but really the first ever guns were designed purely to knock over arseholes in plate-armor, not to blast deer into oblivion. [editline]1st May 2013[/editline] and believe me i'm against gun control, i think that if informing people on why guns need to be handled with fucking care and we stopped portraying guns as magical never-unintentionally-discharging instantkill hitscan lasers in TV, movies, games, and literature, we might have a more informed and safe population, but alas we don't so fuck.
[QUOTE=Roger Waters;40489479]one thing I can't get over despite my casual interest in weaponry and warfare in general is that it IS based all around slaughter of one another. that's one thing I have to wonder how the gun culture gets over. you can say it's about hunting all you want but really the first ever guns were designed purely to knock over arseholes in plate-armor, not to blast deer into oblivion. [editline]1st May 2013[/editline] and believe me i'm against gun control, i think that if informing people on why guns need to be handled with fucking care and we stopped portraying guns as magical never-unintentionally-discharging instantkill hitscan lasers in TV, movies, games, and literature, we might have a more informed and safe population, but alas we don't so fuck.[/QUOTE] Yeah I agree, and I think it's idiot culture that's the problem not gun culture. hell I'd let a 5 year old shoot off a .22, but only at a legal range and I wouldn't leave the gun just sitting in the corner of my fucking house. That's just reckless.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;40489504]Yeah I agree, and I think it's idiot culture that's the problem not gun culture. hell I'd let a 5 year old shoot off a .22, but only at a legal range and I wouldn't leave the gun just sitting in the corner of my fucking house. That's just reckless.[/QUOTE] it's like people who leave watch-batteries on the side then wonder why little timmy is vomiting blood three hours later and why the batteries have disappeared with only a puddle of drool left behind. you can't leave shit lying around your fucking kids.
What the fuck. That's horrible.
[QUOTE=garychencool;40488421]At least give the kid some sort of info session when getting the gun and not load it[/QUOTE] Or not give a 5 year old child a gun in the first place.
[QUOTE=Van-man;40487613]With a piss weak BB gun instead of a [B]REAL FUCKIN' FIREARM!![/B] The worst you can do with a BB gun is aiming at the eyes, and for that to be lethal, it'll have to be a freak accident.[/QUOTE] You guys must be really sheltered. When I was 4 I had my first camping trip with my granpda, where he taught me how to properly use a .22 bolt action rifle. I didn't shoot him, my grandma, or my sister, in fact I didn't shoot anything but a few soda cans. Y'all are blowing one circumstance out of millions waaaay out of proportion.
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