• 5 Year Old Boy Kills 2 Year Old Sister With Gift
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retarded parents you should only let a kid use a gun when they turn 12, and not let them leave your sight don't fucking leave it loaded around your dumbass five year old jesus christ
Jesus Christ this kid got a gun for his fifth birthday? Wonder what he would get on his sixteenth...
Guys, guys just look at where this happened [b] KENTUCKY [/b] Explains it all
[QUOTE=Flash;40493428]Guys, guys just look at where this happened [b] KENTUCKY [/b] Explains it all[/QUOTE] [img]http://i.imgur.com/SEGEoSA.jpg[/img]
Is it really that important to give your kid a gun that you are willing to risk the lives of others on the off chance that he/she might mishandle it
[QUOTE=The golden;40493532]Also anyone who says a 5 year old is capable of responsibly handling a firearm is talking out of their rectum. Maybe they handled one at the age of 5 and that's great for them, but most kids cannot. Seriously. I've done volunteer work with young kids for two years. They're not responsible or mature. That's not an opinion, that is a fact. If they were responsible and mature then they wouldn't be in preschool/grade1 they would be further along. This age area is when they can't spend more than 5 minutes without cussing at each other and throwing shit around and it only gets worse with each passing year until they actually get into young-adulthood. There is a reason why we don't let children operate machinery and cars. They are not mature enough to handle it and will most likely hurt someone or themselves. I remember that article about that mother that gave her son a pistol to bring to school after the Sandy Hook shooting. What was the first thing the kid did when he got to school? Stuck it to the side of a girls head and threatened to kill her, claiming it was a "joke". That is exactly how kids act at that age. It's not abnormal. They just are NOT mature or responsible.[/QUOTE] That's why you don't just hand a kid a gun and tell him to have fun. Like you said they're not responsible enough, but teaching responsibility is all apart of growing up. Teaching responsibility with firearms at a young age is a good thing to do if you intend on raising the child in an environment that contains them. A responsible adult does not let the kid have a gun with him at any whim. A responsible adult uses it as a teaching tool in a controlled environment under supervision.
[QUOTE=Neat!;40493458][img]http://i.imgur.com/SEGEoSA.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Artist's depiction of the failed Kentucky Space Program.
Arrest and charge parents, move child to foster care.
[QUOTE=Truckasaurus1;40493242]Why?[/QUOTE] Because a five year olds haven't developed our perception of reality and therefore can't be trusted to be accountable with a weapon capable of murder regardless of the kid. Ten years old seems like a good age to begin implanting weapon safety if you ask me.
Parent: "Boy, you gone done turneded 5 years ol', you best be exercisen' yer right to bare arms" Kid: "Ok pa" The kid spirals down into a depression that may or may not ruin his life depending on how therapy for him goes. Murica Home of the brave and land of the stupid parents
[QUOTE=SubbyV-2;40487258]Is it me or are Americans really crazy about guns?[/QUOTE] Stupid fucking people won't fucking stop worrying about their fucking guns for one second so we can fix real problems.
[QUOTE=ColdWave;40494773]Stupid fucking people won't fucking stop worrying about their fucking guns for one second so we can fix real problems.[/QUOTE] Like how are we going to get the rest of the oil out of those terrorist countries
[QUOTE=MrBunneh;40487210]you could teach a kid firearm safety with a fucking plastic bb gun :v: still a stupid idea to give a kid one of those but it's still a better idea than a fucking firearm jesus christ[/QUOTE] No, that's actually a bad idea in the long run. All that does is make the child think of firearms as toys. Going shooting with them in a controlled environment and making safety your number 1 priority is the way to go.
Like I said, this all boils down to the parent's inability to supervise the kid and properly handle the gun.
Wow I didn't even get a low-powered BB-gun till i was like 7
[QUOTE=SubbyV-2;40487258]Is it me or are Americans really crazy about guns?[/QUOTE] More of a fetish if anything.
[QUOTE=Thrasher1018;40494845]No, that's actually a bad idea in the long run. All that does is make the child think of firearms as toys. Going shooting with them in a controlled environment and making safety your number 1 priority is the way to go.[/QUOTE] Not really, i got smacked for even holding the barrel of my bb gun up and was told to keep it pointed down. If you treat the bb gun like a real gun it has the same impact. Its fucking stupid period to give a child a gun if they 10 or below. All of you defending giving them a gun that early and go shooting scare me.
[QUOTE=codemaster85;40496467]Not really, i got smacked for even holding the barrel of my bb gun up and was told to keep it pointed down. If you treat the bb gun like a real gun it has the same impact. Its fucking stupid period to give a child a gun if they 10 or below. All of you defending giving them a gun that early and go shooting scare me.[/QUOTE] It is fucking stupid to give such a young kid a gun, but again with some responsibility on the parent's behalf the kid wouldn't have killed his sister.
I'm not opposed to allowing people to own firearms responsibly but jesus christ Why would you arm a fucking five year old? Sorry, but there's absolutely NO reason to do that, no matter how much you may kid yourself into thinking it's a good idea. I didn't even have shoelaces at five years old, let alone something designed to fucking kill someone.
[QUOTE=smileykiller447;40496310]More of a fetish if anything.[/QUOTE] More like a right given to citizens by the Constitution. And for any of you thinking the Constitution or 2nd amendment are invalid for any reason, then go live somewhere else. It's not like the government is keeping you here. Us who respect the social contract our country is built upon would be more than happy to see you go. [editline]1st May 2013[/editline] And as far as you foreigner are concerned, continue pissing and moaning cause your opinion on the matter means absolutely fuck all in the grand scheme of things.
[QUOTE=Skullivan21;40496842]More like a right given to citizens by the Constitution. And for any of you thinking the Constitution or 2nd amendment are invalid for any reason, then go live somewhere else. It's not like the government is keeping you here. Us who respect the social contract our country is built upon would be more than happy to see you go.[/QUOTE] Because if you disagree with a single thing about the way your democratic state is governed you should totally just shut up and leave, yeah. [quote]And as far as you foreigner are concerned, continue pissing and moaning cause your opinion on the matter means absolutely fuck all in the grand scheme of things.[/quote] Oh shit
At least that's my thoughts on the matter... [editline]1st May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=RearAdmiral;40496886]Because if you disagree with a single thing about the way your democratic state is governed you should totally just shut up and leave, yeah.[/QUOTE] All I'm saying is, if you think a European state (Or any other state for that matter) is so far superior to the US, then go there and stop pissing and moaning about it. I'm just sick of hearing people cry about the big bad "Gun Culture" of America without bothering to either understand it or accept that it might not be the issue. Like in this case, I think we all agree that bad parenting is the real problem.
[QUOTE=Steve Harvey;40487245]Why do rifles for youths exist in the first place?[/QUOTE] Because lots of people teach their kids how to hunt, that's perfectly fine but the fact it wasn't in a cabinet UNLOADED and with the child safety on (this is a Crickett gun, made for youths. single shot and has a CS) is just despicable. my condolences to the family though.
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;40488788]but guns don't kill people, people kill people...[/QUOTE] people don't kill people, babies kill people
[QUOTE=Van-man;40491157]No, kids that [I]THAT[/I] unpredictable and impulsive. Their mind is still in early stage of development. In's only when they're in their teens they're capable of that, and at that age, hormones kick in and causes mood swings, so they should never be without supervision when handling a firearm.[/QUOTE] I remember I was 16 and went to a range. My hormones kicked in so I shot everyone. Good point.
Fun Fact: Gift is German for poison, so this title works in multiple ways.
[QUOTE=endorphinsam;40487121]are you serioussssssssssssssss? WHY WOULD YOU EVER IN THE RIGHT STATE OF MIND GIVE YOUR CHILD A GUN! When he's five! A LOADED ONE![/QUOTE] [t]http://www.daveandthomas.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/reno-911-junior.jpg[/t][t]http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Business/images-3/white-trash-family.jpg[/t][img]http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1txigNY6K1rnua94o1_500.gif[/img] Who wouldn't give their five year old a loaded rifle? Perfectly reasonable.
I can understand a low power BB gun at 5, but a real rifle? I didn't get to even touch a real gun until i was 8, even then, it was another 3 years before i actually owned one(in the sense of own, i mean it was mine, a gift from my grandmother).
[QUOTE=JgcxCub;40487141]Why the [i]fuck[/i] would you give a 5 year old an actual rifle[/QUOTE] I'm not sure if it's an actual rifle. 22 caliber handguns are often used as target pistols, and as such are called "long rifles". For example, a Ruger Mark 2 or 3 is often called a long rifle, even though it looks like this: [img]http://www.shootersforum.com/attachments/rimfire-handguns/7015d1204989659-questions-concerning-22-ruger-mark-iii-rugerhunterflutedbull.jpg[/img] Though if it were a ruger, the parent would have had to unlock the gun for the child because rugers are designed for the explicit purpose of being almost impossible for an idiot to accidentally hurt themselves with (the safety mechanism is not simply a switch, it's a process of pulling the slide back and other things at the same time. I havent gone shooting in a while so I don't remember). 22 Long rifles are often given to kids as their first guns (it was my first gun) because they're: 1. a low calibre so it offers less kickback for a young person. 2. meant almost explicitly for target shooting. and 3. in the case of a gun like a ruger, one of the safest guns you can buy. Personally, I don't think anybody under the age of 13 should be handling a gun at all, let alone own one. edit: just read one of the articles said it was a crickett rifle. not a long-rifle like I said, but still a "my first gun" rifle.
the scariest thing imo is that the gun used was one from a line of guns specifically designed for kids
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