• David Cameron planning to send a copy of the King James Bible to every UK school
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I remember when they had a person handing bibles around, in my last year of school. Still got mine somewhere, but there were plenty of torn bible pages all over the place that day. RE classes focused more on Christianity than anything else, although we learned about Islam as well. I find religion interesting, but I still think its a waste of money to do this.
[QUOTE=Terminutter;33444983]We only learned Christianity in it at my school :v: Finished test in a third of the time, and got half an A* at GCSE bullshit spewing.[/QUOTE] I didn't have to do R.E at a GCSE level thankfully, but I was supposed to take a PSD course, did sod all, all year, and dropped the course a week before my shit had to be handed in. No college recognises it as a qualification anyway.
[QUOTE=Jasun;33443958]Religious Studies is actually a pretty good class, it promotes tolerance of other religions and you get a GCSE at the end of it.[/QUOTE] All we did in RE was watch films. Those were the days.
We had christianity sort of forced on us in primary school (Lords praryer and hymmns every day, despite it being public) Later it was explained to us that you didn't have to join in if you didn't want to, but still when I think back it probably effected loads of people. RE in secondary school sucked major hairy ass. It was by the stereotypical "hippie" teacher who tried to teach us about love and equality, but just came off as pitying all the brown people. There are much more important things to be putting funding towards. Plus, after being out here in the middle east 99% of the stuff we were taught about islam is scaremongering bullshit.
I thought David Cameron was trying to cut down on spending?
What an idiot. There's a reason Britain is predominantly non-religious now. None of us care about religion.
[QUOTE=Drsalvador;33442327][h2] Religion and state should be divided by a solid brick wall, You no-good posh toff, Really, I cannot comprehend you sometimes, Goddamnit.[/h2] [sp]I'm afraid to say more incase a black van appears and drags me off[/sp][/QUOTE] don't worry that's just mine... [sp]:smug[/sp]
[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;33444941]No it's the version of the Bible that brought the world over 200 phrases and idioms. But, whatever, religion is like, a total bummer man. My parents take me to church every Sunday and I hate it so much - fuck religion, what has it ever done for anyone? I called the priest a fucking cuntfuck paedophile last week, that told him.[/QUOTE] are you physically incapable of making decent posts or what
[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;33444941]No it's the version of the Bible that brought the world over 200 phrases and idioms. But, whatever, religion is like, a total bummer man. My parents take me to church every Sunday and I hate it so much - fuck religion, what has it ever done for anyone? I called the priest a fucking cuntfuck paedophile last week, that told him.[/QUOTE] Congrats?
My Religious Studies class was actually interesting and informative, probably helped by having a good teacher though. We'd have a couple of lessons explaining an issue (abortion, euthanasia etc.) and debating it, and then a couple more where we'd go through the different Christian and Muslim beliefs on the issue (talking about orthodox and moderates of each). Ours was compulsory, but we got a full GCSE from it rather than half. Maybe it was a different course to what a lot of others are talking about.
"Recent statistics show the uptake of religion in the UK is declining, sir" "Hmm...what resources do we have available?" "Well, we're about to get a shit load of money from poor Uni students next year?" ..... "Send all schools a shed load of bibles" "But sir wouldn't something based on fact and science be of more use to help education?" "Do it, Gregory. I'm already putting people off getting a good education by raising the max price of University fees, they wouldn't want to go to University even if they could get in after spending all money on bibles instead of text books"
well christianity makes up a good part of english culture, so this is a good thing and i can support it. I see no downside.
Religious Education isn't a bad lesson, it teaches the differences between religions and you learn to respect them. Most RE departments have several Bibles Cameron, what are you doing?
Good to see people still read the National Geographic.
Another fucking waste of money
It's unfortunate he's not sending them to colleges too, I could do with some rolling papers.
[QUOTE=AK'z;33445231]It's probably the only nation that "doesn't give a crap about what you believe".[/QUOTE] "only nation"? I hate to break this to you, but I think Scandinavia has you beat. [QUOTE=Man Without Hat;33445667]What an idiot. There's a reason Britain is predominantly non-religious now. None of us care about religion.[/QUOTE] None of you? I very much doubt that. Sure there's a majority of people as 'unaffiliated' or 'not religious', but it's hardly "no one" that cares.
[QUOTE=Trumple;33447844]"Recent statistics show the uptake of religion in the UK is declining, sir" "Hmm...what resources do we have available?" "Well, we're about to get a shit load of money from poor Uni students next year?" ..... "Send all schools a shed load of bibles" "But sir wouldn't something based on fact and science be of more use to help education?" "Do it, Gregory. I'm already putting people off getting a good education by raising the max price of University fees, they wouldn't want to go to University even if they could get in after spending all money on bibles instead of text books"[/QUOTE] 1. The government still spends more money on each university place than the student does. 2. School funds are decided by LEAs, not Westminster.
my old school handed out bibles once. Hardly any of us gave two fucks about it and the majority were burnt, not through 'fuck religion' stance. We just didn't want a bible.
[QUOTE]Mr Gove is quoted as saying that the King James Bible was the most important book written in the English language. “It‘s a thing of beauty, and it‘s also an incredibly important historical artefact. It has helped shape and define the English language and is one of the keystones of our shared culture. And it is a work that has had international significance."[/QUOTE] Even more important than The Bard, Shakespeare himself? I'd rather read Hamlet any day.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;33450298]Even more important than The Bard, Shakespeare himself? I'd rather read Hamlet any day.[/QUOTE] The KJV has contributed more to the English language than Shakespeare.
Not to mention the King James Bible is a translation of a Hebrew/Latin book, so therefore isn't really an original English work. At least Shakespeare is purely English.
Also, it's Michael Gove sending these out, not Cameron, and he's including a foreword by himself. [editline]26th November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;33450354]Not to mention the King James Bible is a translation of a Hebrew/Latin book, so therefore isn't really an original English work. At least Shakespeare is purely English.[/QUOTE] Most of Shakespeare's work is based on other works, either contemporary or ancient. Romeo and Juliet was originally an Italian story (hence the setting) and was popular before his adaptation. [editline]26th November 2011[/editline] It's pretty much universally accepted that the Bible has had a massive influence on the English language, whether you like it or not.
[QUOTE]"will he also please ensure that a copy of On the Origin of Species is sent out on Darwin Day."[/QUOTE] But the origin of species should already be scent to schools. Its the basics of biology and an actual proven fact.
[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;33450356]It's pretty much universally accepted that the Bible has had a massive influence on the English language, whether you like it or not.[/QUOTE] Accepted as cultural history? Agreed. This stunt? Pointless.
[QUOTE=Man Without Hat;33445667]What an idiot. There's a reason Britain is predominantly non-religious now. None of us care about religion.[/QUOTE] I know of only 1 person in my age group that's religious.
[QUOTE=gazzy_GUI;33450676]I know of only 1 person in my age group that's religious.[/QUOTE] Nope. But atheism is the norm these days, especially on the internet.
Sounds like a waste of money in times money should be saved.
[QUOTE=Terminutter;33444983]We only learned Christianity in it at my school :v: Finished test in a third of the time, and got half an A* at GCSE bullshit spewing.[/QUOTE] We learnt about Islam and Christianity, but in the exam you only needed to know about one religion. Finished the test in about 15 minutes and got an A for basically writing "Most Muslims do not approve of homosexuality because Islam tells them so".
Sorry but this isn't sensationalist headlines, in the fuckin' slightest. Cameron makes much bigger decisions on a daily basis and some bibles are sensationalist? Piss off :rolleyes:
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